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I was able to install my new BudBuilt Sliders last weekend.

I have spoken to Bud a few times prior to ordering my sliders and, like all who have contacted him, was impressed by his knowledge and genuine likeability. He’s open and friendly and must clearly love what he does. When I placed my order in early August, I never anticipated the sliders being delivered to my door by Bud’s son, Chip. But as luck would have it – I happen to live reasonably close to Bud’s shop and Chip was planning to attend a function that was within 2 miles of my house. Bud also asked if my LC could be used as a model for another set of sliders he had custom fabricated for another client. Naturally I obliged. Free delivery, got to meet Chip and my rig will be a world-famous model! (I hear the plus-size gals are getting a lot more press lately!) :D

First impressions:
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Holy cow - these are beefy! :eek: I mean beefy with an extra side of beef to go with that beef. And they’re HUGE! After a few quick measurements, I was beginning to get worried they might actually stick out too far…

  1. Chip pointed out a few imperfections in the powder-coating and even said that he would return them and have them redone if I wasn’t happy with them. I’ll admit I was initially tempted, but I couldn’t wait any longer and I figured I’m only going to make them more imperfect on the trails anyway. It was refreshing for him to point these things out instead of leaving me to find them.

  2. There are additional grinding marks and a wavy top plate that I would have rather not been there, but understanding the fact that Bud’s shop is not a mass-production facility & that they have moved locations – I’d still keep them as I plan to use them. I had to remind myself that these products are about protection and functionality, not mall-cruising pretty designs…one could argue that these concepts don’t have to be mutually exclusive – but when I go into that rock-garden part of a really tight trail – I won’t be thinking about the mall! (well, maybe the food-court…) I will be thinking about how glad I am to have these sliders on my rig!

  3. No physical installation instructions. I see this as a temporary issue - as I'm sure some good instructions will be forthcoming. Chip did forward me some written notes in an email with some photos – and @Taco2Cruiser did as well. These were invaluable as there are some unique looking lollipop nuts and several different length bolts etc… These were clearly purposely made to fit in exact locations – so knowing where those locations were, was imperative…there were also some tips and tricks required. Chip offered to walk me through any areas I needed help with and he even offered to come by again on Sunday! Chip answered his phone 3 times for me Saturday and clarified a few questions. Chip is his father’s son – as his patience, politeness and knowledge are unwavering.

Installation:

  1. I essentially installed these on my own with minor assistance by my son….so it took me 9 hours total. I used a jack and stands to get, and hold them in place….you must have these at your disposal if attempting solo.

  2. Without instructions, there was a fair amount of time spent trying to figure out the right order of things. Having done it once I’m sure I could do the next set in half the time (maybe)…..I’m typing up a rough set of instructions that I’ll share with Bud if he is interested in them.

  3. I did run to the hardware store for 2 longer 5/8” bolts for the more difficult lollipop nuts (fastener #2) on both sides as well as some short 12mm long M8-1.25 bolts for the parking brake cable brackets – as getting the longer, provided fasteners through the threaded part of the slider and into the threaded hole on the frame was not possible for me.


Final Thoughts:

  1. The company. Dealing with people like Bud and his family make you feel good. There is a special personal touch you get from dealing with a local business that engineers and manufactures everything domestically….I like this and want to support it.

  2. Fit/Size – the fit is very nice. I think its tucked up as well as it could be. Having gotten used to the clean look of no sliders or steps for a while, these sliders do seem to stick out quite a bit – and some could argue they could actually introduce contact with rocks whereas you might have avoided contact with a slimmer design. That being said – with larger obstacles and trees abound in my area, if you draw a line from the side of the body down, these don’t stick out that far and I’m certain the width was deliberately designed for protection against large and small items. After living with them for a few days – I’m used to the width.

  3. I can’t wait to get out and go wheelin’! :bounce:

Thanks Bud and Chip (and Rob @Taco2Cruiser for being involved in product development and testing)!
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I’m taking my LC to my mechanic next Friday (Nov 10) for him to install my BudBuilt sliders. I would appreciate it if you could get me any installation notes you took so that I could give them to my mechanic.
 
I’m taking my LC to my mechanic next Friday (Nov 10) for him to install my BudBuilt sliders. I would appreciate it if you could get me any installation notes you took so that I could give them to my mechanic.
You bet. Shoot me your email address in a PM and I'll be happy to send over some notes (as soon as I finish typing them up!) :)
 
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I was able to install my new BudBuilt Sliders last weekend.

I have spoken to Bud a few times prior to ordering my sliders and, like all who have contacted him, was impressed by his knowledge and genuine likeability. He’s open and friendly and must clearly love what he does. When I placed my order in early August, I never anticipated the sliders being delivered to my door by Bud’s son, Chip. But as luck would have it – I happen to live reasonably close to Bud’s shop and Chip was planning to attend a function that was within 2 miles of my house. Bud also asked if my LC could be used as a model for another set of sliders he had custom fabricated for another client. Naturally I obliged. Free delivery, got to meet Chip and my rig will be a world-famous model! (I hear the plus-size gals are getting a lot more press lately!) :D

First impressions:
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Holy cow - these are beefy! :eek: I mean beefy with an extra side of beef to go with that beef. And they’re HUGE! After a few quick measurements, I was beginning to get worried they might actually stick out too far…

  1. Chip pointed out a few imperfections in the powder-coating and even said that he would return them and have them redone if I wasn’t happy with them. I’ll admit I was initially tempted, but I couldn’t wait any longer and I figured I’m only going to make them more imperfect on the trails anyway. It was refreshing for him to point these things out instead of leaving me to find them.

  2. There are additional grinding marks and a wavy top plate that I would have rather not been there, but understanding the fact that Bud’s shop is not a mass-production facility & that they have moved locations – I’d still keep them as I plan to use them. I had to remind myself that these products are about protection and functionality, not mall-cruising pretty designs…one could argue that these concepts don’t have to be mutually exclusive – but when I go into that rock-garden part of a really tight trail – I won’t be thinking about the mall! (well, maybe the food-court…) I will be thinking about how glad I am to have these sliders on my rig!

  3. No physical installation instructions. I see this as a temporary issue - as I'm sure some good instructions will be forthcoming. Chip did forward me some written notes in an email with some photos – and @Taco2Cruiser did as well. These were invaluable as there are some unique looking lollipop nuts and several different length bolts etc… These were clearly purposely made to fit in exact locations – so knowing where those locations were, was imperative…there were also some tips and tricks required. Chip offered to walk me through any areas I needed help with and he even offered to come by again on Sunday! Chip answered his phone 3 times for me Saturday and clarified a few questions. Chip is his father’s son – as his patience, politeness and knowledge are unwavering.

Installation:

  1. I essentially installed these on my own with minor assistance by my son….so it took me 9 hours total. I used a jack and stands to get, and hold them in place….you must have these at your disposal if attempting solo.

  2. Without instructions, there was a fair amount of time spent trying to figure out the right order of things. Having done it once I’m sure I could do the next set in half the time (maybe)…..I’m typing up a rough set of instructions that I’ll share with Bud if he is interested in them.

  3. I did run to the hardware store for 2 longer 5/8” bolts for the more difficult lollipop nuts (fastener #2) on both sides as well as some short 12mm long M8-1.25 bolts for the parking brake cable brackets – as getting the longer, provided fasteners through the threaded part of the slider and into the threaded hole on the frame was not possible for me.

Final Thoughts:

  1. The company. Dealing with people like Bud and his family make you feel good. There is a special personal touch you get from dealing with a local business that engineers and manufactures everything domestically….I like this and want to support it.

  2. Fit/Size – the fit is very nice. I think its tucked up as well as it could be. Having gotten used to the clean look of no sliders or steps for a while, these sliders do seem to stick out quite a bit – and some could argue they could actually introduce contact with rocks whereas you might have avoided contact with a slimmer design. That being said – with larger obstacles and trees abound in my area, if you draw a line from the side of the body down, these don’t stick out that far and I’m certain the width was deliberately designed for protection against large and small items. After living with them for a few days – I’m used to the width.

  3. I can’t wait to get out and go wheelin’! :bounce:

Thanks Bud and Chip (and Rob @Taco2Cruiser for being involved in product development and testing)!
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Looking good. I have the same configuration as yours for my 16. I am waiting for mine to come in hopefully next week. Thanks for sharing your experience putting them on.

Did you have to do anything special like drilling or fabrication to get them bolted on? And how long did it take you?
 
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Looking good. I have the same configuration as yours for my 16. I am waiting for mine to come in hopefully next week. Thanks for sharing your experience putting them on.

Did you have to do anything special like drilling or fabrication to get them bolted on? And how long did it take you?
No drilling or fabrication required at all. I did run a tap through the captive nuts in the frame just to clean them up a bit- but this may not be required on your LC. In my notes above I also mentioned that I ran to the hardware store for some alternative length fasteners to make my installation a tiny bit easier. Fell free to reach out to me for questions during your install!
 
My Bud Built sliders should be arriving any day now and I may be installing by myself. If you could fwd your notes on to me they would be greatly appreciated.

Its 25 deg f right now with snow and ice on the roads and more on the way tonight so I will wait till the underside is free of slush and ice before the install.
 
So am I see it correctly? There is no bottom to the mounting flange? The only joint to the frame is on the side facing out?
 
No drilling or fabrication required at all. I did run a tap through the captive nuts in the frame just to clean them up a bit- but this may not be required on your LC. In my notes above I also mentioned that I ran to the hardware store for some alternative length fasteners to make my installation a tiny bit easier. Fell free to reach out to me for questions during your install!
thanks. I just sent you a PM with my email address. I would greatly appreciate if you could send me your notes.
 
Looks really nice. Hopefully the product will be more “final” soon as they’re competing directly with shops like Slee which have dialed in fit and finish and the details perfectly. More competition in the marketplace, especially small business, is welcome, but the product and ease of use/installation has got to be top notch in the 200 world.
 
So am I see it correctly? There is no bottom to the mounting flange? The only joint to the frame is on the side facing out?
Thats right. It's a 3/8" one piece plate with 3/8" massive plates on the inside of the frame rails with a ton of 5/8 grade 8 bolts. It minimizes deflection immensely, and with 6 legs that are triangulated with 4 additional gussets on non triangulated legs, its quite stout. In fact, I can confidently say it is the strongest slider and the best integrated into the frame slider on the market. Other offering use 3-4 flat orientated legs with separated frame plates, not to mention, those the offering legs don't even get close to how far back BudBuilt sliders go.

Looks really nice. Hopefully the product will be more “final” soon as they’re competing directly with shops like Slee which have dialed in fit and finish and the details perfectly. More competition in the marketplace, especially small business, is welcome, but the product and ease of use/installation has got to be top notch in the 200 world.
Absolutely. But even with my Slee sliders, the e-brake cable was mashed too hard into a rear gusset for my liking. That and I had too much deflection into my rocker panel cover for the rocky terrain I like to wheel in. I wasn't going to buy new slider though as my Slee sliders still did their job, and protected my body, probably for a very long time. But while I was getting skids, Bud walked around the corner with the first one of these... and I was impressed. Sold my old sliders and never looked back. What I like about Bud though, is he wants to know issues. So @NLScooby, I'v already told Bud about the hardware you bought, and he stopped shipping what slider were left to correct any issues. I think he will be giving you a call. Anyway, instruction do need to happen, and they are coming. Are Bud sliders for everyone, no, and that's okay, like you said, more offering are what matters, and let people have choices is what the 200 community needs.

It's pretty awesome to see all the stuff rolling. As some of you guys know, Bud has been very sick for months. Well about 3 weeks ago he went to a functional health specialist and found fluid in his lungs. Just cutting some foods out of his diet has brought him back from the dead, and even started running again... and look at everything coming out again. He even called me today to talk about stating back up the high clearance rear bumper. I'm super excited and looks like beginning of the year my 200 is gaining some departure angle!
 
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Thats right. It's a 3/8" one piece plate with 3/8" massive plates on the inside of the frame rails with a ton of 5/8 grade 8 bolts. It minimizes deflection immensely, and with 6 legs that are triangulated with 4 additional gussets on non triangulated legs, its quite stout. In fact, I can confidently say it is the strongest slider and the best integrated into the frame slider on the market. Other offering use 3-4 flat orientated legs with separated frame plates, not to mention, those the offering legs don't even get close to how far back BudBuilt sliders go.


Absolutely. But even with my Slee sliders, the e brake cable was mashed too hard into a rear gusset for my liking. That I had too much deflection into my rocker panel cover for the rocky terrain I like to wheel in. I wasn't going to buy new slider though as my Slee sliders still did their job, and protected my body, probably for a very long time. But while I was getting skids, Bud walked around the corner with the first one of these... and I was impressed. Sold my old sliders and never looked back. What I like about Bud though, is he wants to know issues. So @NLScooby, I'v already told Bud about the hardware you bought, and he stopped shipping what slider were left to correct any issues. I think he will be giving you a call.

It's pretty awesome to see all the stuff rolling. As some of you guys know, Bud has been very sick for months. Well about 3 weeks ago he went to a functional health specialist and found fluid in his lungs. Just cutting some foods out of his diet has brought him back from the dead, and even started running again... and look at everything coming out again. He even called me today to talk about stating back up the high clearance rear bumper. I'm super excited and looks like beginning of the year my 200 is gaining some departure angle!
Thanks for chiming in on this. My best wishes to Bud and I hope he feels better. The few times I spoke to him over the phone he was really knowledgeable and knows his stuff. I can’t wait to get my sliders and stage 4 skids I ordered. Jackie tells me its shipping next week I think so keeping fingers crossed.
 
Thanks for chiming in on this. My best wishes to Bud and I hope he feels better. The few times I spoke to him over the phone he was really knowledgeable and knows his stuff. I can’t wait to get my sliders and stage 4 skids I ordered. Jackie tells me its shipping next week I think so keeping fingers crossed.
I think he's finally out of it, lets hope though. But still, a business needs to provide, and there was too much delay on these. But looks like things are rolling out now. It's pretty cool though, you guys are helping more than you know. I had to take a little bit of a break from the new website as I was in the hospital for a bit (nothing wrong, good to go). Anyway, I was thinking about how Bud wasn't doing so good. But hearing from him today, invigorated me, and then seeing all this stuff going out, wow. All the feedback you guys provide is being poured into this company, not just 200 parts. From ideas, to pictures, to product developments, its pretty exciting. I wish I was actually apart of the business, but I'll have fun learning while I'm close. Anyway, it's a modern day underdog story, BudBuilt has been around for 18 years, but they failed to adapt with the social media and new marketing trends of today, but I love an underdog, and the products never stopped being absurdly strong. It's going to be a crazy ride, BudBuilt will either fade into the darkness or climb out of the ashes and dominate again. For everyone, keep the criticisms coming, keep the product wants coming, its the only way to get better, that shop it about delivering real products for real users. If it doesn't work, say it, Bud doesn't want fanboys, he wants to be the best. More products are coming, but he wants a stock build up before releasing so that things can just go out. Man... I need to go wheeling now.
 
Minor fender bender with the wife’s LC . Squished running board = ordering Bud Built step sliders!
 
He even called me today to talk about stating back up the high clearance rear bumper. I'm super excited and looks like beginning of the year my 200 is gaining some departure angle!

I am very interested in hearing about this! I still debate about armoring up my vehicle, the only thing slowing me down is the suspension upgrade.
 
Minor fender bender with the wife’s LC . Squished running board = ordering Bud Built step sliders!
These will not squish!
 
Just to add to this thread, I got my Bud steps on. I took a different approach compared to @Taco2Cruiser and @NLScooby with their angled sliders. For my needs, I’d rather have a step for little ones and my parents and I don’t plan to need the extra clearance for rock climbing. Thank you Rob for the instructions as the lollipops really had me scratching my head. :rofl:

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@Obi Wong Kenobi -

Those wheels look amazing on your *incredibly new-looking* rig!

I love the dark plates CA finally started offering again! :)
 
love a freshly washed black vehicle....so sharp looking
 

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