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Towing questions?

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by NCxj, Mar 9, 2004.

  1. NCxj

    NCxj

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    I'm looking at a 94 FZJ80 for a DD/tow rig. I have searched and got alot of different feedback and no truely clear answers IMHO.

    I plan to tow maybe 4-8 times a yr. My rig will weigh somewhere in the neighborhood of 4k. With a towing weight of about 5500lbs or so. Will I have alot of problems period or will it do the job?

    I will have airbags, trailer brakes, etc. I do know I won't be flying up any mtns or passing anyone. No big deal really.

    I'm trying to find as much feedback as I can get.
     
  2. Beowulf

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    Will,

    We have several members with extensive towing experience so I won't volunteer anything other than your rig will weigh considerable more than 4k. Even a stock FZJ80 weighs a lot more than that. ( > 6k )

    -B-
     
  3. NCxj

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    My XJ won't weight too much over 4k. I know the 80 does lol. Maybe I didn't explain something to well.
     
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    landtank SILVER Star

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    XJ, you'll be towing it's dead carkass more than 4 times a year :flipoff2:. Actually I tow a camping trailer that when loaded is about that weight. Go camping up in the White mountains all summer. Does ok, it is no speedster but I'm not in a race either.
     
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    This is confusing...what difference does it make that your XJ is 4K when you say you'll be towing with the 80???

    -B- is right: a stock 80 is much more like 6000lbs alone. But from your description, it sounds like you'll be towing a trailer of 1500lbs. You should have no problems towing that.
     
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    >> Maybe I didn't explain something to well. <<

    That's an understatement. I haven't got a clue what you're trying to do.

    -B-
     
  7. Brentbba

    Brentbba Former Golfer SILVER Star

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    NCxj,

    Ok - I'll clear things up for you. I also have a very stock '94. She weighs in at 5200lbs (yes, I weighed her when I weighed the trailer to see if I met weight requirements to need brakes on the trailer). I regularly tow a trailer with brakes that weighs in at 3500lbs without a problem. As you state, no speed demon up steeper grades, etc., but why would you want to? You say you have air bags - GOOD. The LC sags appreciably. I use a weight distribution hitch to balance things out even tho Mr. Yota does not 'recommend' the use of one. I have a Tekonsha Prodigy brake controller and am very happy with it's performance.

    Hope that helps clear up any questions you might have.
     
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    [glow=black,2,2]Will ,

    Hows life in the Triad ? Have you made a trail rig of your XJ that you want to tow to events with the 80 ? If so ... :slap: ... the guys here might smack ya , and ask why you don't just sell off the heep and build up the 80 :p

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  9. NCxj

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    Let me try to clear things up. I wanna use the 80 to tow the XJ (4k lbs) on a trailer (1500lbs). Roughly somewhere btween 5500-6k lbs.

    Brentbba - thanks for the help.
     
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    Will,
    you can expect us not to give you some greif on towing an trail xj wiht an 80 but heh thats just the way it is. towing 5-6k I think will be at the edge of the envelope. I think yomama tows a boat that is that heavy but he is turboed so not the fairest comparison. If you are not planning on really wheeling too much the 100 series might not be a bad way to go as well.
    Dave
     
  11. cruiserdan

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    The maximum towing capacity for the 80 series is 5000 lbs trailer/500 lbs tongue.

    That being said, there are those that have towed more than that. Do so at your own risk.
     
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    As I stated earlier, you can plan on towing that XJ more than 4 times a year :flipoff2:
     
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    NCxj,

    As Cruiserdan indicated that's above the recommended towing weight. My guess is if that's a *standard* 16-18 ft. double axle steel trailer it weighs more than 1500lbs too, probably figure closer to 2,000 lbs.

    I tow quite a bit. I've towed just over 4,000 lbs before I put the blower on, and my cruiser handled it, but it wasn't happy about it. I can't imagine what it would have been like adding another 2,000 lbs to the load. The problems were evenly split between a lack of motor and a lack of a heavier suspension.

    Now that I have a blower and beefed up suspension the truck pulls very well, but I still try to keep the load to 4,500 lbs max. I would not consider towing 6,000 ish lbs with my truck unless it was a very short distance. But that's just me.

    Good Luck,
    Mike
     
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    Thanks for the advice, and info. :beer:
     
  15. e9999

    e9999 You want to do what...? Moderator

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    sooo, let me get this straight:
    you plan on towing the Heep cuz it will break down a lot, and towing it with the 80 cuz you want to be sure to come back?
    :D
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    Will,

    We tow a 6000lb boat with our stock 80 with rear airbags. I've logged around 14,500 miles including a cross country tow with no problems. The 80 is rated to tow 7700lbs everywhere but litigation-happy USA. Just be sure the tranny's been properly serviced, you have good heavy tow oriented tires (no wobbly muds or A/Ts) and your cooling system is in order. Having said that, I'd roll that trailer/heep across a scale as I suspect you're going to find the trailer is a bit heavier than 1500lbs as noted above.

    Doug
     
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    [quote author=IdahoDoug link=board=2;threadid=12855;start=msg119769#msg119769 date=1079062736]
    Will,

    The 80 is rated to tow 7700lbs everywhere but litigation-happy USA.

    Doug
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    Interesting, I never heard that before. Maybe that explains why my Kaymar rear bumper is rated for towing 7700lbs. I too pull a big :eek: boat. I would be willing to bet when the boat is full of gear and fluids that it is closer to 7000lbs with trailer 8) I feel better now... What does C-Dan have to say about Doug's comment?

    Yomama
     
  19. cruiserdan

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    I have not seen the international Toyota publication that states that information. Personally I prefer that the tow vehicle weighs more than the trailer. Certainly this is not the case with tractor-trailers but that is their only job.
     
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    I was just in New Zealand for a bit, and was amazed at the size of boats, cattle trailers, etc everyone was pulling with their 80s. Many had to be well over 6000 lbs.
    Sean