I wouldn't label you ego centric or self-serving - maybe a headstrong anti-gov redneck.
Yes, the fight was simple. We had a good core group back when you and Mike brought the 4Wheelers and Sports Car camps together. We were just 4wheelers here on MUD and Yahoo Groups and the Sports folks on GTR. That was only 3 years or so ago.
When this started, I remember post to the effect that, "they will only ban the sports cars" or "there wouldn't be an issue if they stopped the import of cars like the Skylines". Now, it is, "it will only happen in Quebec".
I guess we will have to disagree on the incorporation bit. I've worked with groups and in organizations for over 25 years now. Sooner or later every organization is faced with people trying to use it for their ego or self-interest. The only ones which survive it are those who have set rules in place to deal with it. Incorporation also provides members some degree of personal protection from law suits in addition to recognition that the group is a legal entity.
If there is to be a new group or organization sometime in the future, I'd like to see that it includes both private owners and businesses. If our focus is only defending the right to import, register and drive imported vehicles, then there shouldn't be any issue with business members. If someone has an issue with a business member, then they can take it up with the BBB. Also, one member should equal one vote - regardless of who you are. Just look at how the classic car and muscle car associations seem to work so well. They do a hell of a job defending the interests of their members.
Right now, we need to build political capital. Daryl did a heck of a job getting that report done and providing some political capital. The other part of political capital is membership. I don't think IVOAC has much of an active membership/forum user base now. IMO, the report Daryl commissioned on behalf of IVOAC is pretty much useless in the hands of IVOAC as it currently stands. I am not sure if it is best to try and rebuild IVOAC or something new. It would be easier to build something new in terms of dealing with personalities. However, the IVOAC brand is know to key game players.
Perhaps in the long term, we need to set-up a site where all these ideas could be discussed. In the short term, we need to reverse this ministerial decision. I am willing to help out as much as work and family life let me. That's about all I can promise.
i agree with your post...
i hope i don't fit those labels, my only interest when i started IVOAC was to fight the government. i couldn't have accomplished anything without the help of others and i will be the first to admit that.
we had a good battle going back then and then once the battle was over the people started bickering back and forth.
Daryl did finally get the report but has it gone anywhere since? he emailed me about the final conclusion which i felt did the job but anything further happening with it?
we need to get fighting this Quebec situation ASAP, we don't need a lot of people and we don't (in my opinion) need to be incorporated to do this. incorporation leads to rules and government interference, non-incorporation has freedom to act quickly when the need is there.
IF the majority says to incorporate then so be it but i would hope this would not be a dividing factor in the fight.
i hope to get back to basics...
