Possible First 460 (2022) . . . Couple Questions / Thoughts (1 Viewer)

[rootacres]

Hello all, great forum here, first time poster.

So I am in the beginning stages of vetting out my next vehicle. I drive a lot for work, for reference, my current vehicle I bought new in 2019 and have 190k miles on it right now. My off-roading consists mostly of forest service roads with some more difficult stuff mixed in there from time to time. I want a body on frame vehicle that can tow a moderate load comfortably. Has a proper 4 wheel drive system but mostly is a comfortable place to log some miles in. From what I have read, these 460s are a quiet, comfortable place to spend some time?

Couple questions

1.) How is the adaptive cruise? I know this is the first generation of Toyotas ACC. I also understand the frustration of having people cut in front of you because of the following distance etc. But is this system fairly well executed?

2.) For those that have towed. I don't plan drag around a trailer loaded up to max capacity but will this tow 2k-5k lbs comfortably? Say a utility trailer loaded down, flatbed with a SXS, small camper trailer etc?

3.) Is the ride quality that good compared to others in its class? Like 4Runner vs GX, is it really that much quieter/better?

I am open to all other opinions and thoughts on this vehicle, please share if you'd like.

Thank you for any help.

 

[BigSwede]

I have towed a 4000 pound boat with no trouble at all, other than getting 10 mpg.

The suspension is pretty much the same as a 4Runner, but the GX is insulated better so I would say it is quieter. The KDSS swayers allow the GX to handle a bit flatter than a 4Runner.

 

[ericm979]

My GX has become our road trip vehicle. It's quiet and comfortable. Fuel mileage is not good but its better than the Tundra. With that much mileage it might make sense to have two vehicles, one being a small car with good economy that you put most of the miles on and the other being a used GX for fun. There are a lot of used GXes that have been well taken care of and not driven off road. They're often driven by suburban soccer moms who have enough money to service them at Lexus dealers.

 

[jonshonda]

If you can stomach the fuel economy the GX is a great overall vehicle and an amazing road trip machine. It isn't the best to drive at interstate speeds on windy days though, it does get blown around a bit and requires a bit more input then some may be comfortable with.

It's got enough power to tow 6500lbs no problem, and weighs enough that it feels good towing as well. I personally would feel bad driving a lot and getting 17mpg, and as others have said have a second vehicle that uses half the fuel to motor around in.

 

[jgalt]

Hello all, great forum here, first time poster.

So I am in the beginning stages of vetting out my next vehicle. I drive a lot for work, for reference, my current vehicle I bought new in 2019 and have 190k miles on it right now. My off-roading consists mostly of forest service roads with some more difficult stuff mixed in there from time to time. I want a body on frame vehicle that can tow a moderate load comfortably. Has a proper 4 wheel drive system but mostly is a comfortable place to log some miles in. From what I have read, these 460s are a quiet, comfortable place to spend some time?

Couple questions

1.) How is the adaptive cruise? I know this is the first generation of Toyotas ACC. I also understand the frustration of having people cut in front of you because of the following distance etc. But is this system fairly well executed?

2.) For those that have towed. I don't plan drag around a trailer loaded up to max capacity but will this tow 2k-5k lbs comfortably? Say a utility trailer loaded down, flatbed with a SXS, small camper trailer etc?

3.) Is the ride quality that good compared to others in its class? Like 4Runner vs GX, is it really that much quieter/better?

I am open to all other opinions and thoughts on this vehicle, please share if you'd like.

Thank you for any help.

I don't think any adaptive cruise control is flawless, nor could it be....ever. Some conditions are conducive and some aren't. The real World is full of things which the code writers haven't anticipated, and the sensors are only so sophisticated. In other words, use at your peril. Heck even the side mirror warning indicators can be faked out.

 

[savetherobots]

Hello all, great forum here, first time poster.

So I am in the beginning stages of vetting out my next vehicle. I drive a lot for work, for reference, my current vehicle I bought new in 2019 and have 190k miles on it right now. My off-roading consists mostly of forest service roads with some more difficult stuff mixed in there from time to time. I want a body on frame vehicle that can tow a moderate load comfortably. Has a proper 4 wheel drive system but mostly is a comfortable place to log some miles in. From what I have read, these 460s are a quiet, comfortable place to spend some time?

Couple questions

1.) How is the adaptive cruise? I know this is the first generation of Toyotas ACC. I also understand the frustration of having people cut in front of you because of the following distance etc. But is this system fairly well executed?

2.) For those that have towed. I don't plan drag around a trailer loaded up to max capacity but will this tow 2k-5k lbs comfortably? Say a utility trailer loaded down, flatbed with a SXS, small camper trailer etc?

3.) Is the ride quality that good compared to others in its class? Like 4Runner vs GX, is it really that much quieter/better?

I am open to all other opinions and thoughts on this vehicle, please share if you'd like.

Thank you for any help.

The adaptive cruise control is fine, as you said, it is 1st gen. I usually set it to the least sensitive setting.

It can easily be turned off, but you have to do it every time you activate the system from off to on. I would say 90% of the time on a road trip, I turn off the adaptive cruise and I manually shift for hills.

The cruise control mapping IMO is very sensitive. But then again we only have 6 gears to work with. If you are not consistently on flat ground, it will be very aggressive with the gearing (eg, 6th >>4) and if you don't like that then you will find yourself manually shifting most of the time and often without cruise.

Honestly, it's my least favorite aspect of the GX experience for long drives... The cruise control generally speaking. But then again I'm comparing it to my wife's '14 A4 so YMMV.

 

[Cold Iron]

1.) How is the adaptive cruise? I know this is the first generation of Toyotas ACC. I also understand the frustration of having people cut in front of you because of the following distance etc. But is this system fairly well executed?

My first vehicle with ACC for me and I'm more than happy with it. I use it all the time on 2 lane roads and highway traffic. But the sections of I-35 and I-90 that I drive on don't usually have much traffic. When traffic gets heavy I turn it off, but more times than not I use it and still get a kick out of how much better it is over old school cruise. Sometimes I forget and look down to see that I am only going 60 mph because of the guy in front of me then finally pass them. With the V8 it makes passing easy and fun again.

2.) For those that have towed. I don't plan drag around a trailer loaded up to max capacity but will this tow 2k-5k lbs comfortably? Say a utility trailer loaded down, flatbed with a SXS, small camper trailer etc?

Polaris Ranger NorthStar Trail Boss 2K pounds. FLOE CargoMax 13' trailer so ~3k pounds and it is more than comfortable. Much easier and less noticeable than the 4.0 in my 2013 Taco. I have a 19 Luxury with self leveling air suspension and adaptive suspension and really like it for towing or heavy loads. As always towing with a regular fuel engine reduces gas mileage as to be expected. Especially towing what is aerodynamically equivalent to a brick, and so it the GX.

3.) Is the ride quality that good compared to others in its class? Like 4Runner vs GX, is it really that much quieter/better?

V8 in the GX makes a LOT of difference over a 4R IMO. Test drive both and you will have your answer in ride quality, I did. GX is a huge improvement over a 4R at least to my old man bones. A lot less road fatigue after driving any distance when I get out of the GX compared to any of my previous vehicles.

Haven't had it off road in any really challenging conditions yet, that will come this Fall in the Sunset Region of Canada and the North Shore of Lake Superior. I have a long steep paver brick driveway and last week got rain, ice, and then 8" of snow. Then more ice on top of the snow. I refused to blow the driveway with a warm up coming and not sure that I could anyhow with all the ice mixed in so just drove out of it all. With no problems, it didn't even hesitate. Rear end of the Taco would have been squirrely, even with the bags of sand I kept tied down in the back. Many if not most other vehicles wouldn't have been able to make it out to the road at the top. Cake walk for the GX.

 

[Banandalorian]

3.) Is the ride quality that good compared to others in its class? Like 4Runner vs GX, is it really that much quieter/better?

I am open to all other opinions and thoughts on this vehicle, please share if you'd like.

Thank you for any help.

GX is a much nicer place to be than a 4Runner. The Lexus NVH engineering is real, plus you get the v8, more headroom, and nicer materials throughout. You can easily mod a GX to be more capable off road if you want to. You can't do the same if you want your 4Runner to be quieter on the highway or less cramped in the driver's seat.
My 460 with a front bumper, roof rack, lift, and 33 inch RT tires is still noticeably quieter inside on the highway than my friends' stock FJ or Tacoma with all terrains (it is noticeably louder than my other friend's totally stock 460 with Michelins)

 

[r2m]

One of the features I really like about the GX is that it is a CONSTANT all wheel drive. You only ever have to shift into 4Lo. So on slick roads and trails you don't have shift into anything for 4x4, only if you're rock crawling, climbing, etc, then drop down to 4Lo.
As far as comfort, during the pandemic, my wife and I wanted a lobster diner, so we drove to Maine for a lobster diner. Note: we live in So.Cal. I had to be back for my Army reservist drill in 9 days so we did some 1,000 mile plus days. Yeah we were a little stiff but we're not kids either anymore. General ergonomics is very comfortable and practical. The point is that we were VERY comfortable with the long days of driving