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Could this be the source of my rear suspension chirps and squeaks? (Two lipped washers)
FAQ Thread Options for lifting a 200
Yep. I'd bet money on it.Paging @Taco2Cruiser
Could this be the source of my rear suspension chirps and squeaks? (Two lipped washers)
FAQ Thread Options for lifting a 200
I would monitor the Kings... a lot.Those lipped washers caused chirps and squeaks when I had BP-51 suspension on my 200. The King 2.5 suspension I replaced the BP-51 with did not have washers sandwiching the rear cross member like the BP-51, just rubber bushings on each side.
I noticed that on my kings as well. But I do think the OE setup with the lipped and flat washer will ultimately cut down on wear over a very long time frame. Longer than I plan to have my shocks on between rebuilds at least.Those lipped washers caused chirps and squeaks when I had BP-51 suspension on my 200. The King 2.5 suspension I replaced the BP-51 with did not have washers sandwiching the rear cross member like the BP-51, just rubber bushings on each side.
King is specific about not over tightening the nut.. I wonder if this is why.Yep. I'd bet money on it.
I would monitor the Kings... a lot.
I just replaced the rubber bushes with 4,000 miles on them. I can accept the top bush not having a metal washer, but the bottom bush NEEDS a metal washer on top. The cycling of the suspension causes this "racking" motion, and literally tears the bottom bush in half. Then you get a different clunk.
I've head of this, but now I'm starting to see the failures.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is the issue. I torque everything with two $1300 snap-on wrenches that get calibrated yearly and ran the calculation for the crowfoot I use to get in there.King is specific about not over tightening the nut.. I wonder if this is why.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is the issue. I torque everything with two $1300 snap-on wrenches that get calibrated yearly and ran the calculation for the crowfoot I use to get in there.
When the axle housing articulates, the housing shifts left and right. The top mount does not stay perfectly inline, it changes a few degrees. Pull the metal washer out of any other shock and you’ll see metal rub marks.
This is my issue with Kings. They make phenomenal shocks, but their integrating with stock trucks is meh.
Pulled these out last Thursday. 4,000 miles. Not at all the first time I’ve heard of this.
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Is that top and bottom for the struts? I ordered just the bottom at the recommendation of ARB. $124 for the pair of lower bearings.
That doeesn't look anything like the bushings on the Kings I got this winter. Mine are a black urethane with lips that center in the hole. And they are bracketed by blue aluminum cup washers. My bottom mounts are spherical bearings. I wonder if they made running changes?Unfortunately, I don't think that is the issue. I torque everything with two $1300 snap-on wrenches that get calibrated yearly and ran the calculation for the crowfoot I use to get in there.
When the axle housing articulates, the housing shifts left and right. The top mount does not stay perfectly inline, it changes a few degrees. Pull the metal washer out of any other shock and you’ll see metal rub marks.
This is my issue with Kings. They make phenomenal shocks, but their integrating with stock trucks is meh.
Pulled these out last Thursday. 4,000 miles. Not at all the first time I’ve heard of this.
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Yep, that's what the ones I pulled out looked like when new, and what the replacements looked like again. Wear in an amazing thing.That doeesn't look anything like the bushings on the Kings I got this winter. Mine are a black urethane with lips that center in the hole. And they are bracketed by blue aluminum cup washers. My bottom mounts are spherical bearings. I wonder if they made running changes?
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That doeesn't look anything like the bushings on the Kings I got this winter. Mine are a black urethane with lips that center in the hole. And they are bracketed by blue aluminum cup washers. My bottom mounts are spherical bearings. I wonder if they made running changes?
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After getting mine I almost felt bad putting mud on them. If I had unlimited money I’d have racing shocks on the wall of my shop for sure.Dang those are just works of art.
Unfortunately, I don't think that is the issue. I torque everything with two $1300 snap-on wrenches that get calibrated yearly and ran the calculation for the crowfoot I use to get in there.
When the axle housing articulates, the housing shifts left and right. The top mount does not stay perfectly inline, it changes a few degrees. Pull the metal washer out of any other shock and you’ll see metal rub marks.
This is my issue with Kings. They make phenomenal shocks, but their integrating with stock trucks is meh.
Pulled these out last Thursday. 4,000 miles. Not at all the first time I’ve heard of this.
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The 200 and the 5th gen 4Runner that I have personally seen both had adjustable panhards that were set up by me.I just had another thought.. would a lowered panhard bracket to improve panhard rod angle help out with this since the primary cause is the side-to-side movement of the axle?
I didn’t mean adjustable panhard length, I meant moving the frame side attachment point down so that it is level at ride height. This is done on many vehicles with lifts to keep the axle from jacking side to side on axle compression and rebound.. though the added bracket rarely seems as strong as the original point.The 200 and the 5th gen 4Runner that I have personally seen both had adjustable panhards that were set up by me.
I took the factory washer that sits on top of the lower bush and put it in the kings in the same spot. In other words, there is now a factory washer right under the frame's shock mount. We'll see in another 4k miles...