Nitto Terra Grappler vs Bridgestone Revo

[alaskacruiser]

collector- just reread your intended usage in your first post. Honestly, if you want a *softer* ride for more comfortable highway performance, I can't think of a better tire than the original Michelins. If yours are worn, a new set would be great. I have a '97 Lexus LX450 with the softer suspension and it has the infamous side-to-side swaying problem due to softer shocks (the LC does not have this problem), and the Revo's stiffer sidewalls almost completely fixed this problem for me. But the ride has gotten stiffer and you can definitely feel the bumps more and hear the tires a little bit more than the Michelins. Keep in mind that the Revos are known for their comfortable ride and quiet highway performance in addition to being a decent A/T tire offroad, so I'm willing to bet any of the other tires you are considering will just be worse in terms of ride comfort. If I were you, I'd just stick with the stock size Michelins.

People here generally like bigger tires because they provide additional ground clearance and better traction for offroad performance, and some like them because they "look cool". Especially considering you'll be using your rig exclsuively on the highway and not offroad, and as a family hauler, the stock tires are the safest (less chance of rolling over with stock tire size), they are probably the quietest tire you can get for the LC, and they will provide you with the most comfortable ride IMHO.

 

[Tools R Us]

...The Nitto Terra's are super all aound tires, but seem to wear quickly. I have a set of 295's on a Ford Superduty and I don't expect to get any more than 30K out of them. A friend ran through a set on his GMC 2500 in less than 25K. Great tires. Super wet pavement performance, but don't expect them to last 50K...

My 295's have 23K miles on them and have 11/32" of the 16.5/32" that they came with new. I would say that 50K is easily doable. I beat mine pretty hard, dragging them across rocks with the lockers on, someone that didn't wheel them as hard would get better life?

Maybe that "superduty" and gmc could use some quality time on the alignment rack?

 

[spartan]

Nope - they are perfectly aligned and balanced.

The driver of the GMC uses his truck hard and fast. No uneven wear anywhere -the tire just plain wore out in no time flat. He uses everything hard and fast.

The Superduty driver is me and I drive nice and easy. Mostly highway miles and the tread is dissapearing rapidly. My Excursion outweighs the 80 LC by almost 2500# dry. That might have something to do with it. The tires are balanced perfect. Aired and rotated on a routine basis. I figure I'll get 30-35K functional miles.

From the photo, it doesn't look like those those tires will ever make 50K. The centerline tread wear indicators will probably show in another 5K. Keep us posted.

The Nitto's are super tires. I'll probably put another set on for their wet pavement performance and off road capability when the ones I have wear out. They are a great, reasonably priced, superior tire option to BFG AT's. On the other hand I would probably run Revo's if they came in the 295 size.

 

[e9999]

an Excursion is 8000+ lbs?

 

[hoser]

The largest '05 Excursion (6.8L) is 7190 lbs.
97 LC weighs 4751 lbs.
2439 lb difference

That Excursion is a big boy.... 50% heavier than the LC!

 

[tucker74]

Wow - stepped on lots of toes bashing on the Revos ... didn't mean to say they were exactly the same as the LTX M/S. They are a similar tire in terms of what they try to do - and yes they are slightly more aggressive than the Michelins. I've had bad experiences with a couple of sets of Bridgestone’s (Dueler M/T & AT) - so I'm a little biased I suppose ;p Another tire no one has brought up is the Michelin LTX AT ... this is a great tire, but unfortunately only comes in a 265/75R16. I've had three sets of these and actually got 100k out of them on a Trooper without them being worn excessively.

I have owned the LTX MS, BFG AT, Nitto, and MTR on an 80 ... and would go with the Nitto or BFG for a DD with light wheeling. This is again my $.02 (like I've stated in every other post).



Tucker

 

[collector_edi]

Very valuable information. I am looking not to sacrifice comfort and Ali determined yesterday that I need to replace all four. The PO indicated the rear two were relatively new and that wasn't exactly the case. I am looking forward to getting a whole set and possibly replacing the Toyota shocks with a shock that absorbs bumps a little better. I probably will go with a bigger Michelin or the Revos. The Geo's that I tested on Ali's were remarkably quite and nimble.

 

[spartan]

OK - so I can't remember everything anymore. I'm getting old. My Excursion GVWR is 8,900#.

My 2002 V10 truck specs at 7,232# dry stock. The stock 325HP has been bumped to at least 375 with mods. The torque is probably hovering arounf 500# now.

I've managed to stuff another 250# of crap into it - Hi-Lift jack, compressor, guns, ammo, flashlights, spares, etc.. I've also installed heavier springs, dual Bilstein gas shocks, Hellwig sway bars, rear radius rods and larger tires with stiffer sidewalls, etc.. This truck doesn't sway in corners - period.

It's only rated for a 1,750# payload capacity so now I can only carry 1,500#. Gosh I wish I had a real one ton truck.

The truck is a factory geared 4.3 4X4 XLT model so it's rated to tow 11,000# and I do it occasionaly to move fishing boats from one location to another. It's amazing where it will go for a big truck. Not on par with the 80 LC, but far better than any Suburban I've ever seen.

Back to the subject - the 295 Nittos on this truck are wearing fast. The BFG 35 12.5 16.5's before went 50K, but they got really slick on wet pavement for the last 20K. I dunno....

 

[chitown40]

Consumer Reports also rated the Geolander AT+II with near identical ratings to the Revos with the exception of snow traction and ice braking (Geo received poor ratings). Do you concur?

Lucky for us here in Chicago, we've had both snow storms AND ice storms this year so I got to test out the Geo's real well. Keep in mind my tires are relatively new, but they performed flawlessly with no sliding of any kind on both ice and snow. It's been wet here pretty much the past month, and they feel exactly like the REVOs I had on my old Rodeo. The tread depth is significantly deeper on the Geo' s and the tread pattern is similar to that of the REVOs. Price was a large factor for me since I was buying 5 tires. I saved about $35-40 per tire going with the GEOs. I'll report back with wear results in a few thousand miles.

 

[Rookie2]

I'll report back with wear results in a few thousand miles.

Anyone else have any comments/experiences regarding wear of the Geolander's?

 

[Tools R Us]

Anyone else have any comments/experiences regarding wear of the Geolander's?

PM MaddBaggins, he has had a set of 285 Yokos on his rig for about a year.

 

[ed97fzj80]

What was your exact impression? Do you have pictures to post? Did you go from Michelin's to Revo's. I am looking for improvement in ride quality. I probably should replace my shocks as well. Did the ride become more stiff or did you get a softer more absorbing ride?

"Improvement" and "quality" are fairly subjective. Mine firmed up quite a bit, and I get more feedback from the road than I did with the Michelins. To me that is an improvement, but if you're looking for a softer ride, these go the other way. I think any LT is going to go toward firm, since the sidewalls will be stiffer and stronger. Everything is a compromise.

Here are a couple of mediocre pictures of a stock truck with LT285/75R16 Revos.

HTH,

Ed

 

[collector_edi]

ed97fzj80:

Thanks for posting pics. I probably will go with the Revo set and have Bilstein shocks installed. I can't wait!

 

[alia176]

Bilstein shocks come in various flavors, so make sure you get the right valving!

 

[collector_edi]

Bilstein shocks come in various flavors, so make sure you get the right valving!

http://www.proamauto.com/page15bt27.htm

Thanks for the reminder. This is the result I get for OEM replacement. Do you agree?

 

[powderpig]

I would only do one thing at a time so you will be able to see what the difference on your truck is and can change a problem if you have one. You seem to what a ride that is equal to what you have currently. So if you do both at the same time it will take more work to find the componet that may be creating the ride you do not want. good luck robbie

 

[collector_edi]

I would only do one thing at a time so you will be able to see what the difference on your truck is and can change a problem if you have one. You seem to what a ride that is equal to what you have currently. So if you do both at the same time it will take more work to find the componet that may be creating the ride you do not want. good luck robbie

Point well taken.

 

[collector_edi]

No pictures yet?

 

[collector_edi]

I just installed Nokian Vatiivas on my 1994 LC DD and have been pretty happy. Rides a lot smoother than the previous Toyo Open Country AT. Snow and ice for the last 2 months here in central Oregon and no sliding. Cheap price ($550.00 for 4 mounted/balanced/out the door at the Tire Factory). I went with 265/75 16 because it was the only size they had on hand. No rock climbing, but great in the snow and ice and fit the stock suspension nicely (Look nice too - If that matters. I need to get a digital camera to put up some photos).

Riley

No pictures yet?

 

[PabloVTA]

those are the Bilstein's I have.

Real Schmoothe.
Then I put on the 285 Revo's.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4631/1218/1024/P1010069.jpg

mo' bettah!