Toyo vs BFG (1 Viewer)

[crackdpot]

I've got Toyo M55's on my 60 and was actually commenting to someone today how much I like the feel and performance. As I
forsee New rubber in the not-too-distant future, I, too was looking into BFG's.........Thanks for getting alot of my questions answered b4 I asked.

Have the original stock rims. They're getting a little pitted, tho.
Am considering having them blasted and powder coated.

Does anyone know whether Toyo produces a similar tire for the same rim but a little taller for an inch or two of added clearance?

 

[5280Hawk]

I just got my BFG AT's rotated on my Tacoma, for the third time @ (12,000).

The guy said there is no noticeable wear.

 

[lowtideride]

I have heard a few stories of toyo's side walls exploding while on the higway on new tires. Also heard they are not so hot offroad. I would go with the BFG if it were me. But thats my 1.5 cents.

 

[Ducks]

I have 80k miles on my toyos and still decent tread. Never had a problem on-road.

 

[Ducks]

the sidewall is not the strongest. It is actually my only concern with mine..

It is good, but not the best..

What radial tire has stronger sidewalls?

 

[Brock]

I love the BFG MT...father has AT on all his vehicles. I went with Nitto Terra Grapplers on my truck the last time and love them as well....great highway performance and have done everything I asked offroad and it is a huge 2500HD 4x4 Cummins...so the front end is easy to stick with all the weight up there.

I would buy either BFG MT or the Nitto tires again for a daily driver...if trail only would likely to the Pro Comp or Mickey Thompsons.....

 

[Mace]

What radial tire has stronger sidewalls?

any radial swamper, the Krawler, maxxis, goodyear MTR.. Want me to continue??

 

[CruzerCrazy]

I've got Toyo M55's on my 60 and was actually commenting to someone today how much I like the feel and performance. As I
forsee New rubber in the not-too-distant future, I, too was looking into BFG's.........Thanks for getting alot of my questions answered b4 I asked.

Have the original stock rims. They're getting a little pitted, tho.
Am considering having them blasted and powder coated.

Does anyone know whether Toyo produces a similar tire for the same rim but a little taller for an inch or two of added clearance?

What size do you have now?

 

[justin85-60]

My mom and brother each have the Toyo Open Country A/T on their heeps. They are very comfortable and quiet. Seem to wear pretty well in the GC, and I imagine the LC would be about the same or at least close to the mileage. I personally don't like the traction they offer. I have had many problems in the past with them in the snow. For about the same amount of money (actually I think they are less) you can get the BFG AT. I paid 550 to my door and then 75 to mount them 33x10.50s.
Now the Toyo MT is an awesome but expensive tire IMO. Have these on my work truck, no complaints.

 

[Ducks]

any radial swamper, the Krawler, maxxis, goodyear MTR.. Want me to continue??

BFG A/T – 3-ply
Radial Swamper – 2-ply
Goodyear MTR – 3-ply
Toyo Open Country – 2-ply

I guess it just becomes a matter of opinion. Some "experts" say BFG has the strongest sidewalls for a radial.

 

[CruzerCrazy]

BFG A/T – 3-ply
Radial Swamper – 2-ply
Goodyear MTR – 3-ply
Toyo Open Country – 2-ply

I guess it just becomes a matter of opinion. Some "experts" say BFG has the strongest sidewalls for a radial.

I guess it all gets down to the specs. Toyo claims 3ply on their spec sheet.

Toyo OC M/T

All-Around Traction • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Tread Block Stabilizers
•with Hook-Shaped Blocks • Deep Siping in the Tread Blocks
•Scalloped Shoulder Blocks • Open Shoulder Design
Styling • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Black Outline Serrated Lettering
•Over-the-Shoulder Tread • Rim Protector in Lower Sidewall
•Open Shoulder Design
On-/Off-Road Handling • T-ModeTMTechnology • Two Spiral Wound Nylon Cap Plies
•High Turn-Up, 3-Ply Casing • High Bead Filler
•Two Wide Steel Belts
Traction Performance • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Tread Block Stabilizers
•Over-The-Shoulder Tread • Open, Scalloped Shoulder Blocks
•Cap/Base Construction •Deep Siping in the Tread Blocks
Stable Ride •T-ModeTMTechnology •Tread Elements Shaped and
•Computer-Optimized Tread Design •Staggered for Reduced Noise
•Advanced Production Technology • 3-Ply Polyester Casing
•for High Levels of Uniformity •Single Strand, Jointless Bead
Wire Construction
Long Life • High Turn-Up, 3-Ply Polyester Casing • Cap/Base Construction
•Two Spiral Wound Nylon Cap Plies • Abrasion Resistant Sidewall Compound
•Two Wide Steel Belts

 

[CruzerCrazy]

To be clear on this post. I have both BFG A/Ts and the Toyo OC M/Ts on my rigs. So far I have really liked the Toyo's because of the aggressive tread and super smooth ride. When I get my sliders on I will test out the sidewall strength this spring in Moab!

 

[Ducks]

It's fun to argue specs but you also need real-world input. I don't blindly follow experts advice. You have to take into account what terrain they are most experienced in. But I won't spend the amount of time that they do in the field since it is their job. Just trying to point out that some people that spend a lot of time in the field really like the sidewall strength of the BFG.

I guess it all gets down to the specs. Toyo claims 3ply on their spec sheet.

Toyo OC M/T

All-Around Traction • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Tread Block Stabilizers
•with Hook-Shaped Blocks • Deep Siping in the Tread Blocks
•Scalloped Shoulder Blocks • Open Shoulder Design
Styling • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Black Outline Serrated Lettering
•Over-the-Shoulder Tread • Rim Protector in Lower Sidewall
•Open Shoulder Design
On-/Off-Road Handling • T-ModeTMTechnology • Two Spiral Wound Nylon Cap Plies
•High Turn-Up, 3-Ply Casing • High Bead Filler
•Two Wide Steel Belts
Traction Performance • Aggressive, Attack Tread DesignTM •Tread Block Stabilizers
•Over-The-Shoulder Tread • Open, Scalloped Shoulder Blocks
•Cap/Base Construction •Deep Siping in the Tread Blocks
Stable Ride •T-ModeTMTechnology •Tread Elements Shaped and
•Computer-Optimized Tread Design •Staggered for Reduced Noise
•Advanced Production Technology • 3-Ply Polyester Casing
•for High Levels of Uniformity •Single Strand, Jointless Bead
Wire Construction
Long Life • High Turn-Up, 3-Ply Polyester Casing • Cap/Base Construction
•Two Spiral Wound Nylon Cap Plies • Abrasion Resistant Sidewall Compound
•Two Wide Steel Belts

 

[Zack1978]

The BFG's are the best tire hands down IMHO! The last set of BFG AT's on my 4wd Pathfinder had 75,000 miles on them are they were still decent (31x10.5x15). I would never buy another truck tire.

Zack

 

[Ducks]

Which ply rating is best for determining sidewall strength? Radial swampers are 6-ply but only 2-ply for sidewall strength.

 

[CruzerCrazy]

It's fun to argue specs but you also need real-world input. I don't blindly follow experts advice. You have to take into account what terrain they are most experienced in. But I won't spend the amount of time that they do in the field since it is their job. Just trying to point out that some people that spend a lot of time in the field really like the sidewall strength of the BFG.

Ducks,

Wasn't criticizing your data just was not sure about all the jargon in Toyo's lit. Not my field. And as I said on my follow up post. I have both sets on my rigs and I have always been happy with my BFGs. Just wanted to point out the merits of the Toyos. I am always willing to try something new and time will tell.

There is only one tire company I would not recommend. I went through 4 sets of the same tire from General Tire on my 4 Runner. Granted they replaced all 4 sets. But they all failed in the exact same way and always left me stranded on gold medal streams hundreds of miles away from home and help. Ticked me off so much I went on a campaign My own fault for giving them 3 chances. At one point one VP said her tires weren't rated for going down gravel or dirt rodes at 60 mph. ???? Counter? "Well lady there is only one Dawn or Dusk when it comes to fishing and if your tires can't get me there... Than you are fired!"

 

[Mace]

Which ply rating is best for determining sidewall strength? Radial swampers are 6-ply but only 2-ply for sidewall strength.

It is not that easy...

Like you said. the specs do not always tell the true tale of how a tire will hold up.


BTW, I just bought a set of BFG AT's for Bob. They are one of my favorite tires. And the sidewalls are much better than other tires.

They are not the absolute best for bouncing off rocks.

 

[CruzerCrazy]

It is not that easy...

Like you said. the specs do not always tell the true tale of how a tire will hold up.


BTW, I just bought a set of BFG AT's for Bob. They are one of my favorite tires. And the sidewalls are much better than other tires.

They are not the absolute best for bouncing off rocks.

Why is it that every time you post I always have more questions?

What do you mean? Better for crawling, driving or what? What I really would like to know "Has anyone ever popped a sidewall?"

I have on a Yukon XL Denali. Dumb a** move and bad driving. Trying to get to 8500 ft for grouse hunting. Wrong truck... Bad time.

 

[Mace]

Any tire is gonna be a compromise in some way or another.
I have popped a BFG sidewall, a couple of them actually.

My tow rig and the wife's Yukon I am running Nitto Terra Grapplers and am very happy with them. They are not lasting as long as the BFG AT's that I had on the same tow rig tho. The flip side is the sidewalls do not lean as much so they corner better and it really seems to tow "better" with them.


What do you want for a tire? you going to play in the mud much?
Sharp rocks?
noisy tires bother you?

There are a bunch of things to consider.


Also, an alteration in rim sizes (same OD of tire) can have a dramatice effect on the sidewall strength.

 

[me_tu05]

Cooper STT's and ST's are good and around the same price. I have the STT's on my taco and they ride really sooth and quiet. Offroad they have done very well for me so far, still have to try the mud and sand, but stick like glue to the rocks. They have a 3 ply sidewall and from the reveiws i have read they are stronger than BFGs. I'll be getting a set for the 62 when my BFG AT's wear out.