New 80 Series from South America

[YosarianRem]

Hi,

A few months ago I found a Toyota website showing new 80 series available in South America, but I can't seem to find it again. Does anyone know about these. Seems to good to be true. Thanks

Andy

 

[pulse98]

http://www.toyota.com.ec/modelos_landCruiser80.html
http://www.toyota.com.ve/showroom/vx_autana/index.html

 

[YosarianRem]

That's it. Thanks

 

[kennyv0826]

http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/1709/Toyota/Land+Cruiser/car-for-sale.html

 

[kennyv0826]

Anyone know how many of these turbo diesel 80's have been imported to the US?

http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/1709/Toyota/Land+Cruiser/car-for-sale.html

 

[Grench]

Hmm... I wonder how much it would cost to import one of those brand spanking new 80s as a 'not for road use' vehicle. Could you then migrate the new truck into your old truck.

When you change major parts on a vehicle, I think you're supposed register the new mismatched VINs for the parts. So, if you swap the engine, thats fine. You register the new block VIN as being part of the old truck.

So, how many VINs are there on an 80? If you change out the parts that the VINs are on one per month through the whole vehicle, can you keep the now new vehicle registered as the old vehicle?

I.e. Can you have a 2006 South American market 80 registered as a '96 FZJ80 with all the parts changed if you take the time to swap everything in & out through a year or so?

Hmm...

 

[FirstToy]

I.e. Can you have a 2006 South American market 80 registered as a '96 FZJ80 with all the parts changed if you take the time to swap everything in & out through a year or so?

Hmm...

I think the actual problem is physically bringing it over the border w/o the feds knowing about it.

In Venezuela at least, my friends tell me the 80 series is so popular there is a 6 mo. waiting list. You have no choice on color, you just get what you get!

It would be cool to have a brand new one one can dream!

 

[firetruck41]

Go to the diesel tech forum here on mud and read the hundreds of posts about importing "newer" diesel LC's, it's nigh unto impossible.

 

[tarbe]

I think the actual problem is physically bringing it over the border w/o the feds knowing about it.

In Venezuela at least, my friends tell me the 80 series is so popular there is a 6 mo. waiting list. You have no choice on color, you just get what you get!

It would be cool to have a brand new one one can dream!

Chavez for President!

 

[KyleT]

I think the actual problem is physically bringing it over the border w/o the feds knowing about it.

just drive yours over and do what needs to be done and drive it back.

 

[Grench]

Go to the diesel tech forum here on mud and read the hundreds of posts about importing "newer" diesel LC's, it's nigh unto impossible.

Haven't they been doing this though with the intent of licensing the vehicle for use on US roads?

Buy 3 of them. Bring them in on the back of a truck and call them track only vehicles.

Line them up in a row. Move the engines one rig to the right and the bodies one rig to the left so the VINs are all mashed.

Buy 3 rollover salvage title trucks. Pull the spedo/odometer cluster.

Put the spedo/odometers into the 3 new trucks with the mismatched frame, body & engine VINs.

You now have three restored salvage vehicles that would, in this theory, be registerable under the original VIN? Maybe? Would anyone know?

So, why won't this work? Would it be within the letter of if not the intent of the law?

I'm not saying I'd do this, just wondering if it would be legal. I can't afford to buy 6 trucks or the time to do it. Just an exercise in theory.

 

[firetruck41]

Haven't they been doing this though with the intent of licensing the vehicle for use on US roads?

Buy 3 of them. Bring them in on the back of a truck and call them track only vehicles.

Line them up in a row. Move the engines one rig to the right and the bodies one rig to the left so the VINs are all mashed.

Buy 3 rollover salvage title trucks. Pull the spedo/odometer cluster.

Put the spedo/odometers into the 3 new trucks with the mismatched frame, body & engine VINs.

You now have three restored salvage vehicles that would, in this theory, be registerable under the original VIN? Maybe? Would anyone know?

So, why won't this work? Would it be within the letter of if not the intent of the law?

I'm not saying I'd do this, just wondering if it would be legal. I can't afford to buy 6 trucks or the time to do it. Just an exercise in theory.

You didn't read many of those threads did you?

 

[Grench]

Um, several of them....

You didn't read many of those threads did you?

The most definitive one I could find was 70seriesaddict's post:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=10164

My idea about importing them as 'offroad use only' vehicles would potentially place them in an exception classification. See the end of 70seriesaddict's post. Potentially 'farm service' may work as well.

Parting out the new trucks would end their service life. Would you need to show someone that the vehicle had been dissasembled and removed from offroad service?

The registered vehicle in this case is representedy by the odometer and the whole would be registered as a rebuilt salvage vehicle.

So, would this be legal? (Still an exercise in theory as I don't have the resources to do it.)

 

[Tapage]

Chavez for President!

check this out . !

http://www.cruiserheads.org

http://www.funrace4x4.com/

Actually you can buy a new FZJ-80 2006 for about 30k USD .. brand new !

 

[Grench]

Actually you can buy a new FZJ-80 2006 for about 30k USD .. brand new !

Hmm... And what would that be worth in the US?

100 series MSRP is $56,000 base.

Toyota could charge the same for an 80, and I'm betting they'd sell more 80s than 100s.

Its so annoying how badly we get stuck here in the US.

 

[Tapage]

Hmm... And what would that be worth in the US?

100 series MSRP is $56,000 base.

Toyota could charge the same for an 80, and I'm betting they'd sell more 80s than 100s.

Its so annoying how badly we get stuck here in the US.

I thought is posible .. after all are 1FZ-FE engines ..

 

[Grench]

Envy...

I thought is posible .. after all are 1FZ-FE engines ..

Nope. The last year that 80 series were sold in the US was 1997.

Thats why we drool over the 2006 80 series you can buy in Panama.

Import restrictions make it pretty much impossible for us to own one.

Toyota knows that the US market is willing and able to pay more so... In 1997 the price of a new 80 in the US was about $45,000. In today's dollars around $75,000.

So, I am (we are) envious that you get to have a new 80 series and pay half as much (or less) than we would have been charged.

 

[Exiled]

Nope. The last year that 80 series were sold in the US was 1997.

Thats why we drool over the 2006 80 series you can buy in Panama.

Import restrictions make it pretty much impossible for us to own one.

Toyota knows that the US market is willing and able to pay more so... In 1997 the price of a new 80 in the US was about $45,000. In today's dollars around $75,000.

So, I am (we are) envious that you get to have a new 80 series and pay half as much (or less) than we would have been charged.

2006 80 Series is only available in Venezuela as part of a plan where Toyota maintained the tooling for the 80 series there and completely skipped the 100 series. They are all powered by the 1FZ-FE and are not available with any other engine. Panama, like the rest of the world, switched in '98 to the 100 Series and it's available in several different configurations, diesel and gas.

 

[TLC42TD]

And let's not forget the Fuqi...

http://kingstar2004.en.alibaba.com/product/50100784/50450132/2WD_4WD_SUV_Gasoline_or_Diesel_/Fuqi_4WD_Gasoline__Diesel_SUV.html?chkProductIds=50450132&ad84kt=y

 

[stevek]

And let's not forget the Fuqi...

Damn...did you see the engine with that? Wonder how gutless it is...