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Tinkerer’s Adventurer fits 37s with no lift or BMC
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It's not the diameter, it's the scrub radius + diameter. Most people (myself included) want the more aggressive +25 offset. Keeping the stock +60 overcomes a lot of problems with running big rubber in front.
) with no cutting or mods really.
I think Method made those +40s specifically for that reason. I prefer the +25, but the +40 is a great compromise for the 200.
Perfect illustration of the same discussion we rehash on a weekly basis whenever a newer guy asks about fitting big tires. Gotta say, I'm more than a little jealous of the new shorty tundra. 
what are the tire/wheel specs on your rig?
It’s all moot on an LC to fit 37s unless you ditch the KDSS. Low offset is required on the LC to avoid the damn arm
LX FTW
Yeah, if I had it to do over again...
Another masterclass from tinkerer showing all the variables at play. Describing the interactions in words is next to impossible to really convey what he did in a sweet video.
Of course, even using all the tricks he's documented won't allow the 200-series to stuff 37s. 35s are to the 200-series what 37s are to the Tundra.
Then again, a 200-series probably only needs 35s to perform at the same level as that Tundra on 37s. Bigger vehicles with larger footprints and longer wheelbase need relatively larger tires to perform in my experience.
Of course, even using all the tricks he's documented won't allow the 200-series to stuff 37s. 35s are to the 200-series what 37s are to the Tundra.
Then again, a 200-series probably only needs 35s to perform at the same level as that Tundra on 37s. Bigger vehicles with larger footprints and longer wheelbase need relatively larger tires to perform in my experience.
If you copied his exact setup(RW’s and 37x11.5’s) would it hit the frame on the 200 since the control arms are 1.5 or 1.75” shorter?
Yes, pretty sure with 11.5s on 50mm offset, it would contact the frame, UCA, and sway bar. The packaging is narrower to your point and overall tighter on the 200-series.
Someone give me a set of RWs and 37s and I’ll confirm what’s possible and end this debate
I was wondering why i couldnt find it last night.
It's a good video showing a few things that I used to try to explain to folks on the 4Runner forum. Offset matters a lot and caster should be corrected on the LCA, not the UCA.
I have 35s on my Tundra - crazy thing for me was that it didn't even require removing the mud flaps. The only thing i had to do was trim a tiny bit off the skid plate with some tin snips (the OEM engine skid is weak sauce). But also they really don't even look very big on a Tundra. They kind of look like stock size if you don't have a stock size next to it for reference. Part of me regrets not bumping up to 37s. Would be nice if there were tire options in a 37 with a more all-season type tread pattern for more comfortable highway miles.
I have 35s on my Tundra - crazy thing for me was that it didn't even require removing the mud flaps. The only thing i had to do was trim a tiny bit off the skid plate with some tin snips (the OEM engine skid is weak sauce). But also they really don't even look very big on a Tundra. They kind of look like stock size if you don't have a stock size next to it for reference. Part of me regrets not bumping up to 37s. Would be nice if there were tire options in a 37 with a more all-season type tread pattern for more comfortable highway miles.
I think this is definitely true. My 4Runner with 34" tires would pretty easily out-perform the Tundra on 35s in most offroad scenarios. The only place it might not is high speed desert type places where the long wheelbase can be an advantage and in the sand where the Tundra's big power advantage might overcome the size and weight. The 200 also has a MUCH better version of ATRAC/MTS. The ATRAC on the tundra is pretty worthless. I'd guess in the more technical trails a LC200 stock would still do better than my Tundra on 35s just due to the traction control.
295/70/18 BFG KO3s and method MR318s. I massaged a little plastic and moved a few things around with the guidance of @tbisaacs who happens to live down the street more or less.
Same on my F150. I put 315/70's on it and they looked normal lol. Looking back at pictures when it was stock or had 275/60R20 Duratracs it was pretty goofy looking.
Unfortunately, I went from a +44 to a +12. I didn't intend to do that, I was gunna get +34mm Raptor takeoffs, but a guy literally 5 minutes from my house sold me 5x VenomRex VR602's and 5x basically new 315/70 KO2's for $1200 and I couldn't pass it up. I did have to trim a bit though.
My GX460 on 33's was much more capable than my F150 on 35's. Breakover alone destroyed the F150.
Agreed. I wheel with a pretty varied group and it plays out over and over. This 4Runner on modest 33s will make easy work out of many things a Raptor on 37s may not breeze over as easily. Part of it is opportunity for line choice whereas a Raptor will just have use the only line he fits through.
And yes, open expanses is the Raptor natural playground.
