Performance Chips (1 Viewer)

[Grouseman]

I have reading about all these performance chips. Most all say gas mileage is better. Have any of you used these and had good results? I want to improve mileage on all my cars and suv's. I do a lot of preventive maintenance also. Synethic oil, etc.

 

[Marvelicious]

Performance?

Jokes aside, are we talking about some sort of product that's actually available for an FZJ80?

 

[baldilocks]

You don’t find much if any info about this subject here because it’s either non existent or it’s snake oil not worth the price for what you get out of said “chip”. If the ad claims something like 10-15% increase in fuel economy they are lying.

 

[Grouseman]

For 80 and others. G x470, corolla

 

[Marvelicious]

Unless you're shopping Wish or Aliexpress or something (don't!), the only thing I find in a search for "FZJ80 performance chip" is the Unichip, which is really a piggyback ECU if I understand correctly. No experience, but there are results on Mud... mostly diesel guys and turbo builds. I don't expect you're likely to get earthshaking results from a stock FZJ80 without other mods. There might be some mileage to gain from a wideband O2 sensor and appropriate controls (don't know if the Unichip will do this) to give you lean burn at part throttle cruise and that sort of thing, but I'm just not sure there's a ton of efficiency left on the table in these old forklift motors. Still, 1mpg would be like a free gallon of gas in every tank.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Grouseman]

I have 4 Toyotas. 435k-80 Series, 285k -GX-470, 340k-Corolla, 345k-4-Runner. I believe in oil and gas additives. Seafoam, Lucus, and Marvel's. They all are good for different things. Yes I believe in SNAKE oil. I would like to improve mpg. To think that software has not improved since 1996? I'm sure it has. These chips are software amendments. There are numerous ones out there. Just trying to find someone that has seen good results. I should have stated I use snake oil, lol

 

[BILT4ME]

I have 4 Toyotas. 435k-80 Series, 285k -GX-470, 340k-Corolla, 345k-4-Runner. I believe in oil and gas additives. Seafoam, Lucus, and Marvel's. They all are good for different things. Yes I believe in SNAKE oil. I would like to improve mpg. To think that software has not improved since 1996? I'm sure it has. These chips are software amendments. There are numerous ones out there. Just trying to find someone that has seen good results. I should have stated I use snake oil, lol

I have heard of installing magnets on the fuel rail to improve the atomization of fuel and improving mileage.

There is also a vane air part that inserts into your intake tube that forces the air into a spiral and improves airflow into the engine (like when you swirl a water bottle and the liquid comes out faster).

 

[Grouseman]

Airflow to the engine will improve performance. I think that is a turbo?

 

[voodu3]

These are the things I know that will help fuel economy:
stock size tires with proper air pressure or appropriate gearing with larger tires. Eliminate as much weight as you can.
No roof rack etc.
cooling system is working properly
Exhaust system is working no clogged cats or egr
Light weight oil 5w30
As far as additives I’ve seen improvements from the Motor oils, additives and car care from LIQUI MOLY - https://www.liqui-moly.com/en/us/
I’ve used them on my 80 and my old 944.
YMMV

 

[Marvelicious]

I have 4 Toyotas. 435k-80 Series, 285k -GX-470, 340k-Corolla, 345k-4-Runner. I believe in oil and gas additives. Seafoam, Lucus, and Marvel's. They all are good for different things. Yes I believe in SNAKE oil. I would like to improve mpg. To think that software has not improved since 1996? I'm sure it has. These chips are software amendments. There are numerous ones out there. Just trying to find someone that has seen good results. I should have stated I use snake oil, lol

It's not just software, the software needs to work with the hardware and the hardware wasn't exactly cutting edge 30 years ago. Sorry, I don't mean to piss in your cornflakes, and I'd love to be wrong. Without links to specific products all any of us can do is speak generally, and, well... generally, I think it's a pipe dream.

Feel free to link any specific product... maybe they'll convince me. I happen to think Seafoam is pretty handy for certain things even if it isn't the miracle cure for all automotive troubles that it's sometimes reputed to be.

 

[Mark W]

I have 4 Toyotas. 435k-80 Series, 285k -GX-470, 340k-Corolla, 345k-4-Runner. I believe in oil and gas additives. Seafoam, Lucus, and Marvel's. They all are good for different things. Yes I believe in SNAKE oil. I would like to improve mpg. To think that software has not improved since 1996? I'm sure it has. These chips are software amendments. There are numerous ones out there. Just trying to find someone that has seen good results. I should have stated I use snake oil, lol

Since you happily admit that you will believe bull**** if it sounds like what you want to hear... Sure bud, I have just what you need. Cash app me $1375 and I will send you a can of magic s*** that will gain you 195 HP and 27 MPG. I promise it will work. If it does't I will tell you that you just used it incorrectly and ****- all if you want your money back.

Seriously ?

While you do not come right out and state it, it is pretty clear that you are not coming from a position of high expertise and experience in the subject of Land Cruisers. Not a damn thing wrong with that. Most people are pretty informed and knowledgeable on something. No one is highly informed and knowledgeable on everything. But you might want to listen to the advise that you came here to solicit. Even if it is not what you want to hear.

If there was a magic answer to gain power and economy in your Toyotas... why would we not all be using it?

But ignoring all that, here is a straight up answer to your question. Your '80 does not have a "chip" that can be replaced. IF you wanted to alter the ECU, you would have to replace it completely. Hardware not software. There is no "upgraded" ECU available. There ya go. End of quest.

I guess that you could try the magnets on your fuel line, the tornado generator in your intake or maybe the hydrogen brewery under the hood too. If you could find one of the old Jones Schneider DeKalb units that would certainly do the trick. But it has been years since I even heard mention of those.

Mark...

 

[Mark W]

I happen to think Seafoam is pretty handy for certain things even if it isn't the miracle cure for all automotive troubles that it's sometimes reputed to be.

If you read the fine print closely enough I *think* it cures male patter baldness too.


Mark...

 

[Marvelicious]

If you read the fine print closely enough I *think* it cures male patter baldness too.


Mark...

Eh, it seems to do alright as a fuel stabilizer and it's pretty good at dissolving varnish in carbs. That's my use case, I throw a few ounces in the lawnmower gas once or twice a year... though maybe I'm using it right for baldness, because I've still got most of my hair.

 

[AussieHJCruza]

If your engine is forced induction, they may do something. Bit more boost, bit more timing, little bit leaner for a gasoline engine, more injector duration, fuel rail pressure, timing and boost for a diesel. Use at your own risk, have seen some that are safe and some that'll be fatal for the engine if you run them for a while.
On an N/A engine, you're limited by airflow, you'll need physical mods to do anything more than 5-10% gain. Cams, headwork, bump in compression ratio etc.

 

[mudgudgeon]

Sure bud, I have just what you need. Cash app me $1375 and I will send you a can of magic s*** that will gain you 195 HP and 27 MPG. I promise it will work. If it does't I will tell you that you just used it incorrectly and ****- all if you want your money back.

I'll take 3 HiClones as well!

 

[Squeegee]

I have 4 Toyotas. 435k-80 Series, 285k -GX-470, 340k-Corolla, 345k-4-Runner. I believe in oil and gas additives. Seafoam, Lucus, and Marvel's. They all are good for different things. Yes I believe in SNAKE oil. I would like to improve mpg. To think that software has not improved since 1996? I'm sure it has. These chips are software amendments. There are numerous ones out there. Just trying to find someone that has seen good results. I should have stated I use snake oil, lol

If you’re interested in better mpg I’d recommend swapping in an om606

 

[manofthewoods]

If you read the fine print closely enough I *think* it cures male patter baldness too.


Mark...

Reminds me of the late Ron Popeil...
It dices, slices and if you act now...

What we really need is a turbo encabulator.
Google it and watch the video.

 

[Grouseman]

If your engine is forced induction, they may do something. Bit more boost, bit more timing, little bit leaner for a gasoline engine, more injector duration, fuel rail pressure, timing and boost for a diesel. Use at your own risk, have seen some that are safe and some that'll be fatal for the engine if you run them for a while.
On an N/A engine, you're limited by airflow, you'll need physical mods to do anything more than 5-10% gain. Cams, headwork, bump in compression ratio etc.

10% gain would be fabulous...

 

[Grouseman]

There are numerous chips online for sale. Most have a money back guarantee. Numerous reviews saying how their mpgs went up. Typical prices are around $100.00.

 

[mudgudgeon]

10% gain would be fabulous...

Go back to a close to original configuration s possible. Stock tire size. Stock gearing. No lift. No heavy accesories/armor. Nothing on the roof. Trim any unnecesary weight carried in or on the vehicle

80s are a 30 year old rolling brick. Technology is old. Components are worn and not in optimal condition.

Rebuild/refresh the engine and driveline. New head, new sensors, new piston rings, bearings throughout, rebuild transmission etc so everything is running at optimum ad new efficiency. You might see 10% gain and more power.

Swap out your auto transmission with a 5 speed manual, you'll see a 10% gain.

Swap in a modern fuel efficient V8.

Fit a turbo.

Swap in a diesel, you'll see 25-50% economy gain.

All these things have one thing in common. It'll cost you 5, 10, 20k, and you'll never recoupe the cost through fuel savings.