ONSC Chat (3 Viewers)

[pkniland]

Almost. If the tree saver wraps around the tree and BOTH ends are connected to the shackle then load on the tree saver is 10,000#. The shackle at the snatch block = 20,000#, but the shackle connected to the vehicle is 10,000# (the pull on the vehicle is 20,000# but it is coming from 2 different connect points). The snatch block and the tree = 20,000#.

10-4. Appreciate the help.

 

[lt1fire]

Looking for a little help. My wife bought me a Superwinch LP10,000 for my birthday. I am working to put the my kit together and just want any advice or comments. Here is the list i plan on going with

20,000WLL snatch block
https://www.amazon.com/ARB-Products...dp/B0010E5RAI?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
26,500lb tree saver
https://www.amazon.com/ARB-Products...dp/B0010E5RAI?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
13,000 WLL Shackles (x2)
Crosby 7/8" G-209 Screw Pin Anchor Shackle - 6-1/2 Ton WLL - #1018516
10,500WLL Soft Shackles (x2)
Soft Shackles, Tube Savers & Load Equalizing Bridles : 1/2" Southeast Overland Soft Shackle | Southeast Overland

I'm setting this up to handle a double line pull, I just dont quite understand the dynamics of how the load is distributed across the components in a double line pull. The soft shackles are for singles only.

Any help is appreciated.

Rice pretty much nailed it all for you. If you are looking for buying the products, give Viking Offroad/Winchline.com a call. They are two of the most knowledgeable buys for winching and winching accessories that i've ever talked to and pretty much what every review for them says. Nicest guys on the planet also.

Viking Offroad Vehicle Customization and Tuning

 

[RedHeadedStepChild]

Taking the above 1 step further:

A sheckle for the 1st one to explain how to winch backwards with a front mounted winch (no cheating and looking on-line) and NO it isn't running the line under (or over ) your rig.

Any extra sheckle if you can explain why it works.

 

[Rice]

Am I allowed to play?

 

[RedHeadedStepChild]

Am I allowed to play?

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Looks like you have.
Now, for those who can't visualize the change in pulley positioning, we just need a clear explanation of why this doesn't pull your frame apart.
Anyone, anyone, Rice?

 

[tgadd]

Is it necessary that the bottom left pulley is positioning closer to the vehicle than the anchor point?

And is it true that the pulley attached to the rear of the vehicle is going to be pulled towards the bottom left pulley?

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Looks like you have.
Now, for those who can't visualize the change in pulley positioning, we just need a clear explanation of why this doesn't pull your frame apart.
Anyone, anyone, Rice?

As the winch pulls in, it'll reduce the overall line length. Since, due to the snatch block on the vehicle at the rear, there is 20k of force on the rear and 10k force to the front, you'll have a net 10k rearwards. The vehicle will move towards the rear by the amount of the bottom right line segment and the line length from the front bumper towards the front snatch block will increase by the same amount.

Is it necessary that the bottom left pulley is positioning closer to the vehicle than the anchor point?

Nope, not necessary.

And is it true that the pulley attached to the rear of the vehicle is going to be pulled towards the bottom left pulley?

Technically it'll be pulled towards the midpoint between the bottom left and bottom right anchor points.

 

[Rice]

 

[Rice]

Looks like you have.
Now, for those who can't visualize the change in pulley positioning, we just need a clear explanation of why this doesn't pull your frame apart.
Anyone, anyone, Rice?

Well, actually, there is 10,000# of tension on the frame (in our pretend pic) .... so if deeply infected with Toyota Cancer (rust) you can rip the rig apart.

 

[stevezero]

The Tacoma SNAP!!!

Or in this case, a wagoneer

Granted, it was more than just a little stuck....

What force is involved in doin this???

 

[lt1fire]

That must have happened in the 80's

 

[Rice]

Brent wanted to add to the conversation. According to him this is the rigging needed to get up the first ledge on Daniel.

I can only assume he means driving a h**p with a sheared rear pinion, 4 flat tires, and a twisted front driveshaft.

 

[stevezero]

Trucks arent the only victims...Modified camper vans get hit too...

 

[stevezero]

Brent needs to open his own recovery business. He'd make a fortune.

Those were sometime in the 2000's at Cape Lookout, where Lincoln did his report from.
The Cherokee was 1999, the van was sept 99, after Dennis hit the island.

Typical CALO extraction...just to get this tow truck onto the island is $750.00, because you have to rent the entire ferry to get it over. Theres a pic somewhere of it hanging the front wheels in the air. I just cant find it.

 

[stevezero]

My wife sees these pictures, and doesnt look at the trucks, she says "would you look at all those shells? why arent they picking them up???"

 

[pawwright]

Looks like you have.
Now, for those who can't visualize the change in pulley positioning, we just need a clear explanation of why this doesn't pull your frame apart.
Anyone, anyone, Rice?

omg, sometimes I think I am smart and then engineers and others come along and just make me want to go move dirt piles from one side of the yard to the other......

 

[JohnVee]

Brent wanted to add to the conversation. According to him this is the rigging needed to get up the first ledge on Daniel.

I can only assume he means driving a h**p with a sheared rear pinion, 4 flat tires, and a twisted front driveshaft.

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I think he has an abstract portrait happening there on the left. Might wanna make friends with the art teachers at school. Do they still have those?

 

[fj40z]

I think he has an abstract portrait happening there on the left. Might wanna make friends with the art teachers at school. Do they still have those?

Barely, my wife is one. Won't be long though and all of that will be cut out.

 

[Rice]

Barely, my wife is one. Won't be long though and all of that will be cut out.

Not too many years before I retire .... Ashley can take over my gig. She can still teach art ..... No one will know.

 

[NCFJ]

All that rigging is why I mounted the winch to a tray and ran wire to the back of the FJC. Just attach the tray to the 2" receiver, plug it in and winch backward.