New Member Intro - 2013 LX570 - Also an AHC Alert!!! (1 Viewer)

[lx200inAR]

I posted this in another thread, but it would be interesting to see if Toyota dealerships have stopped selling their fluid as well. I think that would shed some light on whether there is actually something wrong with the fluid. If there is, historically speaking, what will the recourse be for people who ha e already purchased the fluid? Especially if you DIY’d some job that needed the tainted fluid to be added.

 

[PDoyle]

I replaced fluid last year.No issues.

 

[NYC570]

I replaced my fluid a few months ago and then I replaced it again recently. No problems so far and everything works as it should.

 

[CHAOTIC]

I posted this in another thread, but it would be interesting to see if Toyota dealerships have stopped selling their fluid as well. I think that would shed some light on whether there is actually something wrong with the fluid. If there is, historically speaking, what will the recourse be for people who ha e already purchased the fluid? Especially if you DIY’d some job that needed the tainted fluid to be added.

So oddly enough, I actually gave the service advisor the part number for the Toyota fluid, as he was new and didn't seem to be an AHC expert unfortunately. The service director seemed to have all of the knowledge in the AHC realm and showed that the part number for Toyota was part of the no-go fluid.

 

[PDoyle]

So the New York batch is good.

I replaced my fluid a few months ago and then I replaced it again recently. No problems so far and everything works as it should.

Looks like the New York batch is good

 

[04UZJ100]

Wonder if the fluid in new cars is affected too?

 

[chalice]

Just spoke with a foreman at one of the biggest Lexus dealers in SoCal:

"Spoke with our parts director and he has no knowledge of the issue with the fluid and he has not received any emails from the factory about this. I check TIS (Toyota information system) and there is not documents about the fluid. I also reached out to our Lexus rep (FTS -field technical specialist) and he did a search and didn’t come up with anything about the fluid. The only thing he did mention was when bleeding the system have the tires completely off the ground. He says that’s the only way to ensure all the air is bled. That’s not in the repair manual."

 

[lx200inAR]

Just spoke with a foreman at one of the biggest Lexus dealers in SoCal:

"Spoke with our parts director and he has no knowledge of the issue with the fluid and he has not received any emails from the factory about this. I check TIS (Toyota information system) and there is not documents about the fluid. I also reached out to our Lexus rep (FTS -field technical specialist) and he did a search and didn’t come up with anything about the fluid. The only thing he did mention was when bleeding the system have the tires completely off the ground. He says that’s the only way to ensure all the air is bled. That’s not in the repair manual."

Never heard that. Does he mean, all tires in full droop?

 

[TomEf]

Never heard that. Does he mean, all tires in full droop?

All tires in full droop sounds very backwards. Definitely something the masses would like clarification on.

 

[CHAOTIC]

Just spoke with a foreman at one of the biggest Lexus dealers in SoCal:

"Spoke with our parts director and he has no knowledge of the issue with the fluid and he has not received any emails from the factory about this. I check TIS (Toyota information system) and there is not documents about the fluid. I also reached out to our Lexus rep (FTS -field technical specialist) and he did a search and didn’t come up with anything about the fluid. The only thing he did mention was when bleeding the system have the tires completely off the ground. He says that’s the only way to ensure all the air is bled. That’s not in the repair manual."

This is very interesting on both parts. The southern region Lexus dealers in my state all got the same email from their territory Lexus service representative to not use the current fluid, but other places seem to be immune to the issue? Obviously this situation makes absolutely no sense whatsoever at this point unfortunately. I'd also bet money my local dealer doesn't put the tires into full droop to do an AHC fluid exchange, especially if it's not in the manual. I barely trust them to follow the manual, let alone try new techniques.

 

[32cls6speedmt]

08886-81221 is now showing available on all the lexus dealerships and toyota dealership online.

 

[NYC570]

The first time I did mine (a few months ago) I bought it from my local lexus dealership. This last time, I bought it from McGeorge toyota.

 

[beer]

The service director is going to call me once they have a solution from Lexus of North America.

@CHAOTIC Any chance you heard back from the service director about a new part number? Trying to save myself from making a bunch of calls to figure out if I can use the fluid sitting on my shelf or not.

 

[lx200inAR]

Just spoke with a foreman at one of the biggest Lexus dealers in SoCal:

"Spoke with our parts director and he has no knowledge of the issue with the fluid and he has not received any emails from the factory about this. I check TIS (Toyota information system) and there is not documents about the fluid. I also reached out to our Lexus rep (FTS -field technical specialist) and he did a search and didn’t come up with anything about the fluid. The only thing he did mention was when bleeding the system have the tires completely off the ground. He says that’s the only way to ensure all the air is bled. That’s not in the repair manual."

Also, since we dug this thread up. Anyone else heard of the lifting tires off ground or at least have some commentary on why it might help. My two thoughts on the affects are that it draws as much fluid into the system as possible since shocks are at full extension and that it removes force acting on the system from the ends (i.e. the ground not pushing back up on the shocks). I don't know enough about hydraulic systems to know how air moves through them and why either of these factors would help with bleeding.

 

[CHAOTIC]

@CHAOTIC Any chance you heard back from the service director about a new part number? Trying to save myself from making a bunch of calls to figure out if I can use the fluid sitting on my shelf or not.

I had a small surgery and haven't had a chance to check back in. My plan was to wait until my 100K mile oil change service and just take it in at the end of August and see what they say. Depending on what part of the country you live in, it may have never been an issue for you. This may have only been a southeastern thing from the regional guy that froze it all. May not even have been fluid related, and more so an issue with a few techs who destroyed the AHC systems in the south and the regional Lexus service director just panicked.

 

[beer]

I had a small surgery and haven't had a chance to check back in. My plan was to wait until my 100K mile oil change service and just take it in at the end of August and see what they say. Depending on what part of the country you live in, it may have never been an issue for you. This may have only been a southeastern thing from the regional guy that froze it all. May not even have been fluid related, and more so an issue with a few techs who destroyed the AHC systems in the south and the regional Lexus service director just panicked.

Hope you're on the mend! I'm also in the southeast so trying to figure out if this is an actual issue or not.

 

[KJun]

Checked with a local dealer in NH and no current recall found in their system on 08886-81221. Planning to do this AHC fluid change soon and hoping my stock is good to use. Will report back if any issues encountered.

 

[NewBLX570]

Reposting to this thread:

I’m new to the forum. I just bought a 2010 Lexus LX 570 at 60k miles. Decided to take it to Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) to perform the AHC flush as recommended by FSM. Same issue, failures post flush and after replacement of front struts. Long story short, AHC pump broke and now they’re putting on me to pay approx. $3k for pump and labor in addition to $530 AHC drain and $1500 front struts (parts and labor). More to come. I pushed back and they’re working with corporate on next steps. Beyond frustrated since I initially took the rig for preventative maintenance.

 

[chalice]

Reposting to this thread:

I’m new to the forum. I just bought a 2010 Lexus LX 570 at 60k miles. Decided to take it to Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) to perform the AHC flush as recommended by FSM. Same issue, failures post flush and after replacement of front struts. Long story short, AHC pump broke and now they’re putting on me to pay approx. $3k for pump and labor in addition to $530 AHC drain and $1500 front struts (parts and labor). More to come. I pushed back and they’re working with corporate on next steps. Beyond frustrated since I initially took the rig for preventative maintenance.

That's who I've been chatting with about the fluid, and have had a few long talks with a few of the service leads there while I was working on mine at home. I need to follow up, but life got in the way. If you need any help shoot me a DM.

 

[CHAOTIC]

Reposting to this thread:

I’m new to the forum. I just bought a 2010 Lexus LX 570 at 60k miles. Decided to take it to Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) to perform the AHC flush as recommended by FSM. Same issue, failures post flush and after replacement of front struts. Long story short, AHC pump broke and now they’re putting on me to pay approx. $3k for pump and labor in addition to $530 AHC drain and $1500 front struts (parts and labor). More to come. I pushed back and they’re working with corporate on next steps. Beyond frustrated since I initially took the rig for preventative maintenance.

It's things like this that make me truly wonder just how much of an issue the fluid issue is, or if this is just some poorly completed maintenance by a bad tech. The fact that multiple people have had similar issues across different parts of the country make it even stranger to me.