The 2016+ LX Master Thread (7 Viewers)

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Anyone know why the CBI front bumper says it's only for 2019-21? Was there something different in the front end of the 2016-2018 that would prevent it from mounting?
 
As I'm sure you know, the (not so) face-lifted LX is trickling in more day by day.
With the market for LCs dwindling, its only going to get more popular.

It is (un?)fortunately the black sheep of the j200 family. Albeit my favorite model. (and by far the best looking IMO)
I personally have so little to draw from on MUD for my truck, and there is of course a whole diff forum for the 300 and 600 where they can hash out their discrepancies.

I would like to see a pin or master thread for the range 16-21 LX 570.


Dissent however has a full package for the LX 600 now though that no one will buy? LOL
Its a 3 year wait for the 600 and dissent went all out? But the one that people will buy to modify and already have has nothing tailored for it? Make that make sense for me dissent.

Not only are all these things unique, but the info about anyone who has actually done anything is scrambled all over different threads.

Theres probably no support for this because there are like 6 people who own one here. But i wont really know until i ask and see whos lurking around.
But either, way, the need will present itself eventually. These model years cant be ignored forever.

I like our black sheep (have a 2018) and am actually looking at a second one! I would keep one mild for road trips and one a bit more wild for ... long road trips interspersed with side jaunts to over touristed mall crawling destinations out west :D. Just a few quick thoughts and additions ...

1) Parts - Happy to contribute to the thread and to confirm that I'd be down for some 2016 specific gear, but I don't know if everyone is after the same parts. FWIW for me:
- Front bumper - might be in but not sure what my ideal would look like. I am actually thinking about the 2016+ LC bumper from Slee (loved the original Blueberry build).
- Sliders - something without rivet nuts (hate having those break loose and have seen that a number of times on other vehicles). If I do ditch AHC for some coilovers the second best part, beyond using some parts I already ordered for an LC, would be the ability to install some bolt on sliders. I can handle adding the LC rocker panel or some cleanly trimmed and factory rockers. But again, I hear what you're after and if it was rivet-nut free I'd be down.
- Alternative for the $11K central HVAC and Nav control unit when it decides to stop working.
- Long travel, larger shaft diameter AHC shocks for desert runs!
- Rear bumper - good with what's available for the rest of the LC line
- Racks - not a fan of aftermarket racks but I'm in the minority on Mud on that (seen more than leak, even when installed by a top shop and an aircraft mechanic)

2) In Dissent's defense on the LX600 vs the LX570, I'll let them weigh in if they like but I believe Lexus commissioned them to build out an LX600, similar to how Lexus asked CBI to build out a 2019 LX that resulted in the bumper and sliders for those. If ten of us came to them with one new design request or gave them some design freedom and a deposit I think we would have some pretty cool stuff to play with.

To circle back to where I started, in terms of praise though... As a daily, and depending on how you use it and what your dealer service options are like there are few if any vehicles quite like it. After just doing a three state run in my LX starting at 4:00 a.m., I have to say the 2016+ LX is one of my favorite vehicles.
 
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I like our black sheep (have a 2018) and am actually looking at a second one! I would keep one mild for road trips and one a bit more wild for ... long road trips interspersed with side jaunts to over touristed mall crawling destinations out west :D. Just a few quick thoughts and additions ...

1) Parts - Happy to contribute to the thread and to confirm that I'd be down for some 2016 specific gear, but I don't know if everyone is after the same parts. FWIW for me:
- Front bumper - might be in but not sure what my ideal would look like. I am actually thinking about the 2016+ LC bumper from Slee (loved the original Blueberry build).
- Sliders - something without rivet nuts (hate having those break loose and have seen that a number of times on other vehicles). If I do ditch AHC for some coilovers the second best part, beyond using some parts I already ordered for an LC, would be the ability to install some bolt on sliders. I can handle adding the LC rocker panel or some cleanly trimmed and factory rockers. But again, I hear what you're after and if it was rivet-nut free I'd be down.
- Alternative for the $11K central HVAC and AHC control unit when it decides to stop working.
- Long travel, larger shaft diameter AHC shocks for desert runs!
- Rear bumper - good with what's available for the rest of the LC line
- Racks - not a fan of aftermarket racks but I'm in the minority on Mud on that (seen more than leak, even when installed by a top shop and an aircraft mechanic)

2) In Dissent's defense on the LX600 vs the LX570, I'll let them weigh in if they like but I believe Lexus commissioned them to build out an LX600, similar to how Lexus asked CBI to build out a 2019 LX that resulted in the bumper and sliders for those. If ten of us came to them with one new design request or gave them some design freedom and a deposit I think we would have some pretty cool stuff to play with.

To circle back to where I started, in terms of praise though... As a daily, and depending on how you use it and what your dealer service options are like there are few if any vehicles quite like it. After just doing a three state run in my LX starting at 4:00 a.m., I have to say the 2016+ LX is one of my favorite vehicles.

Nice buddy! Having two you def win lol.

Im going to mock up something on photoshop for the front and rear as ive been really thinking a lot about the cuts i would make. It would be very much to the tune of the minimal dissent 600 but more aggressive towards the wheel arch where our bumper is basically empty inside.

As far as sliders im interested in powerboards with an in cabin kill switch and plating for AHC. Not sliders. But the best ones for our rig are dissent in terms of aesthetic. They are a square and plate and not a safari bar design.

These aren’t immediate needs for me though and i have yet to take it anywhere outside of ranch crawling. Never planning to do anything hardcore with it though, more overland and apocalypse truck for me and road trips.

I drove my 470 cross country NY-SF like 8 times. 570 is better in every way outside of my annoying shimmy, but my 470 was stock…

I have some disappointing news about AHC ive been meaning to make a post about. But dont give up on it yet.

I have some stuff coming for AHC shortly. Will post some info when its installed!
 
Nice buddy! Having two you def win lol.

Im going to mock up something on photoshop for the front and rear as ive been really thinking a lot about the cuts i would make. It would be very much to the tune of the minimal dissent 600 but more aggressive towards the wheel arch where our bumper is basically empty inside.

As far as sliders im interested in powerboards with an in cabin kill switch and plating for AHC. Not sliders. But the best ones for our rig are dissent in terms of aesthetic. They are a square and plate and not a safari bar design.

These aren’t immediate needs for me though and i have yet to take it anywhere outside of ranch crawling. Never planning to do anything hardcore with it though, more overland and apocalypse truck for me and road trips.

I drove my 470 cross country NY-SF like 8 times. 570 is better in every way outside of my annoying shimmy, but my 470 was stock…

I have some disappointing news about AHC ive been meaning to make a post about. But dont give up on it yet.

I have some stuff coming for AHC shortly. Will post some info when its installed!

Oh and im still trying to track down this bumper from dubai. Was supposed to go this year but health issues unfortunately. Next time im back in Dubai it will be all LC shop visits.
 
View attachment 3170940They wouldn't let me drive it since it was sold though.
Couldnt say i loved it but its better than LC.
They didnt fake split gap the more upscale eye of the lexus clientele i guess .LOL

TBH the license area kinda ruins the cleanliness of it. And no more side lights.
I always liked the looks of the tail lights on the LX 570, but when comparing the LX 600 with the LC 300, I like LC 300 look better. Someone pointed out to me that the LX 600 looks like a minivan from the rear and now I can't "unsee" that image. Compare the two:
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I always liked the looks of the tail lights on the LX 570, but when comparing the LX 600 with the LC 300, I like LC 300 look better. Someone pointed out to me that the LX 600 looks like a minivan from the rear and now I can't "unsee" that image. Compare the two:
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its a jeep rear end clone. Great shape but not much character.

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Edit: I meant Heep
 
I always liked the looks of the tail lights on the LX 570, but when comparing the LX 600 with the LC 300, I like LC 300 look better. Someone pointed out to me that the LX 600 looks like a minivan from the rear and now I can't "unsee" that image. Compare the two:
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Don’t insult the Honda……at least it has a REAL defined rear bumper!
 
Don’t insult the Honda……at least it has a REAL defined rear bumper!

What tiger? You don’t want a minor rear tap needing a $15k hatch replacement?
 
What tiger? You don’t want a minor rear tap needing a $15k hatch replacement?

But in reality it’s bc the design sucks and they ****ed up the load floor and butchered our boy in so many ways. They had no option.
 
And do not worry @JPRS the “LC 300 or something similar“ is coming back in… drumroll 2024! With the several year waitlist, you might just get it even more obsolete than it was on the release date . Lol
 
I always liked the looks of the tail lights on the LX 570, but when comparing the LX 600 with the LC 300, I like LC 300 look better. Someone pointed out to me that the LX 600 looks like a minivan from the rear and now I can't "unsee" that image. Compare the two:
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At least it is an angry hatch rather than happy one....
 
It is very difficult finding anything on the 2016+ when it comes to how-to videos. I needed to replace the grill, all videos available were of the pre-facelift version where it was pretty damn easy and gave me false confidence. The 2016+ was a PITA solely because of the lack of info online. I was pretty sure I was going to screw it all up but I just kept winging it. Required a complete teardown of the front section, bumper included. I've read it a million times that these things are overbuilt, but you definitely see it when you take the body apart. I feel like they could have gotten away with 1/3 the screws holding everything together. Anyway, installed an Inspiration edition grill that I found for cheap. My 2018 had a damaged bottom corner on purchase which really bugged me. I know the 2016 got a lot of hate when it was released, but Lexus designers were just ahead of their time. She has just aged so damn well......


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Dissent actually knows how to design things it seems.
They hit the 600 out of the park. WHY DID YOU SKIP MY TRUCK DISSENT. FAAACK!

PLUS, i told everyone early on bumpers would be difficult without chocking off the twin side coolers and was laughed out the thread.
Whos laughing now?

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ABSOLUTELY NAILED THE REAR.

We were disappointed overall after test driving the LX600 as we had planned to order one to replace the LX570 we had sold the year prior. But I have to admit that I really like what they did with this concept, aesthetically speaking it definitely improves the exterior.
 
We were disappointed overall after test driving the LX600 as we had planned to order one to replace the LX570 we had sold the year prior. But I have to admit that I really like what they did with this concept, aesthetically speaking it definitely improves the exterior.

Yeah, i like the shape a lot specially how the rear tucks into the rear wheel well and the overhang was addressed. The design cues are a bit weak though but i still dont hate them. I iust love mine way way more. The front end isnt horrible either its just executed wrong. I mocked up my own version before in the old old 600 thread ill dig up and post it.

Most pro reviews ive seen that come from a truck or LC fan viewpoint make note of the misses and of course jabs at the grill. But when i saw automotive press tv asian guy say it sucks and bought himself a 570 i knew i was vindicated lol.

The real problems i see with the 300 platform are structural though. And i was sorely let down by the 600 interior. Its “high quality” but ugly, lopsided and overly industrial, cold and sporty. It would suit the LC 300 great actually.

Only thing i want from the 600 is dual stage rear AHC dampers. Thats literally it. I knew the V8 was going when i bought my now coveted unicorn 16-21. I did not expect so much disappointment though.

And no pano sunroof!
 
Lopsided is a good way to describe the 600's interior, it was one of the biggest detractors for us. And while I don't care about sunroofs I have to admit that the lack of a panoramic sunroof at this price point and position in the market is a huge miss especially when compared to its competition.
 
Lopsided is a good way to describe the 600's interior, it was one of the biggest detractors for us. And while I don't care about sunroofs I have to admit that the lack of a panoramic sunroof at this price point and position in the market is a huge miss especially when compared to its competition.

Called it out day one and was absolutely shat on in true ih8mud fashion.

What the front should have done:
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There is no fixing the interior though, its a straight mess.
 
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Lopsided is a good way to describe the 600's interior, it was one of the biggest detractors for us. And while I don't care about sunroofs I have to admit that the lack of a panoramic sunroof at this price point and position in the market is a huge miss especially when compared to its competition.

What was your driving impression though? Numb?
 
Power was good, no complaints there, really it was more of a feel of the cockpit for us. Aside from the gauges, weird double screen on the center stack and an overall more compact feeling interior, it was the distance to the windshield, windshield angle and length of the hood/frontend that threw us off. The truck felt longer due to these dimensions and design, we both noticed that right away. It looks more or less like a modern GX and the smaller interior dimensions in places make it feel more like one as well.
 
Power was good, no complaints there, really it was more of a feel of the cockpit for us. Aside from the gauges, weird double screen on the center stack and an overall more compact feeling interior, it was the distance to the windshield, windshield angle and length of the hood/frontend that threw us off. The truck felt longer due to these dimensions and design, we both noticed that right away. It looks more or less like a modern GX and the smaller interior dimensions in places make it feel more like one as well.

Interior makes no sense to me.
Screen positioning and sizing, the touch reach length, cupholders weak AF. Got rid of the iconic twin pillar center stack lines that i love.
Color choices are trash.
Less wood everywhere.
I need to H-Tine grip grain. Period.
 

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