Tire siping

[brokenparts]

Not sure if this really qualifies for "hardcore" but it does have to with snow wheelin...???

Anyway, I'm thinking about running my tires down to have them siped for the upcoming snow wheelin season (mine still drives to and from the trail but not is not dd). Anyone have any thoughts or feelings?

 

[Isotel]

What kind of tires? im sure that any "Mud" tire or large lugged tire would help to have them sipped for winter.. Swampers and MTR's suck pretty bad on ice, packed snow, or slush..


Redline Land Cruisers has a nice Siper that they built for the Circle Track Guys.. Its Small and uses Easy to find Utility knife Razor Blades. The Cool thing with this is you can Set it up to only go Say 1/8" deep or so for this winter, then decide if you want to do it again for the summer time..

Id also bet that the Small Shallow Sipping combined with large Lugs would hook up pretty good on in the rocks..

Here is a photo of the Siper

They Are $100 Shipped PM Me for more info

 

[boots4]

I've got a tire groover that the blade can be flipped, adjusted for depth and used as a siper. It's heated so it would cut much easier than a cold blade. Let me know if you want to try it out and I can get it back from who's borrowing it now (it would be a good reason since he's had it for several months).

 

[kling-on]

I dont know about for that white stuff that falls from the sky up there but I love my sipes on the rocks

 

[brokenparts]

I dont know about for that white stuff that falls from the sky up there but I love my sipes on the rocks

ah, you dont know what your missing. We have a local foothills mtn here in oregon (Goat Mtn) that goes from a harmless service/local road to deep snow wheeling fun in a matter of weeks. Crawl magazine has some pics of the area in a issue not too far back...I cant wait!!!

Thanks for info guys.

Zach

 

[cruiser boy]

Firm believer in siping....and my friend cimmoron was on that crawl mag run....Rod

 

[Mace]

I've got a tire groover that the blade can be flipped, adjusted for depth and used as a siper. It's heated so it would cut much easier than a cold blade. Let me know if you want to try it out and I can get it back from who's borrowing it now (it would be a good reason since he's had it for several months).

use the heated groover with the blade turned around
~ $60 and it would be a hell of a lot faster than the cold blade.

 

[brokenparts]

Hey thanks for the offer... boots. Les Schwab will do all 4 for $40 and do it according to customer specs. I think I'll save myself the trouble and just have them do it. General consensus from other sites seems to be just doing the middle?

 

[brokenparts]

had some people think that the Iroks would be too soft of a tire and would end up chunking pretty quickly?

 

[brokenparts]

Just to make sure everyone knows I'm talking siping like this:

not grooving.

 

[Mace]

iroks are already siped..

wait and see how it handles..

 

[Eskimo]

Siping my old SX's helped a bunch.

 

[CruisinFJ60]

iroks are already siped..

wait and see how it handles..

indeed. I dont think you would really NEED any additional sipes on the Iroks. I think the 40 bux your gonna spend will not help a whole lot to be honest.

Siping my old SX's helped a bunch.

yes i can see how that would help as it comes with no tread sipes when new.

I have 1 of the tires on my truck now that is siped and i can feel it helpint the truck to stop in wet and slick conditions. (the tire came from another truck that had the tires siped already i just havent got around to doing my other 3)

 

[Jetboy]

factory sipes are usually not very deep and not even close to the ultimate effect of siping with a real siping machine. I will say that some factory winter tires are pretty good. The sipes need to be deep enough to allow the tread block to flex so you get the edges exposed. If you have a deck of cards or something similar, you have to bend it to expose the edges. The sipes are also beneficial to reduce heat in the tread and increase tire life. The risk you run is chunking if you spend a lot of time spinning on any type of hard surface.

 

[Landcruisin'60]

So from BPs picture it looks like they just used a utility knife. Is that an ok way to do it?

 

[CruisinFJ60]

factory sipes are usually not very deep and not even close to the ultimate effect of siping with a real siping machine. I will say that some factory winter tires are pretty good. The sipes need to be deep enough to allow the tread block to flex so you get the edges exposed. If you have a deck of cards or something similar, you have to bend it to expose the edges. The sipes are also beneficial to reduce heat in the tread and increase tire life. The risk you run is chunking if you spend a lot of time spinning on any type of hard surface.

the Iroks flex a good bit. and are super soft.
I dunno im sure it would help some but dunno if it would make a $40 dif. (for me anyway.)

now on some SX's or something of the like w/o any tread sipes siping the tread i think would have nearly a night and day dif. on slick or wet surfaces.

 

[Mace]

So from BPs picture it looks like they just used a utility knife. Is that an ok way to do it?

It is a fine way to do it. I know a guy that did it with a pizza cutter (sharpened)

But my god that would take a long time..

 

[UNBREAKABLE]

Try it...I'm grooving my 42"TSL's

 

[Mace]

wait to see, there is a significant difference between TSL's and Iroks..

 

[freds40]

Every set of Interco Tires I've owned, I have grooved and siped and they all take extremely well to it. I have not owned Iroks though. I do have a buddy that has a set of 39" Iroks on a mini truck and he added a ton of grooving to them and says for as good as they were stock, they are a ton better now in the snow. I have heard great things about Iroks in the snow right off the shelf.