Slider Question

[srgould41]

I am fabbing up some sliders for my 40. I chose to bolt them up rather than weld to the frame. Originally I was going to bolt them to the frame by just going through the outer layer, however friends are telling me to weld some doublers inside and out to beef up the frame, then bolt all the way through.

Since the sliders are already welded (still need to cap off the open ends) I don't really want to cut the mount plates off and trim the frame mount tubes, re-weld, etc. Since these also bolt up to the body using the running board holes, moving the sliders out 1/8" and adding rubber between the L angle and body is not a bad idea.

So could I get away with welding 1/8" steel on the outboard side of the frame and 1/4" doublers on the inboard side?

By the way, I followed the contour of the running boards and will bolt them on top of the sliders. Should look nice as well as be strong.

 

[1Fine40]

I made some similar units, and backed up the bolts inside the outer part of the frame with 1/4" by about 2" squares. I used body seam sealer to go between the angle iron and the rockers. I think they are roughly the same concept as yours. Turned out nice in a silver vein powder coating!

Cheers

 

[srgould41]

Nice looking!

I made some similar units, and backed up the bolts inside the outer part of the frame with 1/4" by about 2" squares. I used body seam sealer to go between the angle iron and the rockers. I think they are roughly the same concept as yours. Turned out nice in a silver vein powder coating!

Cheers

 

[aggiecruiser]

Has anybody ever had problems in the past with bolting to the frame AND the body? Is there any potential for problems as a result of the body being able to move relative the frame via the soft body mounts. In other When the frame twists, the body will not necessarily have to twist in the same exact amount as a result of the body mounts being made of polyurethane.

I am not saying it IS a problem, I am more asking the question than anything.

I guess after thinking about it, the OEM steps mount the same way don't they?


-Chris

 

[srgould41]

That was my biggest concern for mounting to both locations and others have warned me not to do it. The running board does mount to the body, but not the frame.

I am not sure exactly what I am going to do now.

1fine40, have you had any issues with flex with your setup yet?

Has anybody ever had problems in the past with bolting to the frame AND the body? Is there any potential for problems as a result of the body being able to move relative the frame via the soft body mounts. In other When the frame twists, the body will not necessarily have to twist in the same exact amount as a result of the body mounts being made of polyurethane.

I am not saying it IS a problem, I am more asking the question than anything.

I guess after thinking about it, the OEM steps mount the same way don't they?


-Chris

 

[eleblanc]

This was discussed in my slider built thread,

https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/132646-sliders-question-2.html

Not shown in this thread is my frame to sliders bracing that i have now. I've wheel and smash the heck out of them and never had issue about the frame / body flex. But i'm not running any kind of longer body bushing!.

It is obvious there will be some flex, but it should not do damage, except if you have 1/8" of bondo on the rocker panels like i do, it will probably crack.

But note that i have also installed a angle inside the body for better rigidity you should see that in the pictures.

Has anybody ever had problems in the past with bolting to the frame AND the body? Is there any potential for problems as a result of the body being able to move relative the frame via the soft body mounts. In other When the frame twists, the body will not necessarily have to twist in the same exact amount as a result of the body mounts being made of polyurethane.

I am not saying it IS a problem, I am more asking the question than anything.

I guess after thinking about it, the OEM steps mount the same way don't they?


-Chris

 

[ibinazbass]

the factory running boards are mounted to the frame and the body so i wouldnt imagine there would be too much of a problem there...

 

[srgould41]

That is true, however they have a cushion in there just like the body mounts. Not much, and mine was hard as rock, but still a cushion

the factory running boards are mounted to the frame and the body so i wouldnt imagine there would be too much of a problem there...

 

[1Fine40]

That was my biggest concern for mounting to both locations and others have warned me not to do it. The running board does mount to the body, but not the frame.

I am not sure exactly what I am going to do now.

1fine40, have you had any issues with flex with your setup yet?

No problems as of yet...took a couple real hard hits two weekends ago, and it is still just fine on the top side...the bottom has a healthy scape, but who cares...the rocker is intact!

Cheers