TireRack AT tire comparison (1 Viewer)

[Madtiger]

@RT Cruiser

Michelin Defender LTX will likely outlast most tire, bar none (including yours). I would not call them soft in that aspect. I don’t know if i would trust that DT salesman 100%.

FYI, since you got the STOCK sized Geolander P-metric, your tire pressure (cold) should be same as factory tires. ( @gaijin )

 

[Madtiger]

I spoke with my local Discount Tire today. I have the P-metric. The counter agent told me the difference in this tire between the P and LT is the LT is designed to handle more weight but the tread is the same.

Tread of LT is much deeper…13/32 vs. 17-18/32. The construction is also more stout as you said.

 

[thammer62]

Yea pretty much nothing that discount tire guy told you was accurate. I’d switch stores or at minimum switch advisors at that location.

 

[Dunbar]

I can't imagine giving any credence to an manager or employee of Discount or any other tire seller on what to put on my vehicle.

 

[RT Cruiser]

Tread of LT is much deeper…13/32 vs. 17-18/32. The construction is also more stout as you said.

Very good to know! Maybe the guy meant there was no difference in the tread design? I'll note this for my next purchase.

 

[gaijin]

@RT Cruiser

Michelin Defender LTX will likely outlast most tire, bar none (including yours). I would not call them soft in that aspect. I don’t know if i would trust that DT salesman 100%.

FYI, since you got the STOCK sized Geolander P-metric, your tire pressure (cold) should be same as factory tires. ( @gaijin )

Since you invited me in...

First, there are no P-Metric sizes for 18" Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 tires.

The tire @RT Cruiser apparently has is the Standard Load ISO-Metric tire with a Load Index of 116: 285/60R18 116H SL

The RCTIP for those ISO-Metric 285/60R18 116H SL tires on a LC200 is (indeed) 33psi F/R.

And no, don't trust anything DT counter guy tells you.

HTH

 

[RT Cruiser]

@RT Cruiser

Michelin Defender LTX will likely outlast most tire, bar none (including yours). I would not call them soft in that aspect. I don’t know if i would trust that DT salesman 100%.

FYI, since you got the STOCK sized Geolander P-metric, your tire pressure (cold) should be same as factory tires. ( @gaijin )

Well, we can respectively disagree. Yeah, my experience doesn't constitute a real study. But after several sets of Michelins on 3 different vehicles, my experience is it is a soft tire and the tread wears faster than advertised. We've taken great care of the one's on my wife's CRV, and they have worn quickly. Anyone can choose whatever tire they want and form whatever opinion about it.

 

[AnyMal]

285/60 R18 SL. Between 38-43 psi on the highway, 25-30 psi on the trail. Rotations every 3,500-5,000 miles. They've handled well when the rig was fully loaded and not loaded.

Thats got a max of 51PSI. How do they feel at those pressures?

I see the 285/70/17 SL is also rated for max 51 PSI.
This is the same 117T Load ID and speed as my Toyo A/T3 that maxes out at 44 PSI which I haven't been able to get the quite the right comfort out of.
There is obviously more rubber on those but at least size is somewhat comparable.

Once i get these G015 on my sisters GX (275/60/18) I will report back here as well as there are no Toyos in this size.

 

[RT Cruiser]

I can't imagine giving any credence to an manager or employee of Discount or any other tire seller on what to put on my vehicle.

Unless I missed it, looks like no one here as done this.

As kindly as I can say this, some of you need to bring it down a notch. It hurts the helpful dynamic of this community when there are differences of opinion and then there is an escalation of unnecessary conflict.

@gaijin not trying to stir up conflict, but it could be helpful if you and the other read Yokohama's specs on this tire. Some tires are listed as "P" and some listed as "LT", and some do not have a defining designation in front of the tire size. Half-way down the page click on "View All Specs."

Peace to all.

Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 Tires: All-Terrain Versatility for SUVs…

Conquer any terrain with Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 tires, featuring exceptional off-road traction, on-road comfort, and long-lasting durability. Perfect…

www.yokohamatire.com

 

[AnyMal]

Unless I missed it, looks like no one here as done this.

As kindly as I can say this, some of you need to bring it down a notch. It hurts the helpful dynamic of this community when there are differences of opinion and then there is an escalation of unnecessary conflict.

@gaijin not trying to stir up conflict, but it could be helpful if you and the other read Yokohama's specs on this tire. Some tires are listed as "P" and some listed as "LT", and some do not have a defining designation in front of the tire size.

Peace to all.

Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 Tires: All-Terrain Versatility for SUVs…

Conquer any terrain with Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 tires, featuring exceptional off-road traction, on-road comfort, and long-lasting durability. Perfect…

www.yokohamatire.com

Word of advice, don't take any recommendations from @gaijin on tires. It could cost you your life.
I have him blocked for a reason.

 

[gaijin]

@gaijin not trying to stir up conflict, but it could be helpful if you and the other read Yokohama's specs on this tire. Some tires are listed as "P" and some listed as "LT", and some do not have a defining designation in front of the tire size.

Peace to all.

Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 Tires: All-Terrain Versatility for SUVs…

Conquer any terrain with Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 tires, featuring exceptional off-road traction, on-road comfort, and long-lasting durability. Perfect…

www.yokohamatire.com

Here's what I said:

First, there are no P-Metric sizes for 18" Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 tires.

That statement is correct, since I indeed did read the specs for this tire.

It would be helpful if you checked the specs for the 18" tires and you will find only ISO-Metric and LT-Metric - NO P-METRIC PRODUCT OFFERINGS IN 18" TIRES.

If I am missing something else, please be specific about what that might be.

HTH

 

[UPR LC]

If you need severe weather traction, decent mud and loose dirt traction, good towing manners and don't mind a slightly more aggressive tire, the Cooper ST Maxx is really hard to beat. Quieter than a MT, they're the best option Ive found between AT and MT tires.

I first tried them after all the local Forest Service rigs switched from Toyo, as well as the fish cops. I now run them on my 200, my F350 and the old plow truck.

I definitely agree with the ST MAXX. I have a set on a F-250 diesel with camper and they get cut a bit from rocks, but they have been excellent in all weather and trails. What sold me on them is that all the pipeline guys in AK seem to have them on their trucks (at least when I visited a few years back). The ST MAXX is stud-able as well if the user is in a winter climate.

I went with the BFG AT on the LC, I have a lot of experience with BFG over the years and they have served me well.

Terrain makes a huge difference when selecting a tire, where I explore, with a lot of sharp rocks, sidewall strength (puncture resistance) is very important, which is rarely tested by Tire Rack or any other major outfit that I know of.

 

[gaijin]

@gaijin not trying to stir up conflict, but it could be helpful if you and the other read Yokohama's specs on this tire. Some tires are listed as "P" and some listed as "LT", and some do not have a defining designation in front of the tire size. Half-way down the page click on "View All Specs."

Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 Tires: All-Terrain Versatility for SUVs…

Conquer any terrain with Yokohama GEOLANDAR A/T G015 tires, featuring exceptional off-road traction, on-road comfort, and long-lasting durability. Perfect…

www.yokohamatire.com

FYI, for those tires which "do not have a defining designation," those are built to ISO-Metric / ETRTO design specifications - they require the use of a separate set of Load Inflation Tables than P-Metric tires which are built to a different set of design specifications.

If you want more information on this subject, I highly recommend an excellent monograph on the subject published by Toyo Tires: Guidelines for the Application of Load and Inflation Tables

HTH

 

[JetFuel]

Word of advice, don't take any recommendations from @gaijin on tires. It could cost you your life.
I have him blocked for a reason.

Why?

 

[AnyMal]

Why?

I dont want to even discuss it anymore. Let's just say gross oversimplification of complex topics does not an expert make.

 

[RT Cruiser]

It would be helpful if you checked the specs for the 18" tires and you will find only ISO-Metric and LT-Metric - NO P-METRIC PRODUCT OFFERINGS IN 18" TIRES.

Thanks for the correction. It is received.