spare tire mount/carrier

[3_puppies]

so figured we should just start a new thread on this subject, good idea Mark.
Here are some pics for John, of my tire carrier. 1965 all original AFAIK.
and a pic of the lock feature.

 

[3_puppies]

pics of the swivel bolt on my 1967.

 

[Living in the Past]

Looks to me the lock doesn't really do anything. Seems if you unthread the nut that ring will just slide down. Or is there something on the thread to prevent it from sliding down I can't see.

My setup that is left looks pretty close to your 65 minus the lock ring. I'll try to remember and get pictures this weekend.

Looks like your handle tucks up nicely under your after market bumper. But that still leaves me with the question how hard is it to hold up while starting the nut?

My exhaust dumps out in front of the rear tire. I believe stock exhaust is inside the frame until after the rear tire. How big of a tire could you put up there with stock exhaust? Takeing my FJ55 spare tire carrier up to check it out. But it looks like it's centered. On pictures I've seen of the later FJ45s the opening for the rod handle for the winch is off to the right side not centered. Is the winch offset to the right to clear the exhaust on the later FJ45LP-Bs. A picture of that would be nice too from someone with a newer FJ45.

 

[whitey45]

Paul,looks like an original rk3 under there!

 

[JohnnyC]

very cool...thanks for posting up the pics....

x2 on the rk3

 

[Living in the Past]

Looking at that lock again I hope the collar does just slde off. The lock doesn't look like it would open even with the key. That look like a setup to keep honest people out and not crooks. You remove the cotter key and drive out the pin holding the bolt in and the whole thing would fall down lock or not.

Now for the tech part. Mine has most of this but the two spare I got with mine neither were in the carrier. One was bolted to the side of the bed and the other just loose. Is that rk3 tire just sandwiched between the bed and the tire carrier? On my that look like all it does.


John

 

[rutbeer]

that looks just like mine. the lock part is actually critical to making the unit work. Without the lock, you can pop the bolt backwards and the carrier will drop. The nut on the bottom of that bolt is really just for setting the height, but you would never really loosen it on a regular basis to get at the spare.

Sigh...I need to finish repairing mine. It's really the only thing left on my restoration, but I have yet to find a shop that can bend tube that tight and that small. I think the tie rod tube is pretty close in size, but that's all I have found. (PO torched one end off because it had gotten tweaked.

 

[Living in the Past]

Looking at the lock again I don't think it's doing any. Only looks like lock is around the loose piece. Nothing below it. I'll try to get pictures up of mine this weekend. No tire in the carrier but it's hasn't fallen down yet.

 

[wdukes]

tire size

I did spend considerable time and money collecting a couple of these things for my trucks. One issue I never addressed was adapting them to fit a larger tire. My plan was to add an extention to the tire holder where they bolt to the crossmember.....just a few inches of flat stock to allow the bigger tire. Anybody actually do this? I realize it really hurts ground clearance, but would be a better option than a tire in the bed for a street vehicle.

 

[Living in the Past]

I did spend considerable time and money collecting a couple of these things for my trucks. One issue I never addressed was adapting them to fit a larger tire. My plan was to add an extention to the tire holder where they bolt to the crossmember.....just a few inches of flat stock to allow the bigger tire. Anybody actually do this? I realize it really hurts ground clearance, but would be a better option than a tire in the bed for a street vehicle.

This is a interesting point you bring up. While I don't plan on puttin monster mudders on mine I do plan on putting something larger than stock.

When checking mine this weekend I found it mostly something the PO had made up. I can post pictures if anyone is interested. I still like the idea of the later winch type. Would really like pictures of the later ones in the FJ45. I also thing it would work better to install it when the bed is off and the exhaust run, Then figure where is the best place to install. Also thinking one from a 60 series would be better fit. Cut the passenger's side off to offset it to clear the exhaust.

Any body have any thoughts on this?

 

[3_puppies]

I haven't touched mine since I bought the rig last summer.
I don't think I'd trust the tire very far, many, many cracks in the thread, not even sure it has air in it.
It probably is original to the truck as I beleive the rig has less than 90,000 total miles.
Not sure if the lock is doing anything or not???
my exhaust, thinking again it's never been touched, crosses the frame in front of the spring hanger and curves out almost directly across from the spring hanger.
the later 45's used a winch setup? interesting, some of the Canadian guys should have pics, if there's aren't all frozen up with rust.

I can investigate mine more over Christmas layoff.

 

[65swb45]

I did spend considerable time and money collecting a couple of these things for my trucks. One issue I never addressed was adapting them to fit a larger tire. My plan was to add an extention to the tire holder where they bolt to the crossmember.....just a few inches of flat stock to allow the bigger tire. Anybody actually do this? I realize it really hurts ground clearance, but would be a better option than a tire in the bed for a street vehicle.

If you don't wheel the rig, what does it matter.

My 65swb is a It'll never see the dirt. I've got the RK3 in the carrier, and a 33x9.5 I got from GinericLC laying in the bed. Maybe I should be the one to try this?

All I need is some spare time!

 

[Living in the Past]

the later 45's used a winch setup? interesting, some of the Canadian guys should have pics, if there's aren't all frozen up with rust.

I can investigate mine more over Christmas layoff.

If you look above the license plate you can see where the handle goes to lower the spare tire. You can also see the chain and piece that fits inside the tire to lift it. I would really like pictures of the main piece that fits on the frame and also pictures of the stock exhaust to figure how to locate the carrier.


Weather should be find during your Christmas layoff. I know it was 82 here yesterday

 

[wdukes]

crank?

The model 45 that has the crank and chain is much newer and does not have the tire holder originally pictured.

 

[Living in the Past]

I still like the idea of the later winch type. Would really like pictures of the later ones in the FJ45. I also think it would work better to install it when the bed is off and the exhaust run, Then figure where is the best place to install. Also thinking one from a 60 series would be better fit. Cut the passenger's side off to offset it to clear the exhaust.

the later 45's used a winch setup? interesting, some of the Canadian guys should have pics, if there's aren't all frozen up with rust.

The model 45 that has the crank and chain is much newer and does not have the tire holder originally pictured.

I know this is a later FJ45LP-B but just talking about options of spare tire carriers. This is a stock spare tire carrier out of a 45. My after market bumper would make a stock 65 setup unlikely. You also brought up how the stock carrier would handle wider tires. Since the original F135 in mine was replaced with a 2F I'm not concerned about installing a 65 original tire carrier if a winch style would work better.

If this is not a good thread to post this information I will gladly delete my posts and start another spare tire carrier for the later models

 

[Living in the Past]

my exhaust, thinking again it's never been touched, crosses the frame in front of the spring hanger and curves out almost directly across from the spring hanger.

I can investigate mine more over Christmas layoff.

A couple of pictures of this would be great.

Here is the diagram 63-67 FJ45LP-B exhaust from SOR. Does your look like this? A picture of how it is routed compared to the spare tire would help alot.

 

[3_puppies]

A couple of pictures of this would be great.

Here is the diagram 63-67 FJ45LP-B exhaust from SOR. Does your look like this? A picture of how it is routed compared to the spare tire would help alot.

give me a few more days as I'm still in NJ, I should be home monday eve.

 

[3_puppies]

A couple of pictures of this would be great.

Here is the diagram 63-67 FJ45LP-B exhaust from SOR. Does your look like this? A picture of how it is routed compared to the spare tire would help alot.

finally....hope these help.

 

[Living in the Past]

Thanks these pictures are just what I'm looking for. I talked to a old friend today who is just finsihing his 45. He has a V8 but one of his biggest problem is the shop that installed his exhaust can't seem to get it right. Three times and it still doesn't clear his spare tire. He lives out of town and is hard of hearing so it was hard to get the full story. He is using the 60 series spare tire carrier. These pictures and the SOR diagram (which I think is from Toyota FSM or parts book) should be able to let a muffler shop how I what my exhaust run. Right now the exhaust tip runs out in front of the back tire.

 

[3_puppies]

it may not be very clear in the pic, but the pipe coming out of the muffler takes some odd bends to clear the sway bar.
if you need better pics let me know. I'll get to it eventually.
Paul