LX700h announcement (4 Viewers)

[Rednexus]

It is biased to lower fuel consumption, not to minimize wear. If it is meant to do that it would need to led the ICE run under load for quite while until oil temps get real up. Our daughters Honda Accord Hybrid definitely does not do that, I am sure Toyota is trying to please EPA goals and MPG marketing as well.

The modern Toyotas have an advanced cooling system with computer-controlled valves that direct coolant to high-wear areas during warmup. In cold weather, ours starts up and does not enter EV mode at all for several minutes. It's not hard to computer-control these sorts of things in 2024.

I don't disagree that CAFE standards lead to rube goldberg systems like this, BUT Toyota has certainly thought of the wear issue and addressed it. Their hybrids have been out for 20 years at this point and are very reliable (outside of EGR problems in one of the previous Prius gens). I'd avoid knocking Toyota hybrid until you've owned one. They are exceptional.

I'll snap some pictures when I remember underhood of our Highlander Hybrid and my GX470. Spoiler alert: The GX470 is significantly more complicated, packed, and harder to work on. There is room for a whole family of racoons under the hood of the Highlander, despite it being 16 years newer. The header install on my GX took a whopping ~20 hours of my time.

 

[Joe T]

So this may have been answered, but I read the 700 OT has AVS and AHC? Is this what my 2024 Fsport comes with? Also has anyone seen one in N height and with exit assist lowering? I would move my Vossens with 285/45/22 which are .6” (15mm) shorter than stock

I am kinda on the fence as I can get a better optioned 700 OT as it comes with massaging seats, lockers, and the 3.0 safety thing for not a lot more $$ out of my pocket.

But I may want to keep my simpler 600. I hardly use my massaging seats in my sclass and f250. On my f250 one seat malfunctions but I had to repack the airbag at one point.

The safety and self drive stuff also gets dated and becomes a maintenance item.

I want to start modding my 600 if I plan to keep it.


The main reasons I would want the 700 is because I think the 600 has a flutter in the throttle when its shifting and the suspension bounces some in certain conditions. The transmission tuning is also complete trash joke on the 600. I would need to get it tuned if I keep it.

 

[mrlittlejeans]

AFAIK, AVS has been standard on all trims and AHC was optional on some trims but won't be going forward.

 

[Joe T]

So it has both? And so does my Fsport?

 

[mrlittlejeans]

The 700's have both. The F-Sport has AVS and I believe AHC was an option so yours may or may not have AHC. Your smaller screen below the radio will show arrows by the side steps in the LX picture and have a light in the instrument cluster showing the current height if you have it. You'd also have two buttons by the center diff lock button with arrows for raising or lowering the height.

 

[TaishoCruiser]

Took a break from 'mud, looking at cars online, and everything other than work and sleep for a few weeks after putting a deposit on an Overtrail LX. Came back online, saw pictures and video of the rear cargo area and...

I love the added Overtrail capability on the LX, really. But I think I'm going to pass. I know the 'regular' LX doesn't have lockers, and it will be a bit of work to add them, but I can add lockers more easily than I can fix that mess of a cargo area.

 

[Oakleyguy]

Took a break from 'mud, looking at cars online, and everything other than work and sleep for a few weeks after putting a deposit on an Overtrail LX. Came back online, saw pictures and video of the rear cargo area and...

I love the added Overtrail capability on the LX, really. But I think I'm going to pass. I know the 'regular' LX doesn't have lockers, and it will be a bit of work to add them, but I can add lockers more easily than I can fix that mess of a cargo area.

You could always go for the 2 row version. Shouldn't be any worse than the current US LC250. Although I haven't seen any photos published of the two row yet.

 

[Joe T]

The 700's have both. The F-Sport has AVS and I believe AHC was an option so yours may or may not have AHC. Your smaller screen below the radio will show arrows by the side steps in the LX picture and have a light in the instrument cluster showing the current height if you have it. You'd also have two buttons by the center diff lock button with arrows for raising or lowering the height.

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Ah yes I should be clearer. I have AHC but I read something saying the OT has both AVS and AHC. Is this what the Fsport has?

 

[TaishoCruiser]

You could always go for the 2 row version. Shouldn't be any worse than the current US LC250. Although I haven't seen any photos published of the two row yet.

Ah - poking around online a bit more. So the two row LX700h has a flat cargo area like the LX600, GX550 etc? Again I've missed a few weeks of updates but saw a few recent pictures, the video above, and when I called to check in with the dealer, was told, maybe incorrectly, that I'd be stuck with the hump in the trunk for an Overtrail.

 

[tbisaacs]

Ah yes I should be clearer. I have AHC but I read something saying the OT has both AVS and AHC. Is this what the Fsport has?

AVS = adaptive variable suspension AKA ability to change dampening between comfort and sport etc. Your truck has it.

 

[carboncycles]

Wonder if the OT version will bump up their GC. The 2025 GX550 OT versions get ~9.8" with a new 1" lift.

 

[Docyota]

Took a break from 'mud, looking at cars online, and everything other than work and sleep for a few weeks after putting a deposit on an Overtrail LX. Came back online, saw pictures and video of the rear cargo area and...

I love the added Overtrail capability on the LX, really. But I think I'm going to pass. I know the 'regular' LX doesn't have lockers, and it will be a bit of work to add them, but I can add lockers more easily than I can fix that mess of a cargo area.

Any idea on adding lockers to the Lx600? I'm not aware of any companies that make any bolt ins, and I expect the Lexus versions in the LX700h OT will be challenging to retrofit with the electronics.

I'd like an Overtrail, but don't want AHS. But I'd also like lockers.

 

[turbo8]

Wonder if the OT version will bump up their GC. The 2025 GX550 OT versions get ~9.8" with a new 1" lift.

Not sure how they are getting more ground clearance on the GX without going with bigger tires. The rear diff is the lowest point, and raising the ride height doesn't raise the rear diff.

 

[carboncycles]

Not sure how they are getting more ground clearance on the GX without going with bigger tires. The rear diff is the lowest point, and raising the ride height doesn't raise the rear diff.

Exactly..I think the press release said 33" tires will be standard with the OT LX700h. I'm still not sure how the GX OT/+ will get the extra inch...are they going to really rework the entire suspension for an extra 1"? I guess possibly as they're increasing the base by ~3300ish dollars.

For me, the 1" lift and onboard compressor sounds pretty impressive but having the hybrid setup with triple lockers (and probably 9" of GC with AHC set to high)...that's pretty hard to beat IMO, especially for a proper LC.

 

[Joshuak172]

Yes. As long as the ride quality is solid I’m in.

 

[MRego]

Not sure how they are getting more ground clearance on the GX without going with bigger tires. The rear diff is the lowest point, and raising the ride height doesn't raise the rear diff.

The way people have been doing for years in Land Rovers and Lexus is to change the suspension rods with shorter ones. That tricks the suspension and makes the car sit higher. Of course, that makes the maximum height extension extremely harsh and uncomfortable because there is almost no suspension travel. I guess Toyo/Lexus took notice of that and are trying to replicate an OEM version, which maybe solve the harshness issue.

 

[Joe T]

Didn’t the LX570 get an additional inch of clearance if you put it in an offroad mode and 4L?

Maybe they will do that.

As far as the tires they are .14” taller than lx600 stock, as it looks like they are running the 265 Toyo at3 the gx550 gets.

 

[Joe T]

Any idea on adding lockers to the Lx600? I'm not aware of any companies that make any bolt ins, and I expect the Lexus versions in the LX700h OT will be challenging to retrofit with the electronics.

I'd like an Overtrail, but don't want AHS. But I'd also like lockers.

The third member probably would bolt in. I saw a post once about the rear fsport Torsen running around $3,300.

 

[2021 LC200]

Didn’t the LX570 get an additional inch of clearance if you put it in an offroad mode and 4L?

Maybe they will do that.

As far as the tires they are .14” taller than lx600 stock, as it looks like they are running the 265 Toyo at3 the gx550 gets.

Seems only a bigger tire (diameter) provides more clearance to the differential, however I do get increasing the vehicle to ground height will provide better angles and clearance for the rest of the frame/transmission etc.

 

[Joe T]

These aren’t solid axle so that isn’t necessarily the case.