not sure how someone can comment on the wings being 'weak' when there are no pics showing whats going on inside the bumper where they mount? regardless, ive been a journeyman ironworker for 8 years now and build hospitals and schools that are designed to survive californias earthquakes...that doesnt make me an engineer by any means or an expert for that matter, but the wings are far from 'weak' and i can provide pics or crash videos if you have any realistic requests for 'proof'...theres over thirty years of collective fab and welding experience in this shop currently, not to mention an AWS certified welder whos beads are ultrasonic tested and magnafluxed daily at the 'day job' by FEMA CWIs...if you arent familiar, thats as stringent as quality control gets in the structural steel industry.
why dont you call slee and tell them there bumpers are 'weak' and let me know what type of responce you get
btw, your constructive critism is very much appreciated and wanted. you will not offend anyone here at binskfab.com. one of the main reasons this thread is here on a public forum is for that. having said that mj80, i need to know what your 'experience' is and why i need to 'trust you'? feel free to venture over to pirate4x4.com and search my screen name, youll see my last two one ton tacoma builds and further back(about ten years worth) of truck builds, about one rig a year. ive got a **** load of experience and buckets of knowlege, thanks to public forums and the info/experience available collectively...'bink' has even more years of 'experience' and has been running a fab shop in california and previously pennsylvania since he was outta high school...
For starters i can see whats behind the wings, oops and i can also see exactly how they mount, oops again. Add that that the fact you haven't denied it and posted pics of the bracing to disprove me id say you haven't got any behind there or that they are a very recent addition.
Slees bumpers are not weak so i wont be calling them as you can clearly see here they have EXACTLY what im telling you to add in their design, oops.
Also i dont really care about all your experience, im commenting on what i can see right here , right now. ARB for example has how many years in the business ? and they still cant produce a good looking bar, so that counts for little. Again your previous builds aren't relevant here either this is about this bar right here and the lack of strength in the wings. Lean that thing into a tree even at slow pace and it will dis-form.
Why should you trust me ? we actually built a bar just like this a long time before you did, quite remarkable how similar they are in design, you even built it the same way we did. So ill finish this post the same way i finished my first one, your wings are weak and if you intend on mass producing this you will need to address that because you will have alot of unhappy customers when they deform their bar on something a conventional one would have withstood.
To those that took my first post as a "jab" grow up children, just because something isnt full of praise and lolly pops and isn't what you want to hear dosnt mean its a jab, its constructive criticism hes called me on the points iv made and iv totally proved all of them, its what good discussion is about. I could go on but i need to go to work
