Three speed sticks in second gear

[Radish150]

Sorry about doubling up on this subject, but was hoping to attract some tranny guys. So basically the story is we combined two trannies into one, the result was a tranny that functioned perfectly except for it seems to want to get stuck in second gear, requires MUCH force to get it to release, or to get it up to speed in second then it will release.

So my question is if there is some sort of adjustment on this meshing of the gears involved in second, shims or something... or if I need to buy new parts for the second gear. BTW, this is a 67 3sp floor shifter model. I will be making a trip to the states soon and can pick up parts if I need to, if there is no adjustment to be made on this if someone could tip me off as to what parts I need to replace the second gear components.

Thanks
Mark...

 

[65swb45]

There's a snapring that holds the synchro and the gear to the output shaft. If the snapring is too thick, or something else is messed up tolerance-wise, the 2nd gear could be rubbing against the output shaft. That would cause it to drag and not want to synchronize.

With the top cover off of the trans, you should be able to feel this 'drag' if that is the case.

Best

Mark A.

 

[Pin_Head]

It might also be a misassembled synchro hub/sleeve assembly with one of the keys out of place.

 

[Buckwheat]

Get rid of -not spend money on- it

If you insist on keeping the 3-speed, PM me & I'll give you my number so when you get to the states, I can give you one, in good working order, for free. If you want to go to 4 speed, they're cheap around here, too.

 

[Radish150]

For Buckwheat

I was talking to the guy that put my tranny together again and he said "sigh", that the two syncros that were in the two trannies were different from one another. One, according to him had square teeth, the other triangular? Even though mine (the one in the case I´m using) was the one with triangular teeth he put the one with square teeth in cuz it was in better shape, . Does that even make sense, two kinds of second gear synros on old 3speeds?

In response to the posters regarding clips and keys being improperly installed, all I can say is that is more than possible considering who was holding the wrenches and their lack of a manua (yah my bad). Furthermore, to make matters stranger yet, what was a case of the damn thing sticking in 2nd gear has changed to a case of it NOT sticking in 2nd anymore, in fact, now if you shake the crap out of the truck on pot holes it will now pop OUT of second gear while running . So Mr. Buckwheat, yes please and thank you! What state are you in? If I was going to be keeping this rig I would switch it to a 4sp but I already am planning a resto of the 79 that I bought recently for 500$. So Ill leave it up to the next guy to switch if he wants. Good running landcruisers are apparently worth quite a bit of money in Cuzco (lots of mud, mountains, snow and people with money) so I´m planning on making a pilgrmige in a few months to sell it. Then Ill restore the other one using what Ive learned on this one. BTW for those aquainted with my "funky assed rebuild", ive only managed to put about 1000 miles on it since I did it, but it sure sounds and runs nice so far (with it´s bolted on pulley), no oil use, and the power increase was significant.

Thanks for the offer of the 3sp Buckwheat, I´ll get with you later on that ok?

Cheers
Mark...

 

[Pin_Head]

ISo Mr. Buckwheat, yes please and thank you! What state are you in?
Cheers
Mark...

Umm, the "Bay Area" usually refers to the area around the San Francisco bay.

 

[Radish150]

Umm, the "Bay Area" usually refers to the area around the San Francisco bay.

Yah thanks, I just didn't think to check till I was writing my response and his info was not visible. As I was typing though, it crossed my mind that some pinhead would surely check me on it if it was in his info, sure enuf.

 

[73fj]

Don't put it in second.........c'mon I'm not the only guy who thought that.

 

[Buckwheat]

Mark, When you referred to the states, I figgered you were down under, but now I gather you're east coast Canada?

 

[Radish150]

What does a nude 3sp weigh???

Hey Buckwheat, yes you could say I was down under, WAY down under in Peru - South America. What does a 3sp minus the t case and B housing weigh anyway? I´d have to ship it from Cal to NY (yikes) then it would need to come in under the check in intl. airline luggage limit which I think is only 75 lbs now. I´m doubting the parts would come in under that...? Minus the case maybe, that and a manual to help them get it right this time.

 

[JC39232]

Hey Buckwheat, yes you could say I was down under, WAY down under in Peru - South America. What does a 3sp minus the t case and B housing weigh anyway? I´d have to ship it from Cal to NY (yikes) then it would need to come in under the check in intl. airline luggage limit which I think is only 75 lbs now. I´m doubting the parts would come in under that...? Minus the case maybe, that and a manual to help them get it right this time.

I think the weight limit on checked stuff is 50 lbs. My girlfriend just went to peru and that was their limit.

JC

 

[Radish150]

Well it used to depend on the whims of the particular airline, but I think they have actually standardized the limit. Damn, guess Ill be taking one home in pieces.

 

[Buckwheat]

Mark,
You could load everything onto a pallet & then ship it as part of a container load. Air freight would be astronomical. Checked baggage? Fuhgedaboutit!! You could ship to the Apple & on home but why bother even going there? If it isn't cold, it's boiling hot & humid, everything is rusted, there are no thongs on the rocky seashores, even in summertime. I doubt they even have heard of ceviche there, let alone learned how to make it. Go straight to SoCal, enjoy the weather, pick up enough cruiser parts to load a pallet, or two, & ship, for a few hundreds of dollars. Wait a few months on the beach, viewing aforementioned thongs & eating ceviches, pounding the Guinness, then go meet your ship back home. What could be simpler?

 

[Radish150]

Mark,
You could load everything onto a pallet & then ship it as part of a container load. Air freight would be astronomical. Checked baggage? Fuhgedaboutit!! You could ship to the Apple & on home but why bother even going there? If it isn't cold, it's boiling hot & humid, everything is rusted, there are no thongs on the rocky seashores, even in summertime. I doubt they even have heard of ceviche there, let alone learned how to make it. Go straight to SoCal, enjoy the weather, pick up enough cruiser parts to load a pallet, or two, & ship, for a few hundreds of dollars. Wait a few months on the beach, viewing aforementioned thongs & eating ceviches, pounding the Guinness, then go meet your ship back home. What could be simpler?


Hey Buckwheat your my new official travel guru! Truth be told though, the plane fare is being paid by an artist friend of mine who has a show opening at the United Nations, I´m accompaning him as bodyguard... (poor guy) haha. Actually I´m really looking forward to the trip as I´m a dyed in the wool west coaster and hardly know what anything looks like East of Colorado. I am an amatuer photographer and have artistic intrest in NY, I like GRIT. Sooooo, Buckwheat what do you think a bag of gears and crap out of one of your 3speeds would weigh? Sea Cargo? Hmmm, well thats probably a smashing idea but really all I plan to bring back is some mirrors, indicator lights and gears. Ya think it´s a bad plan to ship it east, tear it apart there and just cart a bag of parts back on the plane as checked baggage? Do you know someone who could dissasemble it? Would be much easier to just pick up a 3sp in Lima except for there would not be any form of sureity I was getting something useful.