Ahh.
I see. Sorry for not paying attention.
The rigging seems like the difficult and sketchy part to me.
Geez...and now I'm daydreaming of two winches...
Portable Multi-mount Electric Winch
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Ahh.
I see. Sorry for not paying attention.
The rigging seems like the difficult and sketchy part to me.
Geez...and now I'm daydreaming of two winches...
don't we all already have a hand winch?
it's called a hilift!
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A couple of friends were coming down a remote trail in Central NM a few months ago. In many places the trail hugs the side of the mountain with a vertical wall on one side and a large drop-off on the other side. At one of these spots they came upon a large dually pickup stopped directly in the center of the trail. No way to get around on either side. They stopped and inspected the truck finding dozens of empty beer cans and shotgun shells in the bed and signs that the truck hadn't been there very long.
They honked their horns, yelled, and waited... and waited... and waited. Backtracking would have taken a long time and involved backing uphill quite a distance before they could turn around. Two of the four trucks had novice drivers so that didn't seem like a good option; plus they would have a 6 or 7 hour trip back up the mountain and down where they came in. It was getting dark.
They couldn't tell if the truck was broken down or if it was abandon or if the occupant(s) was out hiking or what. They decided to move this monster so they got out the hi-lifts and jacked up one end and pushed the truck to the side. Jack up the other end and push, repeating until they had enough room to spot each other around the truck. I didn't ask if they left it next to the vertical wall or the 1000' drop-off but I'm sure the owner was puzzled when he returned to retrieve his vehicle. Maybe they pushed it back when they got past... dunno.... I wouldn't have.
(this wasn't my story as this happened to a friend. I tried not to embelish too much but it's hard to resist.)
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[slight... ever so slight Hi-Jack]
A couple of friends were coming down a remote trail in Central NM a few months ago. In many places the trail hugs the side of the mountain with a vertical wall on one side and a large drop-off on the other side. At one of these spots they came upon a large dually pickup stopped directly in the center of the trail. No way to get around on either side. They stopped and inspected the truck finding dozens of empty beer cans and shotgun shells in the bed and signs that the truck hadn't been there very long.
They honked their horns, yelled, and waited... and waited... and waited. Backtracking would have taken a long time and involved backing uphill quite a distance before they could turn around. Two of the four trucks had novice drivers so that didn't seem like a good option; plus they would have a 6 or 7 hour trip back up the mountain and down where they came in. It was getting dark.
They couldn't tell if the truck was broken down or if it was abandon or if the occupant(s) was out hiking or what. They decided to move this monster so they got out the hi-lifts and jacked up one end and pushed the truck to the side. Jack up the other end and push, repeating until they had enough room to spot each other around the truck. I didn't ask if they left it next to the vertical wall or the 1000' drop-off but I'm sure the owner was puzzled when he returned to retrieve his vehicle. Maybe they pushed it back when they got past... dunno.... I wouldn't have.
(this wasn't my story as this happened to a friend. I tried not to embelish too much but it's hard to resist.)
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don't know that I would have messed around with a truck showing evidence of both alcohol consumption and firearms possession....
I have used a Warn multi mount for years on my 60 and some good points have been made on some of the disadvantages. Because of the decreased approach and deproach angles I keep it mount inside for most of the time. So far I have yet to have a problem mounting it when needed. Its also nice to have a rear mount winch to lower yourself down. Sometimes a winch cannot get you out and you need to break out the hi-lift. But even a manual hi-lift can fail.
The Foers winch setup looks like a great idea. Do you see any problems using a synthetic cable with the Foers setup?
The Foers winch setup looks like a great idea. Do you see any problems using a synthetic cable with the Foers setup?
Synthetic on that setup would work, but friction would be a large concern in the frame rail as well as at all the pivot/pulley points.
Synthetic is much more sensitive to abrasive contact, so if you minimize that there is no reason it wouldn't work.
Perhaps run a protective channel down the framerail that would be non-abrasive (PVC?)
Synthetic is much more sensitive to abrasive contact, so if you minimize that there is no reason it wouldn't work.
Perhaps run a protective channel down the framerail that would be non-abrasive (PVC?)
That would be a great idea! Mount the winch, then to run synthetic line, cut out holes through the frame rails so that you have the minimum amount of angles in the line, and use some good sized tubing to just stick through the whole entire thing. Not only would you have a direct line for the synthetic, but you would also be able to strengthen the frame and stiffen it as well. Now my wheels are turning...edit: now that I'm looking at those diagrams a little more closely as well, I don't really like the idea of the pulleys that are at the corners and stuff like that. It would be good for turning 180* and all, but how often do you do that? I think your best bet is to mount the winch a little to the side, so that you can run some tube down the other side of it, and then you would have more of a direct line than all those angles in there
Just keep it simple. Buy a winch for the rear.
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Thanks, so far I'm enjoying all the ideas.
Beowolf
Sir, that FOERS system is great and I like that for a dedicated system for one vehicle. I think I have seen that on a military truck (army maybe) but I never understood how it worked. Those diagrams and webpage on foers is very informative...possibilities...
Beowolf
Sir, that FOERS system is great and I like that for a dedicated system for one vehicle. I think I have seen that on a military truck (army maybe) but I never understood how it worked. Those diagrams and webpage on foers is very informative...possibilities...
Since I've read this thread all that i've really been able to think about is how I can figure out a Foers system underneath my 80 and my 40, and I've got a general idea of how I am going to try to work it out:
Mount the winch, between the rear frame rail and the next one in; have a synthetic line run straight out into the bumber, and have a snatch mounted vertically. From there, run the line through tubing that goes down underneath the winch and acts as a skid for the winch and the belly of the truck, to the front bumper, then have another snatch horizontal to be able to run the line back to the rear, acting as the other side of the skid. Then, you could have regular pull from the rear, or 4x pull from the rear, and 2x pull from the front. You would also be able to get protection for the guts of the truck, and the line.
Obviously, so far a very vague description of an idea, but anybody see anything wrong with it?
Mount the winch, between the rear frame rail and the next one in; have a synthetic line run straight out into the bumber, and have a snatch mounted vertically. From there, run the line through tubing that goes down underneath the winch and acts as a skid for the winch and the belly of the truck, to the front bumper, then have another snatch horizontal to be able to run the line back to the rear, acting as the other side of the skid. Then, you could have regular pull from the rear, or 4x pull from the rear, and 2x pull from the front. You would also be able to get protection for the guts of the truck, and the line.
Obviously, so far a very vague description of an idea, but anybody see anything wrong with it?
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OK I guess I've been lurking enough to jump in and say that this looks like a good idea, but I wouldn't want to take it to the mountains and rely on it with out a lot of testing.
