Mechanic review of Sequoia Engine (1 Viewer)
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"But wait! There is more German-ness going on here..."
Awesome.
Awesome.i just put a deposit on a SR5 coming in may sometime (75k out the door!!!!) I will drive it when it gets here but more and more looking like a bad decision. Who would have thought a 2018-20 200 series would be both the reliable choice and the value proposition."But wait! There is more German-ness going on here..."
I bet they will sell a ton of these. I also bet they are reliable, especially compared to the competition.
when you say reliable there must be some accounting for complexity and points of failure in the equation. This vehicle has several layers of potential failure points more than a 100 or 200 series Land Cruiser. This is a purely Toyota USA endeavor and I am guessing (hoping) Toyota Japan doesn't want anything to do with this coming out of their factories.
but yes I agree they will likely sell everyone they make.
The 3.5L TT is the same engine family as in the Lexus LS500 and 300 platform. The hybrid is in the Lexus LS500h and the forthcoming LX750h. It has proven reliable.
I guess Japan is on board with it then. Still interesting they didn’t put this hybrid drivetrain in the 300 series but did put it in the tundra and sequoia which are on the same platform.
In either case reliability is still unproven, as all those cars listed are new and very limited production numbers.
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I think because LC/LX has FULL TIME 4wd. So the hybrid produces too much power for the Torsen to handle.
Thus Tundra and Sequoia have PART TIME 4wd.
I guess we’ll see when the LX750h comes out.
Notice they went to straw method for AT fluid level check at 15:45 in video? I assume LX 600, Tundra and everything else going forward will be this way.
Example of the straw method :-(
Example of the straw method :-(
I don't think we're going to see the lx750. I thought it would have been a sure thing. But what I have been told is that there is nothing currently in the design / preeproduction pipeline. And there is no trademark for LX 750 or 700. Supposedly the intent was to have that. It is the number one request of North America Lexus dealers. And it was planned 5 years ago. But when Toyota nixed the heavy duty platform and the larger V8 turbo options, they also decided not to make a Lexus version. And the grand Highlander sibling TX will fill the slot as Lexus 3 row people mover.
The all-wheel drive issue is something I think Toyota should have sorted out. There is no transfer case I know of on the market that is strong enough for the torque of the hybrid system. The internals of the Sequoia and Tundra transfer case are a size up from what Ford puts in the super duty. Toyota's conservative durability testing is that much different from the domestic brands. But that doesn't mean aisin couldn't have scaled up the transfer case from the lc300 to work.
Or they could have retuned the powertrain to limit torque at lower RPMs. And in low range where it would apply to maximum Force on the transfer case internals. I doubt any owner would know or care. I would bet that less than one out of 100 lx600 or Sequoia first owners will engage low range a single time. I think it was just a cost cutting measure. GM - who controls 80% of the market for full size SUVs - they don't even have low range in most of them anymore. Plus, we don't hear about transfer cases blowing apart and supercharged sequoias and Land Cruiser 200s.
What Toyota should be building, if they were paying attention to the world acting to me (haha), is a GA-L platform rear wheel bias three row SUV. Basically the new TX, but based on the underpinnings of the LS. That's what the luxury market wants. Buyers generally aren't taking these off road. And it could be every bit as capable as a new Land Rover Defender. Tossing locking differentials on both ends and air suspension. And the GA-L makes a pretty seamless transition to EV down the road.
The all-wheel drive issue is something I think Toyota should have sorted out. There is no transfer case I know of on the market that is strong enough for the torque of the hybrid system. The internals of the Sequoia and Tundra transfer case are a size up from what Ford puts in the super duty. Toyota's conservative durability testing is that much different from the domestic brands. But that doesn't mean aisin couldn't have scaled up the transfer case from the lc300 to work.
Or they could have retuned the powertrain to limit torque at lower RPMs. And in low range where it would apply to maximum Force on the transfer case internals. I doubt any owner would know or care. I would bet that less than one out of 100 lx600 or Sequoia first owners will engage low range a single time. I think it was just a cost cutting measure. GM - who controls 80% of the market for full size SUVs - they don't even have low range in most of them anymore. Plus, we don't hear about transfer cases blowing apart and supercharged sequoias and Land Cruiser 200s.
What Toyota should be building, if they were paying attention to the world acting to me (haha), is a GA-L platform rear wheel bias three row SUV. Basically the new TX, but based on the underpinnings of the LS. That's what the luxury market wants. Buyers generally aren't taking these off road. And it could be every bit as capable as a new Land Rover Defender. Tossing locking differentials on both ends and air suspension. And the GA-L makes a pretty seamless transition to EV down the road.
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Geez Louise
I wonder if most realize that AHC suspension which has been standard on the LX for so long is not available on the base and premium trim. This could be seen as a pro or con but one can no longer assume "all".
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I Definitely see the lack of AHC as a pro in the base model. If I were to order an LX600 it would be a base without AHC and with 18” wheels.I wonder if most realize that AHC suspension which has been standard on the LX for so long is not available on the base and premium trim. This could be seen as a pro or con but one can no longer assume "all".
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You know my “love” for AHC……..but due to the horrible approach and departure angles of all LX600 trim, you MUST get AHC if you plan on taking it off-road. You have no choice. If i ever make the jump to LX600, then yeah, i would get AHC, even if it is against every grain in my body!
You know my “love” for AHC……..but due to the horrible approach and departure angles of all LX600 trim, you MUST get AHC if you plan on taking it off-road. You have no choice. If i ever make the jump to LX600, then yeah, i would get AHC, even if it is against every grain in my body!
Couldn't people just lift it and put larger tires? That's what many do with the GX.
