Road Trip Report 2020 LC200. (Michelin, Bora, Westcott, Gobi, Budbuilt, Pedal Commander)

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Just returned from a nearly 3k mile road trip through the Canadian Maritimes. Having followed many of the threads in regards to my specific accessories, I thought it may be helpful to report back on my experiences with each. Driving was approx 80% highway, 15% city and side roads and 5% Forest Service type travel. We experienced flooding, rock slides, ice and snow storms and even a bombogenesis event. Also saw the Northern Lights, lots of pack ice and some caribou, so that was kind of fun.

Michelin Defender LTX 275/70r18's were as quiet and smooth as stock, but were much more capable and confidence-inspiring in the wet and snow-pack. Ran them at 41psi per @gaijin, and while the ride was firm, it was never jarring (and the potholes in eastern Canada are no joke). The psi barely wavered a pound or two between cold starts (0F) and all day running (40F) temps.

Westcott Designs Pre-Load Collars add 3" in front and 1.25" in rear. While these don't change any of the factory suspension geometry, they most certainly change the ride quality by effectively removing the rake. Cornering, braking and acceleration were all improved, and being able to easily recover after putting a wheel off a soft shoulder was comforting. I did have an alignment before leaving. Also, the collars require 1.25 spacers. I have Bora's and had no tire or wheel issues whatsoever.


Westcott Designs 3/4 Rack w/out basket floor. I mostly like the design of this rack (although for clearing snow, it's brutal). For my purposes (fishing gear and beach toys), it's all I need in terms of weight-bearing. It was quick and easy to install (45 mins), although I did have to trim one of the plastic oem rear leg covers to fit back on. It's very low profile, extremely light and doesn't require removing or installing any bolts. It is finished beautifully in a matte black powder coat, and the heavy duty wind fairing is cut to fit snugly against the roof just rearward of the sunroof. I didn't know it was there tbh. No rattle and when I returned everything was still snuggled up tight.

Gobi Ladder presented no problems. I was a bit concerned because mine is installed without the inside set screw on the bottom. I couldn't quite get it seated without the risk of clipping the pinch plate, so I left it off. The ladder is so light and comes with adhesive pads that keep it in place. As those adhesives pads break down, there may be reason for concern in the future. While I couldn't trace any noise to the Westcott Roof Rack, I could hear the Gobi Ladder at times. It whistled a bit in strong crosswinds, and the top of the ladder is at a 90 to the roof, so it creates a bit of mountain-wave buffering. Minor on both accounts imo, though.

Budbuilt skid plates are obviously super burly and extremely well designed. I thankfully didn't need them on this trip and only have them for occasional logs and flotsam on the beach. I don't have a piece that attaches to the trailing edge of the front bumper fairing, so they do manage to trap a bit of dirt and sand in there. I only discovered it when I raised the truck for a good undercarriage wash and oil change upon returning home. By no means is it a concern, just an observation. They are bomber and make changing the oil a snap.

The 600 lb gorilla of course are the current gas prices. A liter of regular in Eastern Canada was averaging $1.72 cad. Converted to $1.37 per liter usd and 1 liter = .26 gallons, it came to approx $5.40 per gallon. Not that out of line with what we are seeing in the Northeast, but plenty painful nonetheless. The Pedal Commander came in handy as I was able to drive the long stretches of flat, open road in eco mode. I averaged 12.6 mpg for 2900 miles of varied conditions.

Sorry for the long-winded observations, but hopefully there is a nugget or two that helps someone make a decision. I know this site has helped me immensely, and it's appreciated.






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Great looking setup, fun to see another MA plate on a 200 👍
 
Just returned from a nearly 3k mile road trip through the Canadian Maritimes. Having followed many of the threads in regards to my specific accessories, I thought it may be helpful to report back on my experiences with each. Driving was approx 80% highway, 15% city and side roads and 5% Forest Service type travel. We experienced flooding, rock slides, ice and snow storms and even a bombogenesis event. Also saw the Northern Lights, lots of pack ice and some caribou, so that was kind of fun.

Michelin Defender LTX 275/70r18's were as quiet and smooth as stock, but were much more capable and confidence-inspiring in the wet and snow-pack. Ran them at 41psi per @gaijin, and while the ride was firm, it was never jarring (and the potholes in eastern Canada are no joke). The psi barely wavered a pound or two between cold starts (0F) and all day running (40F) temps.

Westcott Designs Pre-Load Collars add 3" in front and 1.25" in rear. While these don't change any of the factory suspension geometry, they most certainly change the ride quality by effectively removing the rake. Cornering, braking and acceleration were all improved, and being able to easily recover after putting a wheel off a soft shoulder was comforting. I did have an alignment before leaving. Also, the collars require 1.25 spacers. I have Bora's and had no tire or wheel issues whatsoever.


Westcott Designs 3/4 Rack w/out basket floor. I mostly like the design of this rack (although for clearing snow, it's brutal). For my purposes (fishing gear and beach toys), it's all I need in terms of weight-bearing. It was quick and easy to install (45 mins), although I did have to trim one of the plastic oem rear leg covers to fit back on. It's very low profile, extremely light and doesn't require removing or installing any bolts. It is finished beautifully in a matte black powder coat, and the heavy duty wind fairing is cut to fit snugly against the roof just rearward of the sunroof. I didn't know it was there tbh. No rattle and when I returned everything was still snuggled up tight.

Gobi Ladder presented no problems. I was a bit concerned because mine is installed without the inside set screw on the bottom. I couldn't quite get it seated without the risk of clipping the pinch plate, so I left it off. The ladder is so light and comes with adhesive pads that keep it in place. As those adhesives pads break down, there may be reason for concern in the future. While I couldn't trace any noise to the Westcott Roof Rack, I could hear the Gobi Ladder at times. It whistled a bit in strong crosswinds, and the top of the ladder is at a 90 to the roof, so it creates a bit of mountain-wave buffering. Minor on both accounts imo, though.

Budbuilt skid plates are obviously super burly and extremely well designed. I thankfully didn't need them on this trip and only have them for occasional logs and flotsam on the beach. I don't have a piece that attaches to the trailing edge of the front bumper fairing, so they do manage to trap a bit of dirt and sand in there. I only discovered it when I raised the truck for a good undercarriage wash and oil change upon returning home. By no means is it a concern, just an observation. They are bomber and make changing the oil a snap.

The 600 lb gorilla of course are the current gas prices. A liter of regular in Eastern Canada was averaging $1.72 cad. Converted to $1.37 per liter usd and 1 liter = .26 gallons, it came to approx $5.40 per gallon. Not that out of line with what we are seeing in the Northeast, but plenty painful nonetheless. The Pedal Commander came in handy as I was able to drive the long stretches of flat, open road in eco mode. I averaged 12.6 mpg for 2900 miles of varied conditions.

Sorry for the long-winded observations, but hopefully there is a nugget or two that helps someone make a decision. I know this site has helped me immensely, and it's appreciated.






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i'm considering the same westcott rack and would appreciate a few more pics, including from above, if you'd be so kind. thx
 
How does a lift regardless if it’s a spacer, spring pre-tension, or coilovers not change geometry?
 
Not great detail pics, but happy to follow up by dm tomorrow if needed.View attachment 2969153View attachment 2969155View attachment 2969156
I wasn't aware of this rack, now I'm interested.


I wish the webpage had more info though. Approx how big is it? How much higher is it above the factory rails?

Do you think it would be able to support carrying a few sheets of plywood or drywall?
 
Nice Setup! I will be doing almost the exact same setup but I’m going to try to get Defender 295/70r18’s under it. I might also opt for the bronze rack as well. Westcott also told me they might be able to do a set of their slider in bronze too, but I’m on the fence because I want their slider to come in a 15 degree angle like some of their other ones.
 
Nice Setup! I will be doing almost the exact same setup but I’m going to try to get Defender 295/70r18’s under it. I might also opt for the bronze rack as well. Westcott also told me they might be able to do a set of their slider in bronze too, but I’m on the fence because I want their slider to come in a 15 degree angle like some of their other ones.
Good luck with the 295/70r18. That’s my tire size of choice as well. If you’re running oem wheels, definitely make sure to get 1.25” spacers(my current setup) but even then it will rub the sway bar. I’m test fitting a 295/70r18 revo3 on Monday. It’s pretty equal “maybe” to the Mich Defender but offers a nicer sidewall. I know the Revo3 won’t last as long but I’m ok with that. I know very little about tires compared to some others on here but I’m hoping they will just kiss the sway bar so it’s not an annoying or bigger issue which I definitely want to avoid.
 
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Westcott claims 295/70r18 and I figure the Defenders have the least aggressive shoulder of most tires and the best chance of fitting.

I have Bora 1” spacers now, but will probably move to Spidertrax because the Bora fit and finish suck.
 
Westcott claims 295/70r18 and I figure the Defenders have the least aggressive shoulder of most tires and the best chance of fitting.

I have Bora 1” spacers now, but will probably move to Spidertrax because the Bora fit and finish suck.
I’m just not sure how they were able to get those Toyo open country to work without rubbing. I feel like they might be blowing a little smoke. It probably doesn’t rub until you go in a full turn reverse or forward full lock turn. Let us know how it works out for you. The defenders have a rounded shoulder, so that should help a little compared to the squared off shoulders.

I’ll save about 6lbs a tire if I get the 295/70 Revo3 work compared my ridge grapplers. Should help with mpg slightly
 
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Westcott claims 295/70r18 and I figure the Defenders have the least aggressive shoulder of most tires and the best chance of fitting.
Westcott also claims you don’t need UCAs for their lift.. sure, as long as you don’t mind your geometry being off.
 

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