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How capable are the OEM 17” rims that came with the GX? Do you have to get different rims or is it more a style thing?
What about these gx460 18” rims? Are these any good for off road?
I have a set of the 18’s and an extra set of the 17’s. I was considering powder coating them black and using them but if I’m better of selling em and buying aftermarket then I’d do that. Thanks for any opinions.
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All OEM Toyota wheels are very strong wheels. For off road use a tire with a lower profile is less desirable because it doesn't provide as much cushioning when aired down. That said an 18" wheel fitted with a proper AT style tire should not be an issue off road. I would not use a 19" or 20" rim off road with a GX.
 
I didn’t realize both those pics uploaded. Yeah I got rid of the 20’s to the guy who sold it to me. He got a GX 460 and the wife wanted the bling. So I traded for his 18” 460 rims and some cash. Now I’ve got the 17’s and 18’s but really I think the 17’s ride better. Thanks for your take on it too
 
The 17” stock oem rims powder coated in black with skinny tall tires (32x10” = 255/75R17) would be a nice setup for mild and medium trails.

I also have the stock oem alloy wheels in the garage. Not much of a market for them on craigslist
 
I tried to cover the benefits of the skinny tall tires on stock 17” oem rims in this post: GX470 Primer for the Ideal Mild-Build for Under $3000

Most people like the fatter tires, but I can see myself going back to the stock oem 17 wheels with either skinny tall 32x10=255/75R17s or 33x10=255/80R17s

The spare becomes a problem after 32.2” or so because now you need to carry a deflated spare in the stock spare location.
 
Yeah I’ve read a lot on narrow vs wide. One thing they don’t mention is the wider stance by about 2” on both sides with the -12 offset on my 17x9 wheels vs the +25 offset on stock rims.

I’m not sure if it makes any difference, but the wider stance might help keep the balance.
 
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Yeah I’ve read a lot on narrow vs wide. One thing they don’t mention is the wider stance by about 2” on both sides with the -12 offset on my 17x9 wheels vs the +25 offset on stock rims.

I’m not sure if it makes any difference, but the wider stance might help keep the balance.
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I could see some balance benefit with wider stance. I also think a wider stance makes the tires the first contact point when off-road so you are less likely to beat up the body work.

As far as stock wheels I would think they are strong enough but the +25mm offset may limit your tire choice. One option is to use wheels from other Toyota trucks (FJC, 4Runner, 1st gen Tundra) since many of those have a +15mm offset that will move the tires a little bit further out. Plus, they are prominent and can be found cheap.
 
Cool I appreciate the answers. Any take on the 18” ones I’ve got? I have to come clean, I tried being clever with my screen name but I’ve never lifted a vehicle. Always been more prone to lowering sedans but things change. The whole wheel/tire/suspension thing is rather daunting and almost overwhelming. I haven’t really looked into offsets yet. I’ve also been following those ideal build threads and was going to ask HomersCanyonero about an ideal build where cost wasn’t exactly an object. I’m not a baller but if I’m doing things I like doing them right the first time.
Again appreciate all the feedback here and the other threads
 
I’ve mentioned in other threads that the suspension is the most difficult to figure out.

Doing it right really depends on your final goal. What’s the weight of your equipment? Front Bumper? Winch? Roof top tent? Sliders? Skid plates? Dual battery? Rear bumper? Ladder?

Also, what’s your desired lift? 2”? 3”? 4”?

Tire size like 33s or 34s or 35s also play a role.

I’m probably not the right person to give you advice on a moderate build because I’ve only run Bilstein and OME shocks in my Gx470. Only OME on the 80.

I’m pretty close to the moderate build that I want for my needs. I just need to do the rear coil conversion to progressive Dobinson springs and Bilstein 5160 resi rear shocks. This matches my front Bilstein 6112s shocks and springs. I’m on 33” tires on 17x9 wheels. I have sliders and skid plates. I have total chaos UCAs. Lots of maintenance. Ready to offroad and explore.
 
I like my 4RUNNER rims, to me they look good and where cheap. It was easy to get 2 sets of 4, so I have a matching spare and trailer tires. And right now I have 2 spares.
I also like your 18” factory rim, I like that simple style, easy to clean.
 
So, and again I apologize if these ore over easy questions, just starting out here but...are 4Runner rims more capable or have a better offset or other characteristics that make them better than the stock ones I have?
Because I’ve now got the collection of GX rims and I had that thought of putting a set (or half a set) on the trailer to have all matching also. Like that you did that, I was just in your hood I should’ve met you somewhere to see your trailer. Maybe next time.
 
I run 18” FN BFD rims with a 33” tire, but my truck is fairly built as far as suspension mods. Wheel offset plays a huge role in how much you’ll need to trim from the front body mounts, fenders, and running boards if you keep them. Adjustable upper control arms will give you additional positive caster to pull the wheel forward in the wheel well, and aid with rubbing issues. Factory rims can and are used quite a bit on built trucks, most use a 1.25” or 1.5” spacer though.
 
Read the section on tires and wheels on ih8mud and the Lexus GXOR site. Lots of people posted their tire and wheel combinations; and modifications and rubbing experience start [GX Offroad]

The rims themselves don’t make you more capable. Stock oem rims are strong and well built. I haven’t heard of a stock rim breaking on the trail.

We put different wheels for looks or to fit wider/taller tires. There’s even a well known debate on the offroad benefits of narrow vs wide tires.

The problem answering your questions is that there’s no universally accepted “best” wheel or “best” tire or “best” suspension for the GX470 for all situations.
 
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I’m catching on I’m catching on....wow though. The average person really has no idea what goes into a built truck. Getting a little off the stock rims subject but do guys do the suspension work yourselves? Do you know of a Colorado shop that would be good to visit that could do the work? I’ve got Slee in golden on my list I just haven’t made it there yet. Thanks again for the input
 
I installed the rear oem shocks with help from this board. First time ever I changed shocks myself.

I can install skid plates and bumpers, but don’t do my own engine work. I take it to an independent mechanic in LA.

Ive been reading the boards for 10 years since I started with the 80 landcruiser back in 2006.

You are lucky you are near Slee. Another member on here @Romer takes his stable of Land cruisers to slee for much of his work. Slee recently, like earlier this year, fully built Romer’s daughters Gx470 from stock to higjly moderate build.

That’s a build with new wheels, 33” tires, sliders, bumpers, OME suspension all around, UCAs, and more.

If you want to go that route, just take it to Slee and he knows the GX470s and can set you right.
 
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So I had been under the impression Slee wasn't working on GX's, not true I take it? Yes that's a great shop from what I know. My brother is in Denver and has been there.

@Lifted not sure if it came up already but one other thing is that the bigger your wheel (diameter) the less tire deflection you will get with the same sized tire. Since people often air down tires your bigger wheel is going to reduce how much deflection you get when aired down. Personally if you are going to be off road a fair bit I would stick with 17" wheels or smaller. @HomersCanyonero is right about the debate on skinny vs wide tires, but having read some somewhat detailed opinions/reviews lately it would seem a 10" or so wide tire is probably better in most situations over a wider 11" or 12" tire. The key point being on the "average" off road situation a narrower tire has more pressure/sq inch on the surface of the ground and therefore better traction. Deep mud/sand/snow being the exception where wider tires may work better. But that's where a smaller diameter wheel works well with the skinny tire - you can air down more and thus create more tire surface area front to back.

HomersCanyonero said:
I installed the rear oem shocks with help from this board. First time ever I changed shocks myself.

I can install skid plates and bumpers, but don’t do my own engine work. I take it to an independent mechanic in LA.

Ive been reading the boards for 10 years since I started with the 80 landcruiser back in 2006.

You are lucky you are near Slee. Another member on here @Romer takes his stable of Land cruisers to slee for much of his work. Slee recently, like earlier this year, fully built Romer’s daughters Gx470 from stock to higjly moderate build.

That’s a build with new wheels, 33” tires, sliders, bumpers, OME suspension all around, UCAs, and more.

If you want to go that route, just take it to Slee and he knows the GX470s and can set you right.
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