my birfield odyssey --

[DRTDuck]

Nice job with the documentation. Looks like an excellent job.

Did I miss something, are those t-shirts now for sale?

 

[Junk]

A tip of the hat to Rick and Dan.
Eric, I hope you realize how blessed you are to know guys like them. Very few people would go to those lengths to extend a helping hand to a virtual friend.

-B-

Gee, what? No mention of Koffer who did his other truck for him awhile back.

 

[Junk]

 

[Beowulf]

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to exclude Koffer; that's the first that I knew that someone else did the '94.

-B-

 

[pismojim]

Eric,

GREAT write-up and pics!

Thanks for showing the detail comparsion of new .vs. worn splines.

I'm also amazed at how much grease ended up in the diff. I've seen a little of the green froth but that was ugly.

The new birfield looks longer than the original? Also, I vaguely remember something about a potential drive plate issue with the new birfs? Guess I should search...

 

[landtank]

pismojim,
The newer style birf is longer than the older one and requires a different flange because of it. Because of availability and the fact that we needed both the birf and flange, we went with the newer style of both which physically fits in the older axle.

Junk,
Koffer looks to be a much better virtual freind than me. Eric seems to be standing by looking on at that rebuild. No way that was happening up here. I spun the wrenches and he cleaned the parts. I'm more than willing to help out others but they assume the role of slave labor .

 

[erics_bruisers]

That's a nice pic -- after my requests for them a year and a half ago --

thanks --

-- many kudos were given to Todd a year and a half ago -- I was refering to this weekend -- check the archives --

-- eric

 

[Koffer]

Man thats one ugly dude sitting down on the job
The best part of that job was Erics was the 1st 80 that I had done (done 40s 55s 60s and a 70 )

I hope I did it right since I have to do mine

Junks truck "The " will be "hanging" there on that same lift on Wednsday ;p

 

[erics_bruisers]

you did a great, great job, todd -- it was like speed-birfs with you -- you definitely knew what you were doing --

the only thing Rick and I did differently was dis-assemble the birf and re-pack it -- and with that, we ran in to some problems, like our breaking the axle-spline snap-ring --

e

 

[Junk]

That's a nice pic -- after my requests for them a year and a half ago --

and a year ago they were emailed to you. and if you need them resent again, all you ever had (or have) to do is ask.

Not giving you crap about having guys do the work for you, after all, I know you were busy cleaning doggie splatter out of the back of you truck at Koffers etc.

Eric, there is nothing wrong with being nervous about doing these projects on your own. That's why the first time you needed them done, I suggested you head down to Koffers (was first OB's then changed to Koffer's). I'm just saying that to really learn, it's going to help if you dive in and do more of the wrenching with perhaps someone like these guys serving as your navigator. Hey to each his own though.

One thing you may agree with is that this forum has a lot of great folks in it that do their best to help each other when help is needed. Not everyone is going to be the best of friends, but most would go out of their way to help others that need it.

 

[tucker74]

Damn Eric - I don't know how you conned two different members into doing your birf jobs...but kudos to you. The second time looks like you really needed the experience ... that third is freaking slimy. I agree with landtank though - I had no problems helping out my buddy when he was doing all the slave labor...it's getting in that parts tank and scrubbing that sucks! I never mind spinning a wrench and drinking beer!

I bet that 80 drives better now....



Tucker

 

[erics_bruisers]

I agree, Mike -- my spindle is coming in today, so i will do that rip-down and re-build myself, including inner and outer oil seals, gaskets and stuff --

-- with Rick, though, things just seemed to sink in a LOT more the second time -- prob. since it all wasn't so new to me the second time --

-- also, Rick knows a lot of old-school stuff that I was happy to learn -- like using marvel mystery oil on the dry birfs (and NOT brake cleaner) and to always inspect everything -- lest we replaced the birf with a bad spline -- his bearing pack methods, too, were good to learn -- I learned, learned, learned --

-- so much, in fact, that I met another IH8MUD guy at the counter of my dealer yesterday -- TLCgrappler -- he said he's overdue for a birf job and I told him I would love to do it with him -- he's never done it before -- I now feel confident to help him --

-- and that's what it's all about --

e

 

[erics_bruisers]

how in the heck did that much grease get into the diff?!?

did someone pump grease into the diff? Or is this the result of years of refilling the birf cavity?

Amazing!!!

great pics and congrats on the job well done!

Thanks for this, Chris!

I have hand-pumped many a cartridge in the birf-fill cavity -- thinking a wet birf was better than a dry one (which it is), but also not knowing it would go to this extent --

e

 

[erics_bruisers]

God, I love my '94 --

 

[erics_bruisers]

Nice job with the documentation. Looks like an excellent job.

Did I miss something, are those t-shirts now for sale?

I got a couple made up as gifts, but that's all --

-- eric

 

[landtank]

I got a couple made up as gifts, but that's all --

-- eric

How about a couple with the back that reads

"I survived Eric axle"

 

[erics_bruisers]

or --

"i survived Eric's nightmare axles" --

 

[sleeoffroad]

pismojim,
The newer style birf is longer than the older one and requires a different flange because of it. Because of availability and the fact that we needed both the birf and flange, we went with the newer style of both which physically fits in the older axle.

.

Might be wrong, but I don't think you can buy the shorter one from Toyota anymore. When you look, they will tell you that you need the driveflange as well.

 

[Junk]

I agree, Mike -- my spindle is coming in today, so i will do that rip-down and re-build myself, including inner and outer oil seals, gaskets and stuff --

...

-- so much, in fact, that I met another IH8MUD guy at the counter of my dealer yesterday -- TLCgrappler -- he said he's overdue for a birf job and I told him I would love to do it with him -- he's never done it before -- I now feel confident to help him --

-- and that's what it's all about --

Kudos to you.

In my view, not that my view matters much, there is no better way to thank someone, who has shown you how to do something, than to help and show someone else. Good job.

FWIW, those pics from Ricks, along with a write up of what steps ya'll took in detail would go a long way to helping others if written up as a faq in servicing and inspecting. Would be a lot of work though.

 

[Brentbba]

Eric, there is nothing wrong with being nervous about doing these projects on your own. That's why the first time you needed them done, I suggested you head down to Koffers (was first OB's then changed to Koffer's). I'm just saying that to really learn, it's going to help if you dive in and do more of the wrenching with perhaps someone like these guys serving as your navigator. Hey to each his own though.

One thing you may agree with is that this forum has a lot of great folks in it that do their best to help each other when help is needed. Not everyone is going to be the best of friends, but most would go out of their way to help others that need it.

Well said Junk!

Anyone in SoCal willing to be a teacher to a 1/2 on this job? My company is shuting it's doors this Friday and I find myself with time on my hands outside of the second week in August for Boy Scout summer camp fun.