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i was looking at the red tops! now if the optima guy is still on here what is the guarantee on the red top.
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here is my new power plant!
Good choice.
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it has a better warranty than this...
optima's red top 6V, 12V Passenger Vehicle / Light Truck (noncommercial) 36 Months Free Replacement
optima's yellow top D34/78, D75/25, D34, D35, D51, D51R Automotive, LTV, Commercial, Car Audio 36 months free replacement
optima's red top 6V, 12V Passenger Vehicle / Light Truck (noncommercial) 36 Months Free Replacement
optima's yellow top D34/78, D75/25, D34, D35, D51, D51R Automotive, LTV, Commercial, Car Audio 36 months free replacement
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die hard platinum has a 96 month total warranty. 48 months free replacement and the remainder 48 months prorated!
OK here's a question Jim... How could you guys send those jobs to Mexico!? Optima was made in USA and we could be proud. No more I guess.
I sent you this PM Jim. Please forward to corporate or whatever...
"I have purchaced nothing but optimas for my vehicles for about the last 15 years. They have been a good quality product and they were made in the USA providing jobs for American families. Now that I know you guys have sent you manufacturing outside the US I will be looking to buy sometning else. I do not doubt that the Mexican plant can make a good product, and I'm sure your bottom line will look better, but sending our jobs out of country is just plain wrong!
I worked in a plywood plant for a large portion of my life and our entire plant was shut down due to cheap subsidized Canadian forrest products. We had to sell our home and live off our equity while I started from skratch. We moved several times and now after 5 years we are finally in a home of our own and starting to recover finacially. This was a real wake up call for me. While I cannot change foreign trade policy and my vote really doesn't count, I can change my purchasing choices.
I will never buy another optima untill you move your manufacturing back within our borders.
I will encourage every 4WD enthusiast I know to buy something else. Maybe if everyone stops buying optimas your company will understand how badly these types of decisions hurt America."
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well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks. Time to start putting our money were our mouth is.
Hi cruiser88, thanks for the welcome. To clarify some of the confusion, Optima is owned by Johnson Controls. Interstate is a distributor of the products but does not own the brand. As for the manufacturing, the previous plant had very high quality processes and standards, and produced excellent batteries. The facility in Monterrey, Mexico, however, was built with brand-new equipment and more automated processes for greater precision. It’s a state-of-the-art facility and the Optima team is proud of it – so much that we even produced a video and shared it on our website- Contact Optima Batteries à Contact Us - Customer Service - Public Relations - Advertising
More importantly, we still stand by the same quality standards. In fact, Optima saw an increase in product quality after building the new facility. The batteries being made today are a reflection of our continuing effort to produce the best possible product and are the best we have ever built.
Our hope is that all of our retail partners will recommend YellowTops to customers who use winches, but we understand that isn’t always possible. Part of the reason for my presence on this message board and hundreds of others, is to help educate consumers about the importance of selecting a deep-cycle battery for a deep-cycle application.
toy4xfun, your truck appears to have a winch. If you are considering an Optima for an application with a winch (even if you don’t use it often), we strongly recommend a YellowTop. All new RedTops and YellowTops come with three-year free replacement warranties.
H8PVMNT, I did receive your PM and will certainly foward your feedback to the appropriate parties. If anyone has any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. I appreciate your interest in Optima!
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
More importantly, we still stand by the same quality standards. In fact, Optima saw an increase in product quality after building the new facility. The batteries being made today are a reflection of our continuing effort to produce the best possible product and are the best we have ever built.
Our hope is that all of our retail partners will recommend YellowTops to customers who use winches, but we understand that isn’t always possible. Part of the reason for my presence on this message board and hundreds of others, is to help educate consumers about the importance of selecting a deep-cycle battery for a deep-cycle application.
toy4xfun, your truck appears to have a winch. If you are considering an Optima for an application with a winch (even if you don’t use it often), we strongly recommend a YellowTop. All new RedTops and YellowTops come with three-year free replacement warranties.
H8PVMNT, I did receive your PM and will certainly foward your feedback to the appropriate parties. If anyone has any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. I appreciate your interest in Optima!
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
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jim i was running a yellow top, i had two yellow tops both went bad, the first one i had in there was 4 years old, i swapped it out for the one in my 95 4runner and it went bad at 5 years old, the problem i have is both went bad after using my winch, neither pull was a hard pull, i pulled my neighbors econo boxes up their drive way during inclement weather.
that said i plan on testing my winch to make sure that there is not a problem with it.
that said i plan on testing my winch to make sure that there is not a problem with it.
Thanks Jim!
Hey what is the big difference between the yellow top and blue top?
I have been running mostly blue tops over the years and seem to have had better success than alot of guys I know who have run red and yellow.
Hey what is the big difference between the yellow top and blue top?
I have been running mostly blue tops over the years and seem to have had better success than alot of guys I know who have run red and yellow.
Thanks for the feed back and the link
So tell me guys, who sells the best USA made non-spillable winching battery. I have three trucks with yellow-tops between 5 & 7 years old and the red-top in my 4runner (that does the most winching by the way) is over 9 years old. I have never had issue with the quality of Optima batteries, but I didn't know they were foreign made either. May sound funny for a guy that has a bunch of Japanese trucks to buy American, but in my defense, the trucks are all old and I wasn't pissed off about off-shoring back then. Is "Made in the USA" too much to ask?
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no it is not, read through this thread you will see the batteries you are looking for , the diehard platinum is an agm made by Odyssey!
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optimajim, talk to your boss about the price of his batteries and the guarantee on them even your red top does not match!
As many folks have said the older Optimas were great batteries. I had one for about 5-6 years when I pulled it out just because I was starting to not trust it. It sat in the backyard for two years, then I charged it up and installed it in my FJ40. It was there for another year before I pulled it out and installed a Sears Platinum Marine.
The Optima in my 4Runner which is about 3 years old is starting to show issues (11.x V in the morning). I have a winch, but it hasn't been used with this battery. In addition, all of my non-OEM accessories like my CB, HAM, and fridge run off an aux Odyssey battery. Sooner than later the Optima will also be replaced with a Sears Marine.
The Optima in my 4Runner which is about 3 years old is starting to show issues (11.x V in the morning). I have a winch, but it hasn't been used with this battery. In addition, all of my non-OEM accessories like my CB, HAM, and fridge run off an aux Odyssey battery. Sooner than later the Optima will also be replaced with a Sears Marine.
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well pappy it boils down to this if optima claims to have the best battery than they should have the balls to stand behind it with a guarantee that is beyond what others battery manufactures offer!
H8PVMNT, the big differences between the YellowTop and BlueTop are the additional, threaded auxiliary top posts on the BlueTop and the length of the warranty (three years for the YellowTop vs. two years for the BlueTop). Internally, the batteries are identical (34M BlueTops are the marine version of Group 34 RedTops).
toy4xfun, we try to be as straightforward as possible with our warranty, because we know many companies use confusing warranties as marketing tools. Some companies may offer longer warranties to gain market share or even shelf space at a specific retailer, while others may offer long warranties, but begin pro-ration immediately. A multitude of exclusions that will void warranties for specific conditions may also be included, like batteries discharged below 10 volts.
If any battery fails due to a manufacturing defect, it is likely to happen well within the first year of ownership. If a new Optima fails within the first three years, we’ll replace it with no pro-ration. Our batteries are widely available, but we don’t re-brand or re-spec them for anyone, so you won’t find them everywhere. We hope the balance between the quality of our batteries and the length of our warranty is appealing to consumers. At the same time, we understand there will always be consumers whose primary concern is the length of warranty. Companies like Kia and Hyundai have done a good job of catering to that crowd, but there still seems to be plenty of folks who prefer other brands.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
toy4xfun, we try to be as straightforward as possible with our warranty, because we know many companies use confusing warranties as marketing tools. Some companies may offer longer warranties to gain market share or even shelf space at a specific retailer, while others may offer long warranties, but begin pro-ration immediately. A multitude of exclusions that will void warranties for specific conditions may also be included, like batteries discharged below 10 volts.
If any battery fails due to a manufacturing defect, it is likely to happen well within the first year of ownership. If a new Optima fails within the first three years, we’ll replace it with no pro-ration. Our batteries are widely available, but we don’t re-brand or re-spec them for anyone, so you won’t find them everywhere. We hope the balance between the quality of our batteries and the length of our warranty is appealing to consumers. At the same time, we understand there will always be consumers whose primary concern is the length of warranty. Companies like Kia and Hyundai have done a good job of catering to that crowd, but there still seems to be plenty of folks who prefer other brands.
Jim McIlvaine
eCare Manager, OPTIMA Batteries, Inc.
www.facebook.com/optimabatteries
Well:
ODYSSEY® batteries are manufactured by EnerSys Energy Products Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of EnerSys. EnerSys® is a global leader in stored energy solutions for automotive, military and industrial applications. With manufacturing facilities in 17 countries, sales and service locations throughtout the world, and over 100 years of battery experience, EnerSys is a powerful partner for automotive, marine, heavy duty equipment and powersports service and parts providers.
If they are a global company with manufacturing in 17 countries do the Sears batteries say made in the USA or something?
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i will check mine, i do know that it has 4 years free replacement, and another 4 years prorated!