RMLCA Alexander Mackenzie Trail Expedition 2017

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which way did Alexander Mackenzie go? ;)

First, he went West to East, but then he did it again, East to West.
Frankly, I don't know why he didn't take Highway 20 back to Williams lake but he was notoriously terrible at navigating... during his first attempt to get to bella coola, he took a wrong turn and ended up in Tuktoyaktuk. And for some reason, they named a whole river as a result, but I suppose because "Spectacularly-wrong-turn river" has too many letters to fit on the map.
 
Some details for programming your ham radio's...

146.445: RMLCA's standard truck to truck simplex communications channel
146.460 BC4x4 seems to have decided that is the 'default' frequency for us off-roaders.
147.2100+ VE7RES: Repeater for coordinating everyone to our rendezvous point. I will be monitoring this.
 
FYI.... and if your interested....I doubt there will be any logging truck traffic, maybe few gravel trucks but with the exception of a few narrow corners it is all fairly wide high grade gravel, but if anybody happens to have a VHF road radio it's the West Fraser- Blackwater Channel. 153.125 on the Batununi FSR
 
To further the discussion about which direction we go, this is the link to the write-up from Coastal Cruiser's 2013 trip from West to East.
Alexander Mackenzie Trail - 2013
 
I am sitting down tomorrow to plan our entire trip. Doesnt look like the ferry from Bella Coola will ve an option. Its full, and will cost $800 for 2 people and my rig...
Any option of discussion will be doing the run in reverse and heading to the island from Quesnel afterwards.
 
Hi my name is Glenn Bridges and I am live in Kelowna. I thought I could provide some intel on your Mackenzie trip. I went through the Mackenzie in 2010 and 2013 in my BJ74, which is a well suited truck for this type of trip (good on fuel and narrow). The first trip was in 2010 from East to West starting at the Backroads Mapbook denoted trail head at the Fraser River through to Gatcho Lake, the westernmost limit of motorized travel. The second trip in 2013, was from West to East, starting at Gatcho Lake to the more common trail head at Titetown Lake off the Batnuni FSR. It should be noted that the portion of trail between Gatcho and Eliguk Lake is a walking trail only, so motorized traffic must use the Krestinuk's Wagon Road, which is an epic piece of the trail in my opinion.

Due to the difficulty of the western portion of the trail, the West to East route may provide a higher probability of completing the entire trail for several reasons. This route encounters the toughest parts of the trail first, when spirits, energy and fuel reserves are still high, as well as offering multiple emergency bailout points at Rainbow Lake (to Anahim Lake), Messue Crossing (north to Vanderhoof) and Kluskus Village via 4000 rd to Nasko (for fuel). One more point - there is really no single route over some segments of this trail and is actually an interwoven trail system as many bypasses have been cut to avoid 'burns' and other obstacles over the years.

Here are a few comments on preliminaries that some may find helpful in trip preparations.

Saws
High quality chainsaws in excellent condition are critical. Based on two trips - we found that Stihl and Husqavarna are the best and most reliability, while others (e.g. Poulin, Sears, etc.) suffered too much downtime. I recommend a bar no longer 14"- 16", because the trees are not large and wielding a long bar after many hours can be hazardous to the operator and others as it often gets caught in overhead snags and is more difficult to manipulate in awkward quarters. I would recommend bringing new saw files and new chains for all saws and a few plastic wedges. Make sure everyone knows how to sharpen their chains properly as there some skill involved in getting them sharp. Dull chains are very slow and inefficient. Machetes are not safe and require a lot of precious energy to cut branches as compared to tree pruners. I always carry a small Fiskar tree pruner (cuts up to 1.25" stuff), which is useful in getting your door open.

Fuel
As discussed the trail requires a lot fuel. Fuel use depends on how wet the trail and amount of windfall. The wetter the trail the more fuel required. It looks like the trail is wetter in recent years than on any of my previous trips. For both trips, I carried an extra 40 litres with a 130 litre total for a fuel efficient 13BT. The FJ Cruiser carried an extra 160 litres for a total 230 litres. Last available fuel (West to East) is Anahim Lake and (East to West) at Nazko (or Sylvia's). Call ahead in all cases.

Food
For the West to East route - buy all your food in Williams Lake, as there is no fresh food along Hwy 20. Some food is available in Anahim Lake, but selection is poor. From East to West - load up in Quesnel. One option I used in 2010, was to use the ARB fridge/freezer as a dedicated freezer and recycle ice to a large cooler, which I used as my 'fridge'. Recycle ice in the morning so the truck is running all day and put that night's dinner in the cooler. Thawing food helps in the cooler.

Water
The water in the Blackwater drainage has a very high organic content - hence the name Blackwater. I had a MSR water filter, but the water has such a high organic content it plugs the filters. To extend my good quality potable water supply, I carried a separate non-potable water container collected when the water looked clean along the way for washing and rinsing. The water in the community of Anahim Lake has a very high iron content and should be avoided.

Bugs
They are bad. I carried two Thermacells (lots of extra pads and fuel), traditional mosquito coils in the metal container, DEET spray in both truck doors and several fly squatters. My truck had mosquito netting on my two side windows. About 30 minutes before going to bed I lit a mosquito coil in my truck and slept with a fly squatter close at hand. In really bad situations I put on my baggy mosquito hoody to get some relief while trying to eat.

Trail Damage
The most common trail damage are sticks through sidewalls (we destroyed 4 tires in 2013), dents and door creases, mirrors ripped off, burnt out winch solenoids/motors, broken limb risers to name a few. In 2013 a stick went through a radiator of an HDJ81, which we pulled out an JB welded overnight.

I can post more trail specific info if you guys are interested.
 
Fuel
As discussed the trail requires a lot fuel. Fuel use depends on how wet the trail and amount of windfall. The wetter the trail the more fuel required. It looks like the trail is wetter in recent years than on any of my previous trips. For both trips, I carried an extra 40 litres with a 130 litre total for a fuel efficient 13BT. The FJ Cruiser carried an extra 160 litres for a total 230 litres. Last available fuel (West to East) is Anahim Lake and (East to West) at Nazko (or Sylvia's). Call ahead in all cases.

Thanks for the info Glenn, greatly appreciated.
Do you remember off hand if the 230L of fuel for the FJ was fairly on par for the conditions that year?
Just trying to gauge just how bad my 1FZ is going to be!!
 
Thanks for the info Glenn, greatly appreciated.
Do you remember off hand if the 230L of fuel for the FJ was fairly on par for the conditions that year?
Just trying to gauge just how bad my 1FZ is going to be!!

I may be wrong but I think the online write up on a forum commented on that. it's gonna be bad man... but fun
 
Any consensus on the direction of travel?
Indeed it is time to make a decision. It seems there are 2 votes in favour of West to East, supported by valid arguments. There was an offline vote for a East to West, just because. Everyone else abstained from comment.

So, the decision is made, we will travel West to East. This changes all of the logistics and plans and meeting points and adds 6 hours of travel time and means any visit to Bella Cools would likely come pre-trip.

I will loook at the calendar and maps and provide revised rendezvous details.
 
Doing the trail either way.... IMHO I do not think your your 8 day time slot will allow enough time to visit the Bella Coola Valley and complete the trail, including travel. Here are some additional suggestion...

Saw Access
Getting the chainsaw from the side or rear of a truck when it is needed upfront (every 50') becomes a 'pain' real fast. A great labor saving mod is to build a front mounted chainsaw scabbard, with a quick deployment secure tie-down system. Don't drive over it!

Recovery
On the trail the recovery vehicle will often have poor traction so a kinetic recovery strap, typically white nylon is more effective than the yellow tow straps often used. A 2" strap rated at 18,000 lb has worked well for me. If the strap is too big it will not stretch properly.

MaxTrac
The MaxTrac recommendation of Kurt's is a great idea for the Mackenzie although they are expensive. According some Australian reviews the cheaper ones don't stack well or melt from spinning tires.
 
I may be wrong but I think the online write up on a forum commented on that. it's gonna be bad man... but fun

I know it will be bad. I have built in storage for 8 x 20L cans. I dont want to lash more up there if I dont have to. Cant find any reference on what the FJ used anywhere. Was hoping Glenn may have a better idea.
 
You should be fine... uncertainty is part of the 'adventure' of the trail... My suggestion is that the gasser stay at the back of the pack ... via radio get an estimate of delay (there will be a predictable pattern)- shut off engine (saves maybe 1.5/l per hour - not much) and wait till the trail is 'clear' for a ways and drive to the next parking lot and repeat.
In parts the average speed is less than a walking pace. In 2010 a guy walking his horse beat us through. This trail delivers on adventure.

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Not going so no need to listen to me, but the real question is which way did Alexander Mackenzie go? ;)

The super hardcore, ultimate old school way like people before him for thousands of years - on foot carrying all their own provisions wearing leather clothes and footwear. In reality AM was one of our earliest tourists who travelled across what would eventually be called Canada using well established trails, who, if he got lost could ask a local for directions, or further yet, ask them to come along and personally show him the way.

Prehistoric is the new old school...

(An interesting aside is that after having completed all his ultimate sight seeing, hikes and paddling trips, ( :) ) he retired and at the age of 48 married a 14 year old.)

Enjoy the trip! Hope you have a great time and that the locals, like so many before them, are friendly and welcoming...

:) :)
 
I'm going to make removable brackets to put the jerry cans on the front bumper. My rear axle, or more accurately, my rear springs get enough abuse. Once the fuel is burned off I will remove the brackets and empty jerrys and put them in the roof rack. These will be off road only (or daytime only) due to the headlights being blocked by the fuel cans. I have auxiliary lights as well for the trail.

Also mounting the chain saw off the front above the winch but haven't drawn up a bracket yet.

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Going all Grizzly Torque on us (Robert Bateman and Bristol Foster around the world). I know the two guys that did this drive, your trip should be easy.
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^^ Love the Capstan Winch. :)
 
Don't forget the saw upfront. That is a wooden scabbard I made for the trip tucked in behind the lights.

That picture was taken where the Krestinuk Horse Trail rejoins the Mackenzie Trail at the west end of Eliguk Lake. When you see the back of the sign keep close to the sign.
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Found a video of the Alberta Rover guys from 2015. It looks like they were mostly on pizza cutter A/T tires.

Also is anyone bringing a PLB/Sat Phone?
 
Critical Contact List

First up is a critical contact list of all participants. We will collect this info in advance, and I will distribute ahead of time. I will also research and add various emergency numbers i.e. search and rescue, local RCMP detachment direct line, the number for 911 (The real one, not the one we give out to the public), etc.

Given the private nature of this information, do not post it up here... Please send to me, either via Private Message or e-mail to pstraub at gmail dot com, the following....

For each of the Driver and Co-pilot...
First/Last Name
Mud Handle
Ham Call Sign
E-mail
Home Phone
Cell Phone, for Receiving SMS messages
Emergency Contact Name and Number
First Aid/Medical Training
Critical Conditions / Medications that may impact the trip (i.e. allergies, epi-pens, can only be stopped by pure silver bullets during the full moon, etc)
 

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