Off road first aid, any qualified CSC members

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This reminds me, I need a prostate exam.


are you sure a prostate is all that important to wilderness survival ?

:lol:


and, what wilderness are we talking about, anyway ?
 
I have been an EMT and Wilderness First Responder for 10 years now. I guide outdoor adventure trips for a living. There is a huge difference between any form of regular first-aid class and the wilderness first aid and first responder courses. The first just prepares you to call 911 and do cpr. The second ones prepare you for a backcountry medical or trauma situation where you are more than 2 hours from definitive care. You learn everything from the physiology behind the problem, to how to stablize it, to how to handle and manage evacuation. The Wilderness First Aid course is over a weekend and the Wilderness First Responder course is a 40 hour course. They both cover the same things but with the second go much more in depth and with a lot more hands on practice. I think they are invaluable for anyone venturing away from paved roads.


Agree completely, I've taken both regular first aid and wilderness. There is no comparison. Regular teaches you how to keep someone alive for five minutes. Wilderness assumes that EMS isn't available and you're it.
 
The thing I liked about the Wilderness First Responder course is that it teaches you how to think through the problem. How not to make bad decisions and triaging. The scenarios they put you through really can make you feel like a cold and callous jerk, especially on the SnR side of things.

steristrips and super glue. My favorite addition to my first aid kit.
 
I have more than the basic first aid training. I attended a combat life saving/first responder course multiple times in the military as well as a more advanced course taught by a Special Forces medic. I always carry a "CLS" bag in my truck. Probably overkill for what most will experience unless you're in a pretty major accident or find yourself in a gunfight with some cartel folks
 
saw this story elsewhere, reminded me of this thread...

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller
So we had a really really good time and all but I gotta tell you all about our day yesterday while it's still fresh in my skull.

Normal morning at the campground. We had agreed to meet at 10:30 and roll down the mountain to Dupont State Park and go for a waterfall hike.
No problem.

We get down to the Pisgah Ranger station on 276 and stop for maps/trinkets/potty, etc.
A young couple approach me in the parking lot, compliment the Jeep (earn points), and ask if we'd be able to pull their stuck vehicle out of a ditch.
Why not.
So I grab Jackie and we speed off behind these kids to their stuck vehicle. I forget what kind it is; ask Jackie.
I drop off Jackie, swing the Jeep around, two little pulls later with the new winch (thanks guys!) and they're free. Grateful, wiser. Nice kids.

So Jackie and I are feeling somewhat heroic and motor back to the ranger station. We load all of the vehicles back up and are about to pull out of the parking lot ----- and in speeds a pickup truck, horn blaring, 4-ways flashing. Young fellow jumps out right in front of me screaming "MEDICAL ERERGENCY!!!" and runs toward the station.
I call everybody on the radio, pull in the grass. The other SEES trucks circle around.
Doug and I meet with the guy. He's just carried his buddy down the mountain fireman-style.
Rattlesnake bite. Deep. 45 minutes ago.
EMS activated, we get the survivor (don't want to call him a victim...) out and in the shade and begin to treat him for shock. He's in really rough shape. Vitals are very weak, eyes not responding. But he can still talk.
A doctor shows up but there's nothing he can do either. We keep him comfy and hand him off to paramedics.

Adrenalin rush over, we went for a casual lunch and then the hike. It was lovely. A bit warm but I'm pretty sure we all hugged our loved ones tighter than normal last night.
That poor dude. I tried to call and find out his condition but HIPPA prevented it.

Doug has taken Wilderness First Aid. It's a good example for us all. I'm looking into it and Mirtes also wants to take it.
 
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