mileage expectations on 200 series LC

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My avg MPG confirms approx 14.x MPG. This is with minimal cargo, no mods (other than LRA), and the best tire of all - the michelin defender! Mostly hwy, some city. I'm amazed some are reporting awesome fuel economy. I have never seen north of 16 mpg personally.
Are they LT construction or passenger? And what pressure?
 
Filled up this past Friday morning at the Murphy next to Wal-Mart in Harrison, AR with ethanol-free 91.

Went north to Lees Summit, MO. then west to Junction City, KS for a total of 367 miles = , 19.8 mpg

Temps were low 90s, four lane hwy with light traffic and rolling hills.

I'd love to see that again. Normally 16.5 - 18 under similar conditions with 10% ethanol.
 
You can get as much as you want of a 200/201 series as long as you address all the known failure points in the 100-200K range (radiator on pre-18, water pump & starter or early builds, cam tower, and coolant valley) and keep the car in a dry climate away from road salt and other corrosive elements. These didn't turn out to be 100 series bulletproof from a powertrain perspective (and those still have their pains), but the UR series is a lower-maintenance engine and had to comply with stricter emissions standards. Still about as perfect of a compromise that I think the market will appreciate when the 300/310's get up their in age and mileage and the comparatively outrageous overengineering of the V35A (turbos, dual radiator, dual intake, etc) and complexity make these simple and easy to own in comparison.
 
300/310's get up their in age and mileage and the comparatively outrageous overengineering of the V35A (turbos, dual radiator, dual intake, etc) and complexity make these simple and easy to own in comparison.
is the over engineering of the 300/tundra motor why all of them are garbage and being replaced?

reminds me when i was a kid - other diplomats kids at school would say how german engineering was amazing - only to find out how low quality unreliable trash those cars were … ims, bearings, subframe tearing, plastic cooling systems

Is new toyota like a crappy bmw good for lease only?
 
is the over engineering of the 300/tundra motor why all of them are garbage and being replaced?
Too soon to say; the earliest 300's are only now turning three years old. We still haven't seen what the impacts of thousands of heat cycles, seasonal elements, and other external components has on all the new hardware in those V35A engines. Toyota had 15 years to develop that powertrain, so I trust that they did their homework with respect to QDR, but that only goes so far with how much more complexity found its way into the leap from the UR to the VA series engines compared to the leap from the UZ to the UR.
 
Too soon to say; the earliest 300's are only now turning three years old. We still haven't seen what the impacts of thousands of heat cycles, seasonal elements, and other external components has on all the new hardware in those V35A engines. Toyota had 15 years to develop that powertrain, so I trust that they did their homework with respect to QDR, but that only goes so far with how much more complexity found its way into the leap from the UR to the VA series engines compared to the leap from the UZ to the UR.
so 15 years of engineering led to replacement of all tundra and Lx motors ?
 
is the over engineering of the 300/tundra motor why all of them are garbage and being replaced?

reminds me when i was a kid - other diplomats kids at school would say how german engineering was amazing - only to find out how low quality unreliable trash those cars were … ims, bearings, subframe tearing, plastic cooling systems

Is new toyota like a crappy bmw good for lease only?
Let’s be real, “all of them” aren’t garbage. It is a more complex engine than the 5.7 and will have issues but the vast majority of them are doing fine, and getting great power and mileage.

As an aside I bet a few people that had a valve spring failure on their 3UR with Toyota’s refusal to stand behind it might be willing to take their chances with the 3.5
 
I would think maybe even longer. The first UR came out in 2006 in the LS460s and the Tundras. Technically the first VA series's motors came in the LS500 in 2017 but the V35A for the truck application didn't come out until 2021.
gotcha! thanks for the info

my 05 LS430 is amazing

the ls460 had lots of problems
 
Let’s be real, “all of them” aren’t garbage. It is a more complex engine than the 5.7 and will have issues but the vast majority of them are doing fine, and getting great power and mileage.

As an aside I bet a few people that had a valve spring failure on their 3UR with Toyota’s refusal to stand behind it might be willing to take their chances with the 3.5
but for someone like toyota to change all the engines in the tundra - where they have had since 2007 to engineer - isn’t rhat saying something?

i am a toyota cum guzzling fanboi

this makes me sad
 
I said between 20-22 mpg at 75-85mph. I would just look at the trip computer for the calculations. With only my dog and me, the 13 LC got surprisingly good mileage on the highway, around town, not so great. I was really surprised at the difference between the 13 and the 18LC and could never figure out the reason. I used Amzoil 0-20 in both the 13 and 18 with 5k change intervals. Stock air filters, etc.
Still no way unless you are only calculating on a long downhill stretch coming out of the mountains. In my 80 I used to get 30-40 mpg when I would drive from my house on kingsbury summit to Genoa where you could make the trip on a skateboard.

I’m in Alaska and we do not have ethanol in any of our gas. Best I’ve ever seen is 16-17 mpg in my ‘13 and that is with >10 years ownership and >120k miles. Lifetime average I’m at 11.7mpg
 
Filled up this past Friday morning at the Murphy next to Wal-Mart in Harrison, AR with ethanol-free 91.

Went north to Lees Summit, MO. then west to Junction City, KS for a total of 367 miles = , 19.8 mpg

Temps were low 90s, four lane hwy with light traffic and rolling hills.

I'd love to see that again. Normally 16.5 - 18 under similar conditions with 10% ethanol.
I drove the same route a few months ago along with staying a few days at Silver Dollar City. Except for West Branson, I got similar mpg. On that trip going west into Denver I encountered very little headwind in KS which was a nice gift.

Northwest AR and southern MO are beautiful.
 
but for someone like toyota to change all the engines in the tundra - where they have had since 2007 to engineer - isn’t rhat saying something?
They are replacing ~100k engines for 824 documented failures. And it appears it’s not an engineering issue but a production one.
 
gotcha

damn american made
The problems are also occuring in V35a engines assembled in Japan. The issue is not due assembly in the US.
 
so bad motors in two countries …
I look at it differently -- the assembly process in both countries is the same, which is a good thing. Yes, that means if the process is bad, both factories are affected.
 
Are they LT construction or passenger? And what pressure?
LT. 33psi courtesy of @gaijin neurotically confirmed every 4-6 wks with tire pressure gauge along with the TPMS whenever I get the wild hair to check while driving.
 
LT. 33psi courtesy of @gaijin neurotically confirmed every 4-6 wks with tire pressure gauge along with the TPMS whenever I get the wild hair to check while driving.

Sorry, but I would never recommend a RCTIP of 33psi for any LT-Metric tire. Please check your statement and refer me to where you believe I made that recommendation.

TIA
 

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