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So my radiator hair-line weak point turned into the infamous leak... I already read through the entire thread about radiator "public service announcement" etc. Seems everyone is getting a better deal...but hard to know exactly what people did. Was it OEM? After-market?

2 quick questions:

1. My Toyota guy will replace with the OEM radiator for just under $1000. Not a Denso, but the Toyota radiator (T.RAD). This seems super high...though I know the radiator itself is around $450.

QUESTION: What are you paying for T.RAD radiator replacement?

2. Water pump: According to Toyota, the only real cross-over for labor is not having to replace coolant twice...but other than that, replacing the water pump is another huge wad of $$.

QUESTION: When are your water pumps going out on you?

Thanks for input...as my LC is my daily driver so this can't wait...

Markuson
 
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I can only help with question 2, I had to remove my water pump for a separate issue at 95k. I bought a new one for $115, after inspection on the original pump, it was in perfect shape. That said, for me it already had to come out, and I was ok spend about a hundred for price of mind. (And I'm always trying to save money)

How much are they charging to pull the belt and water pump off? It shouldn't be more than an hour of work, so no more than $250. If it was that price, knowing it's your daily, ide probably do it. If they want something above that, I would wait.
 
I can only help with question 2, I had to remove my water pump for a separate issue at 95k. I bought a new one for $115, after inspection on the original pump, it was in perfect shape. That said, for me it already had to come out, and I was ok spend about a hundred for price of mind. (And I'm always trying to save money)

How much are they charging to pull the belt and water pump off? It shouldn't be more than an hour of work, so no more than $250. If it was that price, knowing it's your daily, ide probably do it. If they want something above that, I would wait.

Toyota's price on the water pump job? $900+!!! Ouch.

-No fun eating into my limited mod fund...
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Toyota's price on the water pump job? $900+!!! Ouch.

-No fun eating into my limited mod fund...
...

That seems high too.

YourMechanic | Auto Repair at Your Home or Office shows $642 for a water pump (generic San Diego zip code), but that may be aftermarket (cost for OEM wouldn't be much more though). And that would be without the radiator off.

With a radiator, I wouldn't be super concerned about OEM vs. aftermarket personally. I'd trust a Denso. For a water pump, I would only use an OEM pump.

If it wasn't for the known leak, I'd say leave the WP alone, but knowing it might be a time bomb, tough to say. I wouldn't pay $900 though. The previous owner did it on mine (at a Toyota dealership), and I think the total cost was just under $700 w tax.
 
Stick with OEM for the radiator. On some of the aftermarket ones, the side mounting pieces don't line up exactly right.
Check to see if they are replacing the coolant as part of the job, that crap is expensive!
Still, $1000 seems high, its a straight forward job....buy the part yourself and take it to a local shop.
Camelback Toyota parts usually has pretty decent prices for OEM parts.
 
bringing this thread back to life- My radiator just failed one my 08 at 123K. Im planning on replacing it this week along with a water pump just for peace of mind. In my conversations with a local shop that works on lots of land cruisers they recommended a CSF radiator. They says its similar construction as OE but doesn't have the same failure point. Does anyone have any experience with CSF? Should I go this route over the OE model? BTW- its about 150.00 less expensive. Price isn't the concern though. I just want to fix it and forget about it for ever.
 
I'm guessing they're a dealer/reseller for "CSF"?

not 100% sure on this. They did seem very knowledgeable about the 200 series failure point and issues. The owner of this shop is a cruiser-head and drives a built 100. A lot of the local Cruiser guys use them and are happy.
 
not 100% sure on this. They did seem very knowledgeable about the 200 series failure point and issues. The owner of this shop is a cruiser-head and drives a built 100. A lot of the local Cruiser guys use them and are happy.
Did you ever end up trying the CSF? I have the hairline crack in my 08, so just looking at options
 
So my radiator hair-line weak point turned into the infamous leak... I already read through the entire thread about radiator "public service announcement" etc. Seems everyone is getting a better deal...but hard to know exactly what people did. Was it OEM? After-market?

2 quick questions:

1. My Toyota guy will replace with the OEM radiator for just under $1000. Not a Denso, but the Toyota radiator (T.RAD). This seems super high...though I know the radiator itself is around $450.

QUESTION: What are you paying for T.RAD radiator replacement?

2. Water pump: According to Toyota, the only real cross-over for labor is not having to replace coolant twice...but other than that, replacing the water pump is another huge wad of $$.

QUESTION: When are your water pumps going out on you?

Thanks for input...as my LC is my daily driver so this can't wait...

Markuson

My 2009 LX currently at 103,xxx miles.

My radiator is still intact. Same hair line discrepancy in same spot and no leak yet, so I'm probably on borrowed time. I've gotten a few estimates that I posted on another thread, costs range from $900 at an Indy to $1700 at a Toyota dealership. Was told this would be 6-8 hour job.

My water pump went out at ~90k miles; I noticed coolant was low. I asked about possible water pump failure, and sure enough, the pump was coated with a red colored fluid. Use a dental mirror for easier visibility. The pump was replaced by a Lexus dealership due to certified preowned warranty, and fortunately I only had to pay a $250 deductible. Took about 2-3 days due to ordering.

Are you able to get a visual confirmation the pump is failing?
 
@Yeti White @DPA200 I am familiar with CSF having used one as a replacement in my FJ40. It was much less expensive than Mr Toyota and I bought from a radiator shop in town.
My one peeve (like many others on MUD) is that the drain cock is plastic and the threads are very poorly shaped. Dont know if this would be the case for the 200 series radiator replacement, but my .02 from experience on the 40. Seems to cool the old 2F just fine for trips of a hundred miles or so, but that's highway driving.
If you daily drive your 200 like I do, I'd pony up and get the OEM version for peace of mind.
 
@Yeti White @DPA200 I am familiar with CSF having used one as a replacement in my FJ40. It was much less expensive than Mr Toyota and I bought from a radiator shop in town.
My one peeve (like many others on MUD) is that the drain cock is plastic and the threads are very poorly shaped. Dont know if this would be the case for the 200 series radiator replacement, but my .02 from experience on the 40. Seems to cool the old 2F just fine for trips of a hundred miles or so, but that's highway driving.
If you daily drive your 200 like I do, I'd pony up and get the OEM version for peace of mind.
I'm going with the OEM from Camelback Toyota. Going back and forth with them now to make sure the ones they have in stock have the newer curved stamp plate
 

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