Obituary and 3FE Oil Galley Plug (1 Viewer)

[l1coeea9]

Well, I'm of a certain age now and filling out my Medicare application forms. Can cause one to ponder their mortality. Told the that I want included in my obituary, someday, "Survived by his meticulously maintained 1991 FJ80 3FE Toyota Landcruiser."

On a technical note I have recently seen some talk about a dreaded oil galley plug on the 60 series and to include the 80 series 3FE (1991 & 1992).

Links here:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil-galley-plug-fixes.346362/#post5103955

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my-first-galley-plug-fix.351460/#post5161284

Has anyone with an 80 series experienced this problem or done this as PM?

This plug is hidden behind one of the hoses by the # 5 spark plug on my truck, but I don't see any weeping or leaking of oil.

I'd be particularly interested in what Jonheld has to say.

I've got 264K+ miles and no issues with this (so far). What says the forum?

Thanks.

Ed

 

[jonheld]

I equate this issue to the head gasket issue with the 1FZ-FE. It can be a problem, and has been for some.
The plug is a filler put in after machining of the head and is a press fit. It has come loose and blown out on several 3FE engines, pumping all the oil out the side of the motor.
Certainly it is worth "repairing" if the head is off, but it would be an incredible PITA to do this with everything in place. I have thought about cleaning the area well and smearing a dollop of JB Weld to act as a bandage in the event of a failure, but haven't done anything about it in the past 25 years and don't lose any sleep over it.

 

[Izeloz]

I did it as PM. It was a pain in the neck and I had to buy a 90 degree angle drill attachment to get in there. It takes patience and/or facility with a wide lexicon of curse words. I put two plugs in one after another with high temp. thread sealant and then sealed the head behind the plugs with JB weld.

 

[l1coeea9]

I equate this issue to the head gasket issue with the 1FZ-FE. It can be a problem, and has been for some.
The plug is a filler put in after machining of the head and is a press fit. It has come loose and blown out on several 3FE engines, pumping all the oil out the side of the motor.
Certainly it is worth "repairing" if the head is off, but it would be an incredible PITA to do this with everything in place. I have thought about cleaning the area well and smearing a dollop of JB Weld to act as a bandage in the event of a failure, but haven't done anything about it in the past 25 years and don't lose any sleep over it.

Thanks. My truck will be 25 years old in October 2015 and so far so good. If you're sleeping well, I will too. I'll take a peek at it every time I've got the hood open.................

 

[l1coeea9]

I did it as PM. It was a pain in the neck and I had to buy a 90 degree angle drill attachment to get in there. It takes patience and/or facility with a wide lexicon of curse words. I put two plugs in one after another with high temp. thread sealant and then sealed the head behind the plugs with JB weld.

Thanks. If mine starts to seep I'll ship it to Provo for you to handle and I'll hold the light................

 

[LS1FJ40]

Meh. I'm confident that I have enough leaks that there isn't enough pressure to force the plug out on mine.

 

[LandCruisinMy93]

Funny, I went and looked at a pretty neglected 92 fj80 last weekend to buy as a test platform/parts rig for my diesel swap. Getting it next weekend for $1900 because at 249k the engine lost all of its oil going up hill and burned up some bearings. Looking at the engine all of the oil was on the last 3 cylinders coming out of the top somewhere that the guys mechanics couldn't locate....ding ding ding...we have a winner comes to mind now hat I've seen this thread.
So, speaking of. Anybody in need of any engine sensors or hard parts?

 

[jonheld]

Without knowing that that galley plug is there, it would be hard to locate after the engine died. The entire right side would be soaked in oil as you can imagine how much of a mess 8 quarts under pressure would make.
However it would be pretty rustproof on that side.

 

[808wheeler]

Well, I'm of a certain age now and filling out my Medicare application forms. Can cause one to ponder their mortality. Told the that I want included in my obituary, someday, "Survived by his meticulously maintained 1991 FJ80 3FE Toyota Landcruiser."

On a technical note I have recently seen some talk about a dreaded oil galley plug on the 60 series and to include the 80 series 3FE (1991 & 1992).

Links here:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/oil-galley-plug-fixes.346362/#post5103955

https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my-first-galley-plug-fix.351460/#post5161284

Has anyone with an 80 series experienced this problem or done this as PM?

This plug is hidden behind one of the hoses by the # 5 spark plug on my truck, but I don't see any weeping or leaking of oil.

I'd be particularly interested in what Jonheld has to say.

I've got 264K+ miles and no issues with this (so far). What says the forum?

Thanks.

Ed

I had a freeze plug pop out on my old Honda Prelude in Highschool. This was such a rare occurrence being A) It was Hawaii, and 2) no mechanic had ever seen this ever happen. Even the most senior tech at the time (a 30 year Honda certified mechanic from Japan) had no idea that there was even a plug in that particular area of the motor..... Since then I always check the entire motor whenever I do a service or oil change on my cars.

The point of this rambling is- If it is a point of concern, even slightly , you should take steps to adequately prevent or at least mitigate the potential for failure.

 

[TEXASYETI]

Replaced the galley plug on my 2F. Went easy peezy because the engine was out of the truck and all accessories were removed. Would hate to make that repair with the engine in the vehicle.

 

[Zezima288]

To my surpise. I wouldn't have ever expected this to happen to me on my 1991 FJ80. My oil pressure dropped half way before I parked and shut off my truck. This occured to me at 232k miles. What was nice is that Toyota sells the plug for cheap, and I ended up replacing the plug EASILY into the engine by freezing it in dry ice. That was 3k miles ago and I've had no problems since. The plug wasn't threaded too. I only removed the entire intake and a couple of hoses to replace it. No needing to take out everything, took me 20 minutes to fix. Thankfully my eagle eye caught the oil pressure drop quick or I'd be in for a rebuild.

 

[MrMoose]

I think it's really hit or miss if it affects you or not. However, I did read that if you have your rebuilt, that it's a must to take care of since it's more likely to fail after being cleaned/hot tanked/etc. Machine shop drilled out the old plug, tapped, and and double plugged it when I had my head rebuilt for a used short block. No issues before, and don't foresee any issues in the future.

 

[studawg]

Replaced the galley plug on my 2F. Went easy peezy because the engine was out of the truck and all accessories were removed. Would hate to make that repair with the engine in the vehicle.

I actually watched @Trollhole do it on an 87 60 for me recently, with a right angle drill, in under an hour. Didn't have to remove a thing, It was impressive. Is the plug in the same place on the 3FE as it is on the 2F?

(That 2F had about 180k on it and was definitely leaking a good bit from the plug.)

 

[krzyabncanuck]

Yes they are the same. I bought a right angle drill just for this.

Sent from my SM-G920V

 

[surfpig]

Replaced the galley plug on my 2F. Went easy peezy because the engine was out of the truck and all accessories were removed. Would hate to make that repair with the engine in the vehicle.

Mine started leaking in my newly rebuilt 2F, as a result of tanking the head they thought. They tapped in a hex head. All was good.

 

[pawnthatdude]

Does anyone know what sort of pressure is this plug under? Seems like it couldn't be much with just a press fit.