Pskhaat
Tourer
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2023 TOYOTA SEQUOIA?
I can't even.
Next Gen Land Cruiser
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I can't even.
Is this guy for real? He literally said the Sequoia is the grown up version of the Land Cruiser. He needs to be smacked into reality. We need to report him to the Woketards and have him “CANCELLED” 
I think he was referring to the nex gen sequoia and 300 which I think are supposed to be on the same platform shared with the tundra.Is this guy for real? He literally said the Sequoia is the grown up version of the Land Cruiser. He needs to be smacked into reality. We need to report him to the Woketards and have him “CANCELLED”
So he’s assuming the 2023 will be sharing the 300 platform and have similar off-road chops. I would be shocked if they went that route, as I imagine most folks in the U.S are buying a Sequoia as a family hauler and don’t care about off-road capabilities. Maybe the next-gen Sequoia will catch up with the Infinity in terms of refinement and comfort. That would be the best play for Toyota, otherwise it’s an ugly oversized suv turd.
My cousin bought a Sequoia a couple years ago and asked me why I didn’t just buy it instead of my LC since the Sequoia is just as good off-road. 
That was a long conversation. 
It wouldn't be a total surprise to see a sequoia in Lexus trim slot above the LX. Or maybe be called the LX 750? It's what Lexus dealers have been begging for forever.
I'd be surprised to see a TTV8 in anything. Toyota doesn't really do the super high performance specialty models of anything. They tend to target right around the middle of the market. Lately they've been stingy with engine options too even when they are available to be used. Recent trends are not promising.
I'd be surprised to see a TTV8 in anything. Toyota doesn't really do the super high performance specialty models of anything. They tend to target right around the middle of the market. Lately they've been stingy with engine options too even when they are available to be used. Recent trends are not promising.
Let’s be honest. Even on here in the population on MUD 99% of the off-roading done in 200’s in the USA could be done in a Subaru Legacy. For the vast majority of LC/LX owners in the USA (even the ones with lifts, AT tires, racks, RTTs,…) the only time their tires leave the pavement is to jump a curb in the school pick up line or park on the grass at a kids soccer/lacrosse game.So he’s assuming the 2023 will be sharing the 300 platform and have similar off-road chops. I would be shocked if they went that route, as I imagine most folks in the U.S are buying a Sequoia as a family hauler and don’t care about off-road capabilities. Maybe the next-gen Sequoia will catch up with the Infinity in terms of refinement and comfort. That would be the best play for Toyota, otherwise it’s an ugly oversized suv turd.
heck even here in AK 75-90% of my off roading could be done in a Subaru Outback, new cherokee, rav4,… on AT tires with careful line selection.
Yes but the current V8 can really tow. It can handle
a boat or a horse trailer. I would think many USA owners have it as a cruiser that doubles as a very nice tow vehicle.
Prior to my Excursion being totaled, I was a Ford guy... I now have four Toyotas in the stable.
Ford only offers one engine in their Expedition, and according to JD Powers, reports are that they are terrific. Ford's twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter V-6 is reportedly generating ~375 horsepower at 5,000 rpm and making ~470 lb.-ft. of torque ~2,250 rpm. A 10-speed automatic powers the rear or all four wheels, and depending on body length and equipment, the Expedition can tow ~9,300 pounds.
There have been some complaints about the 10 speed box. In the Normal driving mode, the 10-speed automatic is sometimes reluctant to downshift, instead focusing on maximizing fuel economy. Switch to Sport mode, and this characteristic automatically disappears. Hell, in my
I delight in making my own gear selections manually to keep the under-tuned ('05) V8 in the power band.I think most of we MUD'rs believe a full-size SUV needs a V-8 engine, but until recently that was all we had. I've been really impressed by and have turned several domestic only buying friends onto the Ford Expedition for their twin-turbo V6. Several like to pull in the higher altitudes where thinner atmosphere can have negative effects on a normally aspirated engine’s power-band.
I believe the V8 is on it's way out of the SUV market folks and further, I believe the Yota engineers have demonstrated past performance in best-in-class
power from smaller displacements. Cheers mates,
G
Great post. Now really looking forward to seeing how the TTv6 (in the Lexus) can tow.Prior to my Excursion being totaled, I was a Ford guy... I now have four Toyotas in the stable.
Ford only offers one engine in their Expedition, and according to JD Powers, reports are that they are terrific. Ford's twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter V-6 is reportedly generating ~375 horsepower at 5,000 rpm and making ~470 lb.-ft. of torque ~2,250 rpm. A 10-speed automatic powers the rear or all four wheels, and depending on body length and equipment, the Expedition can tow ~9,300 pounds.
There have been some complaints about the 10 speed box. In the Normal driving mode, the 10-speed automatic is sometimes reluctant to downshift, instead focusing on maximizing fuel economy. Switch to Sport mode, and this characteristic automatically disappears. Hell, in my
I think most of we MUD'rs believe a full-size SUV needs a V-8 engine, but until recently that was all we had. I've been really impressed by and have turned several domestic only buying friends onto the Ford Expedition for their twin-turbo V6. Several like to pull in the higher altitudes where thinner atmosphere can have negative effects on a normally aspirated engine’s power-band.
I believe the V8 is on it's way out of the SUV market folks and further, I believe the Yota engineers have demonstrated past performance in best-in-class
Cheers mates,
G
I have a buddy with the same ~6800 lb camper I have. He has a new expedition. We camped the same place a few weeks back ~250 miles round trip. He passed me on the way down while I was traveling along at 55-60 mph. For the trip I got 8.7 mpg he got 14 mpg.Prior to my Excursion being totaled, I was a Ford guy... I now have four Toyotas in the stable.
Ford only offers one engine in their Expedition, and according to JD Powers, reports are that they are terrific. Ford's twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter V-6 is reportedly generating ~375 horsepower at 5,000 rpm and making ~470 lb.-ft. of torque ~2,250 rpm. A 10-speed automatic powers the rear or all four wheels, and depending on body length and equipment, the Expedition can tow ~9,300 pounds.
There have been some complaints about the 10 speed box. In the Normal driving mode, the 10-speed automatic is sometimes reluctant to downshift, instead focusing on maximizing fuel economy. Switch to Sport mode, and this characteristic automatically disappears. Hell, in my
I think most of we MUD'rs believe a full-size SUV needs a V-8 engine, but until recently that was all we had. I've been really impressed by and have turned several domestic only buying friends onto the Ford Expedition for their twin-turbo V6. Several like to pull in the higher altitudes where thinner atmosphere can have negative effects on a normally aspirated engine’s power-band.
I believe the V8 is on it's way out of the SUV market folks and further, I believe the Yota engineers have demonstrated past performance in best-in-class
Cheers mates,
G
Don't be fooled mates. This 200 series is just resting up for the next owner to make it less susceptible to High-G side slips...
It's Dubai. What's the bet this was the cheapest car in their garage?
azstreamer
GOLD Star
With smaller displacement twin turbo engines becoming an involuntary choice, one needs to buy the longest time and miles extended warranty and plan to sell or trade before either of the limits are exceeded. A twin turbo repair out of warranty will seriously melt even an AmEx card. At ten years out, the car would not be "worth" the repair bill.
azstreamer
GOLD Star
I think the sales add would read, fine one owner used car creatively driven in unusual places and style....
Pskhaat
Tourer
This is the plan, or at least is then plan for the "new" Toyota. Revenue awaits; there is little of any honor any longer for being a manufacturer of long-lived vehicles. Better business sense to be a throw-away, planned- obsolescence company.
MoJ
Moderator
That would go against the interviews with the 300 series development team regarding testing to failure points in extreme use conditions, 1 million kilometers worth of testing, etc. They also reaffirmed the requirement that the design must be more durable than the previous generation. Guess they could be lying but that’s certainly not something indicative of Japanese engineering culture.
Strangely I can recall reading an article about the new “100 series” which casted doubt that the new v8 could ever be as reliable as the outgoing inline 6.
Tech evolves.
azstreamer
GOLD Star
A straight six is the smoothest running naturally balnanced engine after a straight 12.
