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I typically do my own service, having littles changes the amount of time I have to do more in depth maintenance. For the most part the dealership has been fine for maintenance only…
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Did they grease your driveshaft?So…after all the service everything has been great, tsb has been a game changer and even saw an uptick in mpg. However, now when I reverse I get a slight shudder when reversing uphill…never had it before. Basically when I start to reverse uphill with little throttle it shudders and doesn’t move, little more throttle and shuddering stops and it reverses fine. On level ground, no issue at all.
One more thing - It's not that difficult to drop the pan/change the filter/gasket and refill. I would strongly urge you to buy a code reader in which you can read transmission fluid temps; I bought a $150 Foxwell NT530 with Toyota-based software. Each of their scanners comes with one manufacturer-based software. You can buy additional manufacturers for about $7-80 each. I bought Honda's because I also have a CR-V that my daughter drives...
I drive up on 4 Rhino ramps on a level surface. Take all the 10mm bolts loose and take all but 4 out, after draining the pan with the drain bolt. Then remove the last four, carefully tipping the pan over to finish draining. There's about a pint+ of fluid left in the pan after draining it with the drain bolt. Take the filter loose with the two 10mm bolts, there will be almost another pint of fluid come out here. Wipe everything down with paper towels.
I then clean the pan and magnets, put some gasket tack on, put the gasket on, install a new filter, then the pan, drain bolts, put the paper clip in the thermostat and put about 5.5 quarts of fluid in. I hook the scanner up, push the start button twice without foot on the brake to let the scanner have time to run through all it's processes. This can take several minutes. I will crank it up once I get to the trans temp screen and let it run for 2-3 minutes, then shut it off and go get a drink/snack and let the fluid settle/cool down a bit.
Then I crank it back up, wait til it hits 113°F, then crawl under, take the check drain bolt out and let it drain until it slows to a fine stream, then close it up. Pull the paper clip out of the thermostat and then test drive.
I've done this several times between my LX570, Tundra and RX350.
I do things myself. See post #17. I just wanted to find out what they charged to do it. I have flushed my AHC, radiator, power steering, did the fluid exchange on the transmission, changed the fluid on all diff's and changed oil multiple times. All I have left to do maintenance wise really is the brakes which I have DBA rotors and hawk pads along with SS lines sitting in my garage. Although the radiator hasn't leaked yet.I've heard similar at a HIGHLY respected, high-traffic Toy/Lex independent shop in the Atlanta area about servicing the AHC system. "We don't do it. We recommend not touching it and when it goes out, just take it out and put in standard Struts."
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So I do all this stuff myself. I research and educate myself and buy the necessary tools, find the dealers who have good online parts pricing, both local and afar, and buy the OEM parts and try to do everything myself.
It is ridiculously less expeRerensive, I maintain my vehicles better than any shop, be it a dealer or independent, and hopefully I reap the rewards of a very long life of the vehicle.
I've heard similar at a HIGHLY respected, high-traffic Toy/Lex independent shop in the Atlanta area about servicing the AHC system. "We don't do it. We recommend not touching it and when it goes out, just take it out and put in standard Struts."
YHGTBSM....
So I do all this stuff myself. I research and educate myself and buy the necessary tools, find the dealers who have good online parts pricing, both local and afar, and buy the OEM parts and try to do everything myself.
It is ridiculously less expensive, I maintain my vehicles better than any shop, be it a dealer or independent, and hopefully I reap the rewards of a very long life of the vehicle.
No idea what terrain you'll be on, but assuming it isn't an offroad access to a remote cabin, adding decent tires will probably get you 99% of the way. As far as I'm concerned, the rest is for offroad use.I do things myself. See post #17. I just wanted to find out what they charged to do it. I have flushed my AHC, radiator, power steering, did the fluid exchange on the transmission, changed the fluid on all diff's and changed oil multiple times. All I have left to do maintenance wise really is the brakes which I have DBA rotors and hawk pads along with SS lines sitting in my garage. Although the radiator hasn't leaked yet.
Deciding on what to do first as far as tires, wheels, skids, armor, front bumper, etc. Probably the tires/wheels along with a sensor lift first, then skids/armor and bumper. I have time though. In Florida now, but will be eventually moving to Tennessee smack dab between Nashville an Knoxville out in the boonies on 50 acres where these mods might be a little more useful/necessary.
Yea...it's just 10 minutes of gravel road and at most a tiny creek crossing. I just think that once I am there, I will be more likely to go on some offroad adventures since I am in the area. I like to be prepared.No idea what terrain you'll be on, but assuming it isn't an offroad access to a remote cabin, adding decent tires will probably get you 99% of the way. As far as I'm concerned, the rest is for offroad use.
Ok. My initial thought was that maybe they over-greased the driveshaft and the shuddering is the vehicle attempting to compress the grease. If they didn’t grease it could be the driveshaft binding a bit as it’s not slipping in and out like it should. I’m not an expert and I haven’t personally experienced this though, but given it’s only happening in reverse it makes me think something is binding up slightly when shifting directions.Not to my knowledge. They did the diff x3, trans fluid exchange, oil change, coolant exchange and tsb
He did say reverse uphill. Could it be trans fluid level, since the vehicle trans fluid is at an angle in the pan, so the fluid pick up point has now changed in reference due to angle of hill?Ok. My initial thought was that maybe they over-greased the driveshaft and the shuddering is the vehicle attempting to compress the grease. If they didn’t grease it could be the driveshaft binding a bit as it’s not slipping in and out like it should. I’m not an expert and I haven’t personally experienced this though, but given it’s only happening in reverse it makes me think something is binding up slightly when shifting directions.
Sorry I’ve been off the grid, I haven’t had time to get the truck back over to the dealer. Also if what a fluid issue due to angle wouldn’t it also happen moving forward as well? Such a weird situation. No issue driving down the rode, I monitor trans temp with a scan gauge and it’s normal range.He did say reverse uphill. Could it be trans fluid level, since the vehicle trans fluid is at an angle in the pan, so the fluid pick up point has now changed in reference due to angle of hill?
Not really, because going forward would be going downhill.Sorry I’ve been off the grid, I haven’t had time to get the truck back over to the dealer. Also if what a fluid issue due to angle wouldn’t it also happen moving forward as well? Such a weird situation. No issue driving down the rode, I monitor trans temp with a scan gauge and it’s normal range.
As to #2 - Officially the system holds 12.6 quarts. The dealer by me charges for 12 quarts when doing a fluid exchange. Maybe I'm getting 0.6 free quarts, or maybe they're not quite swapping all the fluid.
Also officially the FSM says just doing a pan drain/fill should be 2.2 quarts. I'm not going to dispute that you may end up draining more off as most people have found they end up draining somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4 quarts out as there are several factors which will affect the precise amount of fluid drained including fluid temperature (warm fluid will drain better and also has more volume than cold fluid, if you've added a lift and changed the rake of your vehicle the pan may no longer be perfectly level, etc).
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BTW the FSM has instructions on how to drain the system and fill it when you've replaced the pan, valve body, or TC, all of which involve filling the pan, shifting through the gears for 30 seconds, then shutting off and adding more fluid if it's not coming out the overflow plug. I cannot find any maintenance procedure in the Toyota FSM which says to only drain and refill the pan when doing the above maintenance.
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I am about to service the fluid in the transmission and am debating between several drain and fills aligning with the next 3 or so oil changes, or do a full exchange once and not touch it for several years (I am at 85k now).
I do not want to remove the pan. Does this procedure apply to US spec 200 series (I assume the transmission is the same AB60)?
I could interpret that as step (b) is to fill to the top of the overflow tube, then step (d) is add an additional 2.2qt. Am I reading that incorrectly? So possibly removing and draining the pan will in fact be closer to 5.5qts as @Hillbilly Deluxe mentioned?
I am about to service the fluid in the transmission and am debating between several drain and fills aligning with the next 3 or so oil changes, or do a full exchange once and not touch it for several years (I am at 85k now).
I do not want to remove the pan. Does this procedure apply to US spec 200 series (I assume the transmission is the same AB60)?
I could interpret that as step (b) is to fill to the top of the overflow tube, then step (d) is add an additional 2.2qt. Am I reading that incorrectly? So possibly removing and draining the pan will in fact be closer to 5.5qts as @Hillbilly Deluxe mentioned?
I would take those 2 corner exposed bolts out and put some anti-seize on them and reinstall if your mechanic didn't do that already.Dropped my pan, 2 bolts broke, mechanic replaced all the bolts with new ones, no big deal replaced the screen all is great I an actually seeing an improvement in gas mileage. All other fluids changed in the drive
line well.