These trucks require alot of maintence!!

[evsweat1]

if your not a mechanic or mechanically inclined btw repacking both the front and rear axles at 30k (only thought it had to be done on the front for some reason) lubricating drive shaft, steering knuckles, transfer case oil, diff oils this gets expensive espcially if you do around 30 k a year or very time consumming to do.


The dealer never said they need to be repacked every 30k he acted as though its good for the rest of the life of the vehicle and never anything about the rear ones, not even a question if it was ever done or if i would like to do it?? LOL maybe they don't want ppl do know and break something so its costs and arm and leg to fix so they get more money who knows just my o2 cents

 

[Brentbba]

On the repack of the front knuckles - Yota does not include that in scheduled maintenance. Only when they break! General wisdom from wheelers on this board is to do every 60K, not 30K. $1200 job at dealer, about $300 if you shop smart with Cdan, as I recall.

 

[Tooth Fairy]

$300 plus all the fluids and a hub tool brought me up to about $400 and that was after new Timkens also. Besides, it's great practice for when you might break something out in the woods.

 

[lurker]

On the repack of the front knuckles - Yota does not include that in scheduled maintenance. Only when they break! General wisdom from wheelers on this board is to do every 60K, not 30K. $1200 job at dealer, about $300 if you shop smart with Cdan, as I recall.

That would be about $260 including bearings, but you forgot to add upto $150 for grease and syn. lub. plus tools thrown across interstate.

 

[Brentbba]

I'm a bean counter, so I round or average everything. hehehe Never done a repack as hell hasn't frozen over and I've never broken par at my course! When those two things happen........

 

[firetruck41]

The maintenance is similar to what you should do for any heavy duty truck, though other (non-toyota/import) trucks will probably need many actual repairs during the same time in addition to just the preventative maintenance most of us do. We are fanatics on this board, many people out there do much less and get by for a very long time. But for the enthusiast we pride ourselves (and our vehicles) in keeping them in top shape.

Front repack should be every 60k+, not 30k though. Rear repack should be easier, but I haven't done them (23k since I got the truck).

 

[Scamper]

Ben's nailed it. Don't do the service if you don't want to--stick to the owner's manual. If you're lucky, it will save you money in the long run.

But many of us on this forum want to hold onto these trucks for the long haul, and so we do preventive manintainence on them. That costs something, but we're willing to pay it, knowing that our trucks are in sound condition and can take the beating they're about to receive.

As the Fram guy used to say..."pay me now, or pay me later...".

 

[Riley]

When Robbie stated 30K he meant for repacking the wheel bearings not a knuckle job. There's a big difference.

30K for wheel bearings
60K for front axle job and axle seals ect... (of course this job includes the wheel bearings).

Probably also good to check the bearing preload somewhere in between these services.

 

[Junk]

ev - get a grip dude. Want your junk to last you gotta take care of it. If you aren't ready for that, then sell it.

Brent "I'm a bean counter, so I round or average everything" - hope your CFO remembers that during budget time there slappy. You sound like half the folks I used to work with. They liked "round numbers cause they were easy to add"

 

[DRTDuck]

Ev-

ditto of Junk, I think maybe the titel of the thread should be "These truck require alot of PREVENTIVE maintenance". Then you might get responses like, "heck ya, and i love doing it because it will help my truck last for the next 30 years"

They certainly don't require alot of maintence in the sense of break done maintenance.

 

[Gumby]

That would be about $260 including bearings, but you forgot to add upto $150 for grease and syn. lub. plus tools thrown across interstate.

$150 for lube? I wanna be your grease salesman.

You want a preventative maintenance schedule, buy a Benz. It might last forever, but you get to pay a lot in the meantime. If someone gave me a Mecedes, it might last 300,00, but I couldn't afford it to.

I see a lot of Toyotas that never get any maintenance. They still last a long time, but not as long as if they were taken care of. In our case, we tend to go a bit overboard, but many of us work our rigs hard and expect them to last until there ain't no more dead dinosaurs to put in 'em.

 

[nyk438]

These trucks require a lot of maintence?! I have had mine in my posession for 6 months. My 91' has been in our family..since 91' and their had been minimal problems with it. Go buy a heep or something then you'll start crying about maintence

 

[lurker]

$150 for lube? I wanna be your grease salesman. /QUOTE]

I ment for lube, grease, and bearing grease.

I've never used Amsoil, which seems to be a favorite on this board, but most Royal purple products can cost 2x as much.

It's a local NAPA thing.

OK shoot me.

 

[lovetoski]

I've had a Ford Taurus car for work for the past 12 years. 5 cars, 8 transmissions. Turned them all in at 60,000 miles. They were near dead at that point. There is no way I would buy one of them, even though I'd kept them serviced at the factory schedule.

The difference I think is that "normal" cars have a lifespan of 100,000 - 150,000 miles. (Maybe the Taurus is worse than average though?) Landcruisers, if maintained well, can go 2 - 4X that. Over the total life of the vehicle, the cost is certainly lower, but there is more maintainance too. The difference is that these are designed to be serviced, and the service will extend the life of the vehicle.

 

[GXO]

Wives demand a lot of maintenance, but we keep them around.

 

[robbie]

Yes i did mean 30k miles for a wheel bearing service on a knuckle repack. 60k miles for a knuckle repack. I do suggest the bigger the tire you go and the more agressive you go, you need to tighten the front wheel bearing more often. Personally I am into my truck for a front wheel bearing tightening about every 10-15 k miles for the bearing loosing up. I believe this is do to the claw washer that is a soft metal. Now if this was harden like the rear washer this wear more than likely would not happen. Cost on a harden front claw washer is over 15 dollar a washer and we would have to order many.
The one thing I love about my toyota is that it has never let me down in the field or on a trip. I usually have a handle on things with the preventive maintance. Now if I was just as maintance goal orintanted around another vechicle it may or may not have the same results. It really is a comforting feeling to trust the vechicle to perform in really out of the way areas I travel to. This has been the way it is for over 25 years of owning different toyota's and the out of the way area's I have traveled. This never would of happen with a jeep or chevy. I will not even incude ford or dodge. I grew up with chey and fords and man were they maintance and resource hogs. Lots of fun when they ran. but always working on them.
well maintained toyota is the only vechicle I would trust my family to in the way back. buy just about anything to run around the paved roads where AAA can get to.(second car is a SAAB 9000 now). l
later robbie

 

[Cruiserdrew]

They do take a lot of maintence! However, they require relatively few repairs. I'll trade scheduled down time (maintence) over unscheduled, poorly timed repairs anytime. I have also found that once you get them up to snuff, the need for maintence goes down. For instance my '76 took about a year to go through all the major systems, from cooling to carb, and since then, it has only required fluid changes and the like. My 60 is in progress, and I am nearing the time I hope it will require little other than routine care, but I did replace a lot of worn out subsystems which I attribute to the POs poor maintence practices. As the trucks age, though, the maintence gets more complex. For instance, is replacing a leaky seal maintence or a repair? I think it's maintence that you need to do at 180k intervals! What about replacing a clutch? They clearly are not designed to last the life of the rest of the car, so it's maintence, but maintence that you do only once. These trucks do seem to go well for a long period of time, so I'm OK with investing my time and energy in their upkeep. I think Land Cruisers are designed to live a hard life, but then be completely rebuildable to "like new" If you want a no maintence car, get a Camry, but don't ask it to do the job of a Land Cruiser.