RMLCA Alexander Mackenzie Trail Expedition 2017

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ericbirk said:
Based on the attendee list I'm guessing its full up?
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If you are interested, I would invite you to throw down with your expression of interest. We will make a decision by end of March on the exact attendance. But yes, it's looking pretty full right now, however there's usually a few who have to drop out for some reason, so we might act like an airline and oversell this trip knowing that some will have to bail.
 
cruiseroutfit said:
Alexander Mackenzie Heritage Trail 2016 - Expedition Portal
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Great read. Makes me so excited!

It also reiterates my relatively high 'equipment' list requirements re tires, lockers, winches and snorkels. This team with 4 well prepared but 'stockish' trucks were unable to complete the trail in a week! If we actually want to finish the trail in 1 week, we will need to be prepared to 'just drive through' many of the obstacles where they spent a lot of time executing recoveries.

Hmmm.... I wonder if I should bring Shaker, instead of Zelda!
 
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I am sorting out steering and waiting for shocks to arrive. Then a short trip to make sure it is dialed-ish. My issue with this trip will be food storage since I dont have a fridge, hoping to borrow one, and fuel capacity. I will have to fab up a roof rack for extra cans.
Other than that I would LOVE to put my name in for this one!!
 
Hi Everyone. Welcome to March 31! The date I promised that we would officially let everyone know who is in, and who is out.

And the winner is... everyone! well, everyone that has officially submitted their expression of interest. I have updated the first post with the official list participants.

Next step is a detailed planning... ensuring we have just the right amount of things... fuel, tools, spare parts, and food. To get that started, let's do a more detailed description of our vehicles and base equipment... Please share the following about what you are bringing. This will help with our initial planning. I will go first:

Vehicle: 1988 HJ61 "Zelda"
People: Peter and Tanis
First Aid Certifications: None
Primary Fuel Capacity: 200L
Extra Fuel Capacity: N/A
Tires: 10.5R20 Continetal MPT81 (37") with inner air locks
Lockers: Detroit Rear/ARB Front
Winch Type: 24V 8274
Snorkel: Yes
HAM: VA6TPR
Radio: Yaesu FT 8900
Satellite Phone: None
Spot tracker (or equivalent): None
Air Compressor Type: Yes. Sanden PTO driven
Welder: Yes: Ready Welder
Inverter: Yes: 1750 watt
Fridge/Freezer: 45L Engel Fridge, 30L Dometic Freezer
Water capacity: 40L
Water Filtration Capacity: None
Chainsaw Type: Stihl MS361
Trail Trailer: None
Other Useful things: Tire Irons, Pair of Maxtracks
 
Let's talk about Fuel.

As near as I can tell, there is no place to fuel up along the trail.
It appears to be about 180 km of trail, and I expect +/- 200 km to/from the trail to the nearest fuel at either end. So... one should be prepared to carry enough fuel for 200km of gravel/forest road, + 180km of trail over ~5 days.

How much is that... Loewenstein recollects that at the last ACT he attended which will be very similar conditions, the old school gassers (i.e. 22R/2F/V8) units were getting ~1.5 MPG, while his 3B-T was getting about 3 of those so called "MPG's" In real units, that's a whopping 156 lph for gassers, and 78 lph for a diesel.

Some math...
diesel: (180km x 78 lph trail) + (200km x 14 lph gravel) = (140l trail) +(28L road) = 168 Liters.
Gasser: (180km x 156 lph trail) + (200km x 18 lph gravel) = (280l trail) +(36L road) = 316 Liters.

It looks like Thrillbilly does have a gasser along for this trip, so we will need to consider fuel....

Some options:
Best Option: Carry enough onboard. Share the loads. Maybe bring one trailer along for fuel/water/tools/spares.
Another Option: Stash a fuel Cache mid-way through the trail. Probably a trailer. Might be very insecure if we cannot find a friendly place to secure it for us, and will require a dedicated trip ahead of time to stash the trailer and get back to the start of the trail.
Yet another option: plan for a fuel run, much like Kurt and team did. Means leaving the trail and back-tracking along forestry roads to re-supply.

Thoughts?
 
Vehicle: 1981 BJ42 "Steve"
People: Kevin and Jackson
First Aid Certifications: None
Primary Fuel Capacity: 90L
Extra Fuel Capacity: 60L
Tires: 33x10.5 BFG KM2's on stock steelies
Lockers: ARB Front & Rear
Winch Type: 12V 8274
Snorkel: Yes
HAM: VA6KVN
Radio: Yaesu FT 8900
Satellite Phone: None
Spot tracker (or equivalent): None
Air Compressor Type: Yes. ARB twin 24V
Welder: No
Inverter: Yes: 600 watt
Fridge/Freezer: 50L National Luna Weekender Fridge/ Freezer
Water capacity: 20L x 3
Water Filtration Capacity: None
Chainsaw Type: Stihl MS271
Trail Trailer: Yes, if needed
Other Useful things: Tire Irons, chain saw sharpener, Baileys, Rum, Whiskey
 
Fuel talk; I will carry mine, as much as I can. In cans.
 
Any chance I could throw in as well. Like I mentioned above I have some work to do but am extremely interested in this trip!
I do understand if it is just too many trucks as 8 is alot!

Vehicle: 1995 FZJ80
People: Eric and someone...
First Aid Certifications: basic first aid and basic kit
Primary Fuel Capacity: 90L
Extra Fuel Capacity: currently 40L, going to build a rack to carry an extra 120L
Tires: 315-75 16 Toyo MT's
Lockers: ARB Rear, open front
Winch Type: 12V Titan 12k
Snorkel: Yes
HAM: no
Radio: just a CB currently
Satellite Phone: None
Spot tracker (or equivalent): yes
Air Compressor Type: Yes. Puma 12v
Welder: No
Inverter: Could if req, 1000 watt just not installed.
Fridge/Freezer: Just a cooler currently,hoping to borrow a 50L ARB
Water capacity: 20L x 2 or 3 will depend on rack
Water Filtration Capacity: meaning to pickup something in the next month
Chainsaw Type: Stihl MS271
Trail Trailer:
Other Useful things: fire extinguisher, 60" highlift, GPS with Patchmaps on it, willing to be a fuel pack mule if needed.
 
ericbirk said:
Any chance I could throw in as well.
Radio: just a CB currently
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Hi Eric,
Will you have a 2m/vhf radio with external antenna? all comms will be on amatuer band 146.445 and is mandatory equipment for this trip.
 
Hello folks,
So here is my info below...
Vehicle: 1991 HDJ81
People: Alex and Rugena (:princess:)
First Aid Certifications: Rugena is a Registered Nurse so we have quite a comprehensive first aid kit
Primary Fuel Capacity: 95L
Extra Fuel Capacity: going to build a rack to carry 5-6 jerrys
Tires: 255/80/-17 Cooper ST Maxx
Lockers: OEM front, rear, and center
Winch Type: AISIN A1000
Snorkel: Yes
HAM: VE6COM
Radio: iCom IC-F320-6
Satellite Phone: N/A
Spot tracker (or equivalent): N/A
Air Compressor Type: N/A
Welder: No
Inverter: N/A
Fridge/Freezer: Engel MT60F-U1-COMBI
Water capacity: 40L
Water Filtration Capacity: N/A
Chainsaw Type: N/A
Trail Trailer: none
Other Useful things: fire extinguishers, Garmin Oregon 600t with BC Backroads v4 on it, 1 set of Maxtrax (looking to get another one for the trip)

Regarding fuel, at this point I believe that the most viable option is to carry the necessary fuel with us.
 
Tismin said:
Chainsaw Type: N/A
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A chainsaw per vehicle is mandatory equipment... there's at least one 'loaner' available that I know of that has been offered up in our club. Contact me directly for more info....

Tismin said:
Other Useful things:Garmin Oregon 600t with BC Backroads v4 on it
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I just purchased the hard copy of the BC Backroad book with physical topo maps for the trail. Excellent 'overview'. I notice now that the backroads people want an extra $150 for the garmin maps of the trail. Necessary navigation tools, I will likely make the same purchase.


Tismin said:
Other Useful things:1 set of Maxtrax (looking to get another one for the trip)
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I also have one pair. I think Ryan Barnes does too. If we had 8 tracks (4 pair total) and four helpers to relocate tracks every 2 feet, then it is possible to 'bridge' a vehicle across nasty sections of muskeg without causing terrible rut damage from getting stuck/winching. 4 pairs of tracks along for this trip would be ideal.
 
Behemoth60 said:
I also have one pair. I think Ryan Barnes does too. If we had 8 tracks (4 pair total) and four helpers to relocate tracks every 2 feet, then it is possible to 'bridge' a vehicle across nasty sections of muskeg without causing terrible rut damage from getting stuck/winching. 4 pairs of tracks along for this trip would be ideal.
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A crew from last year used multiple mats to help them cross some of the areas. It was on Overland Canada, but looks like
the site has been suspended?? Damn. I was going to post a link

Update: Alexander Mackenzie info
 
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Geez, I wish I could change my schedule...The more I see you getting ready the more I wish I could go.
 
Vehicle: 94 Toyota extended cab flat deck "Scooby"
People:Bryan, passenger TBA
First Aid Certifications: recently certified in basic first aid- god help us if I'm the only one...
Primary Fuel Capacity: 65L
Extra Fuel Capacity: Jerry can city
Tires: 33x10.50 MTR with kevlar (That might change)
Lockers: cable locker rear
Winch Type: none
Snorkel: Yes
HAM: VA6BRY- but not licenced
Radio: handheld with soon to be external antena
Satellite Phone: None
Spot tracker (or equivalent): None
Air Compressor Type: Yes. 12 volt tornado
Welder: none
Inverter: Yes: 150 watt
Fridge/Freezer: 45L Engel Fridge,
Water capacity: 20L
Water Filtration Capacity: huh?
Chainsaw Type: Husky 360 18 inch blade
Trail Trailer: None
Other Useful things: Experience- quaded and fished this trail in 1999, Tire Irons, bubba rope, Remington 870 12 gauge defender. Fly rod, fire grill, booster cables, 2 spare tires

Bryan
 
Planning Meeting!

What: Meeting to plan details of the RMLCA Alexander Mackenzie trip
When: Tuesday, June 6, 6 PM
Where: Atlas Pizza: Google Maps
Who: Mackenzie Trail Participants, hangers on, hecklers, and helpers
Why: To plan some details and logistics including : Set expectations, Trail Etiquette and Trip ground rules. Commuting to/from trail, camping at end/beginning of trail, shared equipment, tools, spare parts. Communal kitchen/cooking. Look at maps.

Results of planning meeting will be posted here for those that cannot attend.
 
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