Can anyone point me to a article on how to replace electric hubs on the G144 axles?
This should be fun
Thanks
This should be fun
Thanks
Replacing electric hubs on a LJ78 (1 Viewer)
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Do a search on here. You have options. Rebuild the brushes and have original operation again. Turn stock hubs to manual, Use spacers and add manual hubs or use the AVM manual hubs with built in spacer. Have fun!
- If you use these" AVM 463 " Hubs you won't need spacer rings. They bolt straight on , can be a bit costly .
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I just purchased a set of these AVM hubs.
$149.00 + $13.00 shipping seemed pretty reasonable to me.
Can't wait to get em.
Thanks
$149.00 + $13.00 shipping seemed pretty reasonable to me.
Can't wait to get em.
Thanks
Allen - I will be interested to hear your feedback concerning fitment and operation. Could be a good option for us.
@wardharris - Is this an item you can source through Terrain Tamer for a comparable price?
Thanks
Peter
@wardharris - Is this an item you can source through Terrain Tamer for a comparable price?
Thanks
Peter
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Peter,
I found these available on Ebay of all places, the seller assured me they are "bolt on and go", (I didn't want to have to make or force something to fit).
I will be more than happy to report back on how they work out.
I'm new to the 70 series Cruisers and didn't realize the need for a good option for manual hubs, I hope this thread can help.
I found these available on Ebay of all places, the seller assured me they are "bolt on and go", (I didn't want to have to make or force something to fit).
I will be more than happy to report back on how they work out.
I'm new to the 70 series Cruisers and didn't realize the need for a good option for manual hubs, I hope this thread can help.
AVM hubs are s***.
AISIN hubs are the only way to go on a Land Cruiser.
AISIN hubs are the only way to go on a Land Cruiser.
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I asked around and no one could point to a set of AISIN hubs that would bolt up to the LJ78 and go without hacking and mangling.
(Spacers, mods, and what have you).
I expect it depends on what you are doing with your Land Cruiser and which Cruiser you are running.
A 1991 Land Cruiser Prado LJ78 isn't a back woods tree climber, the one I have delivers mail from box to box to box all day.
I can't imagine it would take much to do that.
We'll see.
(Spacers, mods, and what have you).
I expect it depends on what you are doing with your Land Cruiser and which Cruiser you are running.
A 1991 Land Cruiser Prado LJ78 isn't a back woods tree climber, the one I have delivers mail from box to box to box all day.
I can't imagine it would take much to do that.
We'll see.
Delivering mail was what my 1990 LJ78 was purchased for also. It’s retired from USPS duty now. My Aisin hubs have given me no problem.
All the other rural route carriers envied the extra room in the back, the rear doors, and the mileage compared with their jeeps.
Just a heads up guys. I have the AVM 463 on my Prado. Torfab did the work. Only 4 of the 6 holes line up. They work fine but I was quite disappointed with that aspect.
GTSSportCoupe
2LTE abuser
Not sure if you guys know this, but you can just swap the spindles and hubs to those from another Landcruiser that has manual hubs.
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Jim,
My kid is the USPS carrier, I expect when I get this set-up and on the route he'll get the same reaction.
His Jeep is costing me on average $1000.00 a month to keep on the route and rolling.
I don't see a Private Message type feature here so I can't do mail carrier stories with you here.
Jimmy,
I was afraid of that, it's why I asked the seller if they "bolt on and go", I'll fashion the appropriate "Feed Back" for him.
GTS,
That's good infor to include here, it would be more trouble than I was interested in going to, but really good to know.
I wanted to address Beno's contribution for a moment.
I know zero about AVM Hubs at this point, I can agree with him completely on the AISIN Hubs, I blew a set of Warn Hubs on my FJ40 years ago and put AISIN on to get it back up, I never had problem one with those hubs, EVER!
And it had a 375 HP small block in it. (Kinda stupid looking back on it).
My rock crawling days are far behind me now but I would be whiling to bet those hubs are still on the rig.
Thanks for all the input on this thread folks, some forums are less than helpful, I can see already this isn't one of them.
I'm glad I found you guys.
~Allen
My kid is the USPS carrier, I expect when I get this set-up and on the route he'll get the same reaction.
His Jeep is costing me on average $1000.00 a month to keep on the route and rolling.
I don't see a Private Message type feature here so I can't do mail carrier stories with you here.
Jimmy,
I was afraid of that, it's why I asked the seller if they "bolt on and go", I'll fashion the appropriate "Feed Back" for him.
GTS,
That's good infor to include here, it would be more trouble than I was interested in going to, but really good to know.
I wanted to address Beno's contribution for a moment.
I know zero about AVM Hubs at this point, I can agree with him completely on the AISIN Hubs, I blew a set of Warn Hubs on my FJ40 years ago and put AISIN on to get it back up, I never had problem one with those hubs, EVER!
And it had a 375 HP small block in it. (Kinda stupid looking back on it).
My rock crawling days are far behind me now but I would be whiling to bet those hubs are still on the rig.
Thanks for all the input on this thread folks, some forums are less than helpful, I can see already this isn't one of them.
I'm glad I found you guys.
~Allen
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I installed those new AVM hubs yesterday.
These are my observation as it applies to the 1991 Prado I have (with G144 axles).
They do "bolt on and go".
My vehicle used 4 studs and 2 pins (the pins are RIGHT next to 2 of the studs) for the electric locking hub housing to mount up.
The manual hubs have 6 hole locations and 2 recess locations for the pins.
In addition to the 4 studs and 2 pins, it also has 6 off-set threaded bolt holes BETWEEN the 4 studs and 2 pins (a total of 12 holes each side), I made an attempt to check and see if the 6 empty bolt holes lined up with the new gaskets (and subsequent manual hubs).
They did seemed to line up, it's difficult to be certain as I left the studs for the electric hubs in place.
That being said, I think if you pulled the studs and two pins you should be able to make use of the 6 off-set holes with the new bolts (6 each side and the new cone washers) in the box and have little or no problems doing that. (Again, it looks like those off-set holes line up).
On my vehicle, using the 4 bolt set-up (remember the manual hubs have 6 holes) there are two bolt holes that don't have threaded hole under those locations, Toyota simply didn't put holes there.
(The electric hubs didn't have the two additional holes, just the 4 bolt pattern and 2 pins).
I opted to simply use the studs and pins the electric hubs used and leave to 2 additional bolt holes on the manual hubs empty.
I reasoned if it was good enough for the electric hubs why not the manual hubs.
Let me reiterate that this vehicle is used to deliver mail, the most demanding situation it will face is some snow, possibly a foot at the most at any given time.
If I was headed to the back country, I would recommend finding AISIN hubs and using them, providing the spline count and bolt lay-out was correct. (As mentioned earlier in this thread (GTSSport) you can swap spindles and use the factory AISIN hubs as well).
I tested the rig on a snow covered driveway with a 20%+ grade and regular street tires, the truck went up without a problem.
In summation, these AVM hubs worked out just fine given there mild application.
They are made of a light weight aluminum castings and some plastic parts, (for whatever that's worth).
Thanks again for all your help and comments folks.
Until next time, Allen
These are my observation as it applies to the 1991 Prado I have (with G144 axles).
They do "bolt on and go".
My vehicle used 4 studs and 2 pins (the pins are RIGHT next to 2 of the studs) for the electric locking hub housing to mount up.
The manual hubs have 6 hole locations and 2 recess locations for the pins.
In addition to the 4 studs and 2 pins, it also has 6 off-set threaded bolt holes BETWEEN the 4 studs and 2 pins (a total of 12 holes each side), I made an attempt to check and see if the 6 empty bolt holes lined up with the new gaskets (and subsequent manual hubs).
They did seemed to line up, it's difficult to be certain as I left the studs for the electric hubs in place.
That being said, I think if you pulled the studs and two pins you should be able to make use of the 6 off-set holes with the new bolts (6 each side and the new cone washers) in the box and have little or no problems doing that. (Again, it looks like those off-set holes line up).
On my vehicle, using the 4 bolt set-up (remember the manual hubs have 6 holes) there are two bolt holes that don't have threaded hole under those locations, Toyota simply didn't put holes there.
(The electric hubs didn't have the two additional holes, just the 4 bolt pattern and 2 pins).
I opted to simply use the studs and pins the electric hubs used and leave to 2 additional bolt holes on the manual hubs empty.
I reasoned if it was good enough for the electric hubs why not the manual hubs.
Let me reiterate that this vehicle is used to deliver mail, the most demanding situation it will face is some snow, possibly a foot at the most at any given time.
If I was headed to the back country, I would recommend finding AISIN hubs and using them, providing the spline count and bolt lay-out was correct. (As mentioned earlier in this thread (GTSSport) you can swap spindles and use the factory AISIN hubs as well).
I tested the rig on a snow covered driveway with a 20%+ grade and regular street tires, the truck went up without a problem.
In summation, these AVM hubs worked out just fine given there mild application.
They are made of a light weight aluminum castings and some plastic parts, (for whatever that's worth).
Thanks again for all your help and comments folks.
Until next time, Allen
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This is the only way to go unless you plan on keeping your stock system working. I bought a mini truck axle with a good set of aisin hubs. Swapped the spindles over when I did a knuckle rebuild. Easy as pie. I then sold the remainder of the mini truck axle parts for almost as much as I bought it for.
For anyone desiring to ditch their E-Hubs, we (Cruiser Outfitters) have a conversion kit available complete with Japanese spindle, hub body, AISIN hub (pick your specs) and the parts needed to install. We also have a limited amount of the hub spacers that allow you to simply bolt an AISIN hub to your existing "4 stud" components. Give us a ring at the shop and we can discuss. It's obviously more expensive than AVM, but it's Japanese parts and upgradable.
Has anyone bought new motors for the LJ78 E-hubs? I'm down to just 1 spare now. Wouldn't mind buying two more motors to have on hand.
I have a LJ78 with E-hubs. Just realized the e-hubs don't work although the light comes on (much like what other members experience). I removed the hub covers, the motor works, and the cog turns when the button is pressed, but it wont engage. So I removed the cog out of motor, turned the wheel (with teeth) to the engage position, and installed the hub covers back.....now my 4WD works fine. If the motor works, why isn't the hub working? Has this happened to you? thank you
Are you timing the end cap before fitting them back on ?
Definetely did not do that. I will try it over the weekend. Thank you.
