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How does torque power compare for a Milwaukee m12 vs a 3/8" Balkamp air ratchet?
Milwaukee m12 vs Air Ratchet
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gray rider
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Found my answer with more researching:
Milwaukee 12: 14-15 ft-lbs
Air ratchet: 60 ft-lbs
Milwaukee 12: 14-15 ft-lbs
Air ratchet: 60 ft-lbs
That number seems low. The Milwaukee website says 41.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2452-20
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2452-20
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you better compare 18V or more with air tools ..
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Yeah, ok. Either way the air wins for oomph....i guess.
I agree that air wins for raw power, although some of the 18v versions are in the 300-400 ft lbs range. OTOH the 18v impact I have (the little one for driving screws) is super handy around the garage for working on cars. It's rated at 125 ft lbs, and I use it almost exclusively now because it's so much more convenient than getting out the air powered impact. All the little stuff zips off quick and I use a regular old ratchet for the larger bolts. The only time I get the air impact out now is to rotate tires.
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I have a Makita 18V LXT impact driver, I use the heck out of that thing. Very handy for pulling stuff apart. The LED light on it is also really handy.
I also have an air ratchet, I can't remember the last time I used it.
I also have an air ratchet, I can't remember the last time I used it.
I have Dewalt 18v tools. Mostly because I bought a set years ago when they were really the only game in town that were worth owning. Now there are lots of pretty good options.
I would stay away from ryobi. I had a set of their stuff and the tools were below average and batteries were junk. Maybe the new stuff is better? It's been 10 years.
If I didn't already own half a dozen Dewalt 18v tools and I were starting over, I can't really say what I'd go for. I would skip the kits that have a circular saw as they aren't worth much IMO. I'd just get a drill and impact set and then add bare tools as you need them.
I would stay away from ryobi. I had a set of their stuff and the tools were below average and batteries were junk. Maybe the new stuff is better? It's been 10 years.
If I didn't already own half a dozen Dewalt 18v tools and I were starting over, I can't really say what I'd go for. I would skip the kits that have a circular saw as they aren't worth much IMO. I'd just get a drill and impact set and then add bare tools as you need them.
Thread hijack, here we go...
I've tried pretty much them all, and there's no way I'd ever give up my Makitas. The impact driver is awesome, they are the only one that did the light correctly. I have 2 drills, a right angle drill, a light, circular saw, metal cutting circular saw, and I just got the jobsite radio a couple of weeks ago.
I use my circular saw all the time. Love it.
I've tried pretty much them all, and there's no way I'd ever give up my Makitas. The impact driver is awesome, they are the only one that did the light correctly. I have 2 drills, a right angle drill, a light, circular saw, metal cutting circular saw, and I just got the jobsite radio a couple of weeks ago.
I use my circular saw all the time. Love it.
I would have to consider Makita if I were buying new. They are smaller and lighter than the comparable Dewalt that I have, which makes them a lot nicer to carry around climbing on a building.
Makita's first 18v lithium ion batteries were bad. There's a class action lawsuit in some stage right now over them. From what I just read on the interwebs they didn't have proper balancing circuitry in certain battery models and the first set of parallel cells would fail right away. I think they've sorted out the problem, but I really don't know much about it.
Makita's first 18v lithium ion batteries were bad. There's a class action lawsuit in some stage right now over them. From what I just read on the interwebs they didn't have proper balancing circuitry in certain battery models and the first set of parallel cells would fail right away. I think they've sorted out the problem, but I really don't know much about it.
Huh. I bought my initial 18V LXT set with the driver and drill way back in 2006. I think I got 5 years out of those batteries, and some of that was heavy use. I try to buy on average one new battery every year, so I'm not ever left with dead ones, I have 4 batteries now. I picked up another drill, charger, and case the other day on craigslist for $40. It originally had those smaller 1.5AH batteries, and the guy smoked both batteries one day when building a deck, he overheated and deep discharged them, both of which will ruin these batteries. I'm really careful with them, don't let them get hot or even sit out in the sun, and I don't let them sit outside in my truck during the winter.
Very happy, one of the best tool investments I've ever made. The next addition will probably be the 1/2" impact wrench (BTW450), I'm tired of dragging a hose around.
Very happy, one of the best tool investments I've ever made. The next addition will probably be the 1/2" impact wrench (BTW450), I'm tired of dragging a hose around.
Milwaukee recently released an updated m12 3/8impact brushless from their fuel line up. and from the reviews ive been reading theyre kicking the snap on and bigger mechanics tools cordless impact ass, and at less than half the price! theyre currently 190-200 on either ebay or you can order from homedepot.com (apparently they dont carry good tools in their stores). I currently have a bosch 12v 1/4hex impact and love it for little stuff and that has about half the torque the Milwaukee 3/8 is supposed to have. if i could go back and buy my set again id be buying a Milwaukee set, their drill chucks are much nicer and offer many more tools in their m12 lineup
I have a milwaukee M12 3/8 ratchet and it is the best tool buy I've ever made.
I can break the bolt loose by turning the ratched as a whole, then take off the bolt in a matter of seconds. Then I can put the bolt back on with percise control to just snug it up. Then I either tighten it by hand our use a torque wrench..
I never use my air tools anymore.
I can break the bolt loose by turning the ratched as a whole, then take off the bolt in a matter of seconds. Then I can put the bolt back on with percise control to just snug it up. Then I either tighten it by hand our use a torque wrench..
I never use my air tools anymore.
Agree with this guy. The Milwaukee stuff costs more but is unparalleled in quality and torque. What seems is odd is that they are all VERY similar looking, from the tool itself to the batteries. My old man has the Makita 18v lithium line and some Dewalt, I have the Milwaukee M12 and the M12 FUEL Line (brushless motors) rival the torque of the 18v Makita and Dewalt! I was blown away by this. I could only imagine the FUEL line in M18 by Milwaukee. Maybe I'll splurge one of these days...
I have a couple air ratchets that I never use anymore. Whenever I did use them they seemed so weak that you had to break loose or tighten the bolt or nut by hand anyways and the noisy air ratchet would slowly turn the bolt or nut after. I love my cordless tools, and my air impacts for working on stuff.
I think there is a difference you're missing here. To use an impact is for torque force of breaking a fitting free. An air ratchet is not an impact tool, never meant to be used as one. I use a 1/4" air ratchet on all my smaller bolts, but it has a very low torque and I know I won't break off or strip 8mm or 10 mm bolts. I use a 3/8" ratchet for turning nuts and bolts. It would be silly to try to break free a
17mm caliper bolt with a ratchet, that's what an appropriate impact is for. I wouldn't use that same impact for tightening that same caliper bolt, that is what a ratchet and torque wrench is for.
Long story short, apples and oranges when in use. Also, I have used ratchets in areas that the concept of trying to fit a drill style tool is never going to work.
I fully understand the difference. I have just found that air ratchets are so slow and weak that I find it easier to just use an old fashion ratchet instead of the air ratchet. It takes about the same amount of time and I don't have to deal with the air hose. Or I'll use an impact to rum a bolt or nut on and torque appropriately with the correct tool.
I picked up one of the Milwaukee M12 3/8" cordless ratchets; it's handy for quickly removing smallish fasteners however the motor has a self protection mode and will shut itself off if you try to exceed the motor's torque ability. I use a cordless Ingersoll Rand impact wrench for the bigger stuff when I can reach them with it. Ingersoll Rand has a newer line of cordless ratchets, they're fairly large/long but have a higher torque rating than the Milwaukee M12. FWIW.
Hi Guys
Maybe you all can help me here
Ive got a Milwaukee heavy duty drill and these are the number on the drill
code 4000 4014 61 09600c2007
n= 0-400/1300min
PDD12x
battery is
12v 2.0 Ah 24Wh system PBS 3000
nicd 4932 3605 20
BXS 12
my batteries 2 of have gone flat and just wondering if any of you could find out a price for replacement batteries please
email me if you like to possum.58@hotmail.com
Kind Regards Peter
Maybe you all can help me here
Ive got a Milwaukee heavy duty drill and these are the number on the drill
code 4000 4014 61 09600c2007
n= 0-400/1300min
PDD12x
battery is
12v 2.0 Ah 24Wh system PBS 3000
nicd 4932 3605 20
BXS 12
my batteries 2 of have gone flat and just wondering if any of you could find out a price for replacement batteries please
email me if you like to possum.58@hotmail.com
Kind Regards Peter
