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Ok i've got the 92 6 in lift 36 in tires. At what angle should I start to be getting scared that it might roll over. I'm going to get an inclometer for it soon so i'm just wondering what everyone thinks:grinpimp:
 
my setup is a little lower than you (2.5" HD w/ spacers and body lift, 33", no sway bars) but I was spotted into a 30* side hill situation at the waterfall on Poison Spider Mesa during CM'07. It was a little unnerving but not bad. I can't say I'd like to try much more than ~33*. I'd like to keep shark fins in the ocean not in my seat.

It depends a lot on how the rest of your rig is kitted out (roof rack, no swaybars, tire on roof, etc).
 
There is no limit. It just happens. When I rolled it just happened no warning at all. I was climbing a ledge. Next thing I know I was going over. An inclometer is useless. It won't prevent you from rolling. You never look at it when you are going over. Why bother? it's too late anyways. Anytime you wheel you are at risk. Best advice is keep the COG as low as possible. That should limit it. A sprung over 60 on 35's is pure suicide IMO!
 
my setup is a little lower than you (2.5" HD w/ spacers and body lift, 33", no sway bars) but I was spotted into a 30* side hill situation at the waterfall on Poison Spider Mesa during CM'07. It was a little unnerving but not bad. I can't say I'd like to try much more than ~33*. I'd like to keep shark fins in the ocean not in my seat.

It depends a lot on how the rest of your rig is kitted out (roof rack, no swaybars, tire on roof, etc).

lets just say we were real close to flopping :D
 
Ok i've got the 92 6 in lift 36 in tires. At what angle should I start to be getting scared that it might roll over. I'm going to get an inclometer for it soon so i'm just wondering what everyone thinks:grinpimp:

lt1...
You're close to Gorman, have you ever been to the "practice area" hill and obstacles? It's a good place to go to check things like this. You can get progressively tippier on side-hills and still have a drive-out if you can react that quick. It helps to (1) get your nerve up, and (2) check the inclinometer yourself.

I agree that the inclinometer is not the first thing you're looking at when you're all tippy and stuff, but it's fun to know where your pucker factor starts.

I've had my 80 (2.5" on 285's, roof rack with hi-lift on top) at 30deg and found that's where the pucker factor kicks in. Your's will likely be different - more or less!

Dan.
 
Chris is right on. Sort of what I was getting at. It depends on each and every truck and each situation. Maybe 30* is your magic number or 40*. Had I continued to listen to the spotter I can guarantee you I would not have looked at my gauge to see where we were.

Jim,
I know, I know it could have ended with lots o bent sheet metal and one pissed wife. I'm just glad I stopped where we were and that Nathaniel & Brent had a quick plan that worked.
 
Chris is right on. Sort of what I was getting at. It depends on each and every truck and each situation. Maybe 30* is your magic number or 40*. Had I continued to listen to the spotter I can guarantee you I would not have looked at my gauge to see where we were.

Jim,
I know, I know it could have ended with lots o bent sheet metal and one pissed wife. I'm just glad I stopped where we were and that Nathaniel & Brent had a quick plan that worked.


quick thinking was key.

may ballast also! :doh:
 
I've been at 33 degrees. I doubt it would have gone further.

-Spike
 
took mine a coupla times around 30 deg. And many times around 25deg. With a heavy roof rack too. Didn't feel that tippy yet. I'm carrying a little portable angle finder so I can amuse myself on camber trails...:) I'm getting used more and more to the side tilt, actually. Maybe not such a good thing? Yours is quite a bit higher so the above may not be applicable to you as far as safe angles.
 
weight transfer was the magic words here. If you carry momentum and hit a bump off camber you can go tits up faster. I have been close about 3-4 times so far. I am very tall as well (6", 37s) and I have managed to stay wheels down so far.

Of course, GSMTR is next week! :)
 
There is no limit. It just happens. When I rolled it just happened no warning at all. I was climbing a ledge. Next thing I know I was going over. An inclometer is useless. It won't prevent you from rolling. You never look at it when you are going over. Why bother? it's too late anyways. Anytime you wheel you are at risk. Best advice is keep the COG as low as possible. That should limit it. A sprung over 60 on 35's is pure suicide IMO!

Exactly, I have seen rigs roll at 15 degrees when the started sliding sideways and then caught on a rock or rutt and flop they were over. I did a slow flop over on my pass side on a waterfall at 40 degrees, laid onto the rock wall and only broke the mirror and put a dent in the quarter panel.
 
I've been to 36 degrees. But really the whole thing is stupid. Momentum, Traction, and balance have just as much to do with a rollover as does the degree.
 
I've only wheeled my new 80 twice now (6" lift and 35s with sway bars). I was very impressed with the speed you can run non technical trails in comfort with handling. I was also surprised at the flex and capability compared to my tracker. The part I'll have to get used to is the slinky feeing, off camber stuff and muddy hill climbs that send you sideways make me nervous, I'll definitely have to change my style of wheeling to adjust for the higher center of gravity and weight.
 
I thank everyone for all of the input and I am going to go gorman within the next month
 
that video of (I think) somewhere in the Middle East with the guy climbing the face, being stopped at the top, and gunning right out of there upon rollover time comes to mind as required viewing before you go and experiment.... :D
 
my setup is a little lower than you (2.5" HD w/ spacers and body lift, 33", no sway bars) but I was spotted into a 30* side hill situation at the waterfall on Poison Spider Mesa during CM'07. It was a little unnerving but not bad. I can't say I'd like to try much more than ~33*. I'd like to keep shark fins in the ocean not in my seat.

It depends a lot on how the rest of your rig is kitted out (roof rack, no swaybars, tire on roof, etc).

Is this you? If so I was a couple behind you in the Black LX450...Thought you were going over for sure...Nice to have a trail leader with Army recovery experience eh? :D

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80 on waterfall.jpg
 
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you just have to drive by the seat of your pants and know your vehicle. there is not true definitive angle that you'll roll at. It all depends on weight distribution and center of gravity. work on more mild off camber situations to find out what you feel comfortable with, if you don't like how it feels don't do it. but you usually wont know how far is too far until you get there. :grinpimp::beer:
 
Is this you? If so I was a couple behind you in the Black LX450...Thought you were going over for sure...Nice to have a trail leader with Army recovery experience eh? :D

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Yup, that's him. I would definitely be pulling pieces of seat from my bum if I were in that situation.

:cheers:
 
off camber scares me the most. i think i need to start on slight off camber situation and work up the comfort level. i find the hardest part when you have to turn uphill while off camber like in the photo above.

YIKES
 

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