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wow its been 2 years since i posted this and only driven this truck 14,000 miles
Massive corroisin due to inferior coolant
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thanx wrist i searched but couldn't find the thread where i seen muratic acid couldn't remember what it was called that's why they call it a forum you ask rather than search somebody eventually reads and boom you get a answer 
are you kidding me ?? it's a widely know fact ..
check the PH level of your coolant .. or simply do a googal search .. and see what it will do to metal .
8 YEARS is your problem !!!
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i can not believe none has ask . was the ground strap on the back of the head there, attached, and in good condition.
Vinegar = acetic acid. I'm no chemist, but you can't neutralize an acid with another acid.
I've also used Drano to clean out a gunked up radiator.
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So just like Ken said, im no chemist. But what I have known to be true coincides with what Ken is saying. That using one acid to "neutralize" another is not right.
But I think that vinegar, what we purchase for cooking and cleaning, has a lot of water in it, and possibly wristy what you found with your clothes was that the vinegar diluted the other acid and lowered the ph level to a point where it wasn't corrosive enough to the clothes to make any noticeable difference.
Another thing to consider is that I think there is a differentiation between ph level and acidity level. How that works and what the designations are I don't remember at all. Could be that I just remember a different chart to measure just the acids, and another specifically for the bases. (super hazy) But also perhaps there is a way to have low ph levels and still retain a high acidity?? mehidono
But if your talking about trying to effectively "neutralize" hydrochloric acid ideally you need a corresponding base. Sodium hydroxide or lye is what would probably be used in any commercial application, but in terms of what might be handy (or easy to use safely) I think a crap load of regular table salt (sodium chloride???) will suffice.
Ken pleeeease don't grade this paper with respect to spelling or grammar there is an ultraton of big words I haven't used since high school crammed in there.
Why I am still writing and submitting things in front of teachers is beyond me.... sheesh
But I think that vinegar, what we purchase for cooking and cleaning, has a lot of water in it, and possibly wristy what you found with your clothes was that the vinegar diluted the other acid and lowered the ph level to a point where it wasn't corrosive enough to the clothes to make any noticeable difference.
Another thing to consider is that I think there is a differentiation between ph level and acidity level. How that works and what the designations are I don't remember at all. Could be that I just remember a different chart to measure just the acids, and another specifically for the bases. (super hazy) But also perhaps there is a way to have low ph levels and still retain a high acidity?? mehidono
But if your talking about trying to effectively "neutralize" hydrochloric acid ideally you need a corresponding base. Sodium hydroxide or lye is what would probably be used in any commercial application, but in terms of what might be handy (or easy to use safely) I think a crap load of regular table salt (sodium chloride???) will suffice.
Ken pleeeease don't grade this paper with respect to spelling or grammar there is an ultraton of big words I haven't used since high school crammed in there.
Why I am still writing and submitting things in front of teachers is beyond me.... sheesh
Nate, no problem, man. These posts don't get graded or carry college credits.
But you are confused on how the pH scale works. It does specifically measure the strength of an acid (or a base as well). Do a few Google (or Bing) searches, there's some good reviews out there in simple terms. Like this one:
(stolen from pH Scale). The scale runs from 0 to 14. The LOWER the number, the stronger the acid. Pure clean distilled water should have a pH of 7, right in the middle. Note how hydrochloric acid will have a pH around 1, while vinegar is around 3. So, flushing H2SO4 with vinegar will reduce it's acidity, but not by much. A better thing to use the neutralize an acid is baking soda, it's not a stong base so the reaction will be mild. Do NOT use ammonia to neutralize strong acids, the reaction will be very violent and it may splash on you causing burns, and I believe it releases strong noxious chlorine gas.
You can buy pH test srips at most pharmacies, but a real pH meter is much better. Not something the average wrencher will own though.
But you are confused on how the pH scale works. It does specifically measure the strength of an acid (or a base as well). Do a few Google (or Bing) searches, there's some good reviews out there in simple terms. Like this one:
(stolen from pH Scale). The scale runs from 0 to 14. The LOWER the number, the stronger the acid. Pure clean distilled water should have a pH of 7, right in the middle. Note how hydrochloric acid will have a pH around 1, while vinegar is around 3. So, flushing H2SO4 with vinegar will reduce it's acidity, but not by much. A better thing to use the neutralize an acid is baking soda, it's not a stong base so the reaction will be mild. Do NOT use ammonia to neutralize strong acids, the reaction will be very violent and it may splash on you causing burns, and I believe it releases strong noxious chlorine gas.
You can buy pH test srips at most pharmacies, but a real pH meter is much better. Not something the average wrencher will own though.
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I cant believe you guys are still " hackin" this question , there is nothing here !!! ...
those /most coolants are "sympacitico" .. the only change/causality is the color .. mix red with green .. you get brown ..
those /most coolants are "sympacitico" .. the only change/causality is the color .. mix red with green .. you get brown ..
