wow. great build! good to see folks starting to do some really "cool" stuff w/ 80s. 
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I remember waggoner5 saying that the crossmember was only off by maybe one inch when he swapped out the inline 6 and tranny with the V8 engine and tranny. You may get away with just modifying the existing crossmember.
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Maybe waggoner5 will chime in, but I believe thats because the 45 body allows the motor to sit back farther.
My motor is about 1.5 from the firewall thus my mount will end up being about 6" farther forward from the factory.
Ill know for sure first thing in the morning.
Mine was probably around 5" forward from stock.
Sorry for the long wait, Im not usually on the computer when I come home for the weekends.
Essentially, Yes. Basically you are not moving slow enough or you are burning into the material. This creates a valley and becomes the weakest point on the weld. My camera phone takes crappy pics but Ill get one of the header welds I just finished with a mig.
Also, deep penetration is good but if you are not building up the weld and allowing the valley to form penetration does not matter.
just my .02
-edit- do you weave or string your welds?
I just finished up my header, heres a crappy pic.
(im not intending to jack this thread)
EDIT- I didnt read through it all the way, but this seems to have very basic but firm knowledge
http://www.fgg.uni-lj.si/kmk/esdep/master/wg11/l0210.htm
(im not intending to jack this thread)
EDIT- I didnt read through it all the way, but this seems to have very basic but firm knowledge
http://www.fgg.uni-lj.si/kmk/esdep/master/wg11/l0210.htm
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.02 cents is good. Thats how I learn, im sure others too.
One of the problems I find is that I can weld well at certain angles. God help me if I have to do anything under the car. If its directly in front of me on the ground where I can get to all sides, it turns out good and it feels like I can feel the weld laying down properly. I have a lot to learn still. I also realize a clean surface is imparative to a good weld.
I run small circles as I pull and push a little as I go. Does that make sense ?
.035 wire. 75/25 argon/co2 at 25cfm
When the we lder is set correctly you can just string/drag the 'gun' and produce some amazing welds.
The small circles/'j'/'p'/zigzag are all considered weave beads.
I was welding 1/2 square tubing for a High Pressure Airtank a few weeks ago. I didnt trust my MIG to handle the thickness so I used our generator/welder cranked way up. That was an experience.
If you can weld super thin metal (sheet metal thin) then you can weld anything. Its best to learn on the small stuff (its cheaper)
I can weld upside down with ARC (Shielded Metal Arc Welding) but cant do jack with a mig upside down.
The small circles/'j'/'p'/zigzag are all considered weave beads.
I was welding 1/2 square tubing for a High Pressure Airtank a few weeks ago. I didnt trust my MIG to handle the thickness so I used our generator/welder cranked way up. That was an experience.
If you can weld super thin metal (sheet metal thin) then you can weld anything. Its best to learn on the small stuff (its cheaper)
I can weld upside down with ARC (Shielded Metal Arc Welding) but cant do jack with a mig upside down.
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Little progress today. Crossmember finished up and one of the motor mounts made.
Drilled out the front hoop of the crossmember for lack of a better term. The holes are to access the bolts on the trans mount. I was going to sleeve the holes and french them in...
Little product placement - sharpies are the sh1t
This thing is a tank. 27lbs
The holes that I was thinking about sleeving. Works fine as is and im movin on
Drilled out the front hoop of the crossmember for lack of a better term. The holes are to access the bolts on the trans mount. I was going to sleeve the holes and french them in...
Little product placement - sharpies are the sh1t
This thing is a tank. 27lbs
The holes that I was thinking about sleeving. Works fine as is and im movin on
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Bomb proof motor mounts
1/2" plate bases
FJ motor mount
The metal shell that goes over the mount
The shell sitting on the rubber mount
1/4" plate for the base of the mount
Tacking the plates in place
I cut a hole in the back of the 1/2" plate so I can get to the motor mount bolt
Hammerite silver to protect from rust
One down, one to go
1/2" plate bases
FJ motor mount
The metal shell that goes over the mount
The shell sitting on the rubber mount
1/4" plate for the base of the mount
Tacking the plates in place
I cut a hole in the back of the 1/2" plate so I can get to the motor mount bolt
Hammerite silver to protect from rust
One down, one to go
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More progress today.
The crossmember got bolted down along with the pass side motor mount. This morning I threw a level on the motor in a few different places. Measured 50x in the course of an hour and started fab on the drivers side motor mount. Got the motor sitting on the frame rails on its own now.
I started looking at the ac compressor real good. Its not looking pretty. The clutch is frozen and there is rust in the aluminum fittings from the inner workings of the pump. Im going to rebuild or replace the pump now before I finish tighening the motor mounts. The pump will be a mother fawker to get out once the truck is back together.
I mounted the PS pump and found that the pulley has a slight wow in it. So thats another part I need.
I didnt take a ton of photos of the drivers side mount being fab'd
I did take a pic of the 1-1/4" hole that I drilled thru the 1/2" plate.
Sittin pretty
The crossmember got bolted down along with the pass side motor mount. This morning I threw a level on the motor in a few different places. Measured 50x in the course of an hour and started fab on the drivers side motor mount. Got the motor sitting on the frame rails on its own now.
I started looking at the ac compressor real good. Its not looking pretty. The clutch is frozen and there is rust in the aluminum fittings from the inner workings of the pump. Im going to rebuild or replace the pump now before I finish tighening the motor mounts. The pump will be a mother fawker to get out once the truck is back together.
I mounted the PS pump and found that the pulley has a slight wow in it. So thats another part I need.
I didnt take a ton of photos of the drivers side mount being fab'd
I did take a pic of the 1-1/4" hole that I drilled thru the 1/2" plate.
Sittin pretty
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Have you been able to determine the difference in overall weight between the two drivetrains?
Waggoner5
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In my 45, the engine could sit only 1 inch forward of the 1FZ, but we found that the 2UZ in an 80 is roughly 6 forward. My oil filter housing sits directly over the panhard support brace with 1/2" to spare where on the 80 the filter sits way forward. That fixes some issues with clearance, but creates others.
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I'll take some more pix tomorrow that show clearances around the motor and trans areas and between the body.
Waggoner5 is right. Im going to measure again now that the motor is all set in place but at last look the motor was between 5-6" forward.
I thought I was going to have to do a oil filter relocate. It actually clears the panhard mount forward by a little bit. I'll try to post measurements for you guys tomorrow.
I didnt have a way to weigh them at all. If I had to hazzard a guess I think it could easily be 100lbs. The trans alone is much heavier.
Waggoner5 is right. Im going to measure again now that the motor is all set in place but at last look the motor was between 5-6" forward.
I thought I was going to have to do a oil filter relocate. It actually clears the panhard mount forward by a little bit. I'll try to post measurements for you guys tomorrow.
A very wise man once said..There is no replacement for displacement.
IOW..who cares what the weight difference is, it'll scream!
Agreed 100%! Big is better, and too much is JUST RIGHT!
There is no replacement for displacement.
While I agree, I was more interested to know how either the reduced or added weight would affect the stance of the truck...............otherwise, I agree with you wholeheartedly: the more power the better, and the best way to compensate for added weight (on a 4x4 anyway) is simply MORE power!IOW..who cares what the weight difference is, it'll scream!
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I got a little done tonight. Some of it was pretty motivating
I started with the coolant bridge at the back of the motor
A little attention to detail goes a long way in my mind. Hence the cast finish with black bolts
Im growing tight on funds knowing that I need to pay someone an arm and a leg to shorten the front DL and lengthen the rear DL.
So I reused this particular gasket since it was in great shape. I used a little copper spray to make sure it sealed (fingers crossed)
At this point I was tweakin out thinking that the thermostat housing wasnt going to line up with the water pump. You can see the one bolt hole not lined up in the photo.
The slip joint was real tight and it didnt want to move until the rubber mallet pursueded it.
After i got the above situation handled I decided it was time to take a teaser photo. I've been die'n to see this. Hell to the yea
The valve covers are getting black bolts too.
I started with the coolant bridge at the back of the motor
A little attention to detail goes a long way in my mind. Hence the cast finish with black bolts
Im growing tight on funds knowing that I need to pay someone an arm and a leg to shorten the front DL and lengthen the rear DL.
So I reused this particular gasket since it was in great shape. I used a little copper spray to make sure it sealed (fingers crossed)
At this point I was tweakin out thinking that the thermostat housing wasnt going to line up with the water pump. You can see the one bolt hole not lined up in the photo.
The slip joint was real tight and it didnt want to move until the rubber mallet pursueded it.
After i got the above situation handled I decided it was time to take a teaser photo. I've been die'n to see this. Hell to the yea
The valve covers are getting black bolts too.
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It's...It's....., Beautiful! 
looking good!
wow.
just...
wow.
just...
wow.