lx570 v 08 TLC

[KimKman]

Well, I guess technically they're off the asphalt, but a dirt trail like that is not what I would consider "off-road."

Is there a 200 photo section?
Right now buried in snow here in NH so it is a challenge to even get to my house Live up in the woods/hills about a half mile off the road. LC has no real issue though. Will attempt to get a few pics.

 

[dtt255]

Is there a 200 photo section?
Right now buried in snow here in NH so it is a challenge to even get to my house Live up in the woods/hills about a half mile off the road. LC has no real issue though. Will attempt to get a few pics.

Good suggestion!

 

[dtt255]

Well, I guess technically they're off the asphalt, but a dirt trail like that is not what I would consider "off-road."

Well obviously you are not familiar with the desert area I live in. There are not any forestry areas around here.

but anyway I like your pics and videos though....oh wait you DON'T HAVE ANY!

 

[007-FJC]

I kinda like the LX tailights but will never get past the fascia. When you look at the LX from a forward profile it looks sick, but any other angle and it looks like snot.

The LC fascia is doable from any angle

AHC doesn't really interest me either. I want the KDSS to maximize my wheel travel by disconnecting the sway bars. AHC just lifts the vehicle off the ground more. When you pop an airbag, then you'll be bouncing off the bumpstops.

 

[twstrchasr]

Nope only heated!


(oh how I love to correct you...lol)

Woops, I forgot to correct my post. I went to the Toyota site and looked up the features and found that they are only heated..But, since I can't prove it, I'll give you that one ! Touche' !!

I have a car that has cooled seats and quite frankly I'm that impressed. They heat much better than they cool, IMO.

 

[r3run33]

hey i thought the lx has the kdss also??? also i thought only the dealerships have the demo's none are out for sale yet?????????

 

[r3run33]

also the interior is exact except for the materials (binga wood or something like that) and then the extra buttons for the features ahc the camera gizmo thing etc

 

[FirstToy]

also the interior is exact except for the materials (binga wood or something like that) and then the extra buttons for the features ahc the camera gizmo thing etc

what does this mean?

the LX and LC have different interiors.

 

[r3run33]

sorry i shold have been more specific they are verey similar with regards to interior design; the lx just having a few more buttons etc. I just thought the other post saying the lc is bland but the lx one is not.

 

[r3run33]

these do look similar

 

[r3run33]

with the back seats you cant tell which one is which

 

[dclee]

Well obviously you are not familiar with the desert area I live in. There are not any forestry areas around here.

but anyway I like your pics and videos though....oh wait you DON'T HAVE ANY!

Where do you live? I am VERY familiar with the high desert area around Barstow, Edwards AFB, etc. Have been going there for many years. But it's nothing I would call even remotely challenging, unless you count dropping down abandoned mineshafts. :whoops:

BTW, please be clear that I'm not bashing your use of the truck. I think it's great that you get it off-pavement, because not many will. To my mind, this truck is not a hard-core wheeler anyway, it just has the laws of physics working against it. Now, as a long-distance touring/expedition vehicle, it will probably excel, as did its wagon forebears (45, 55, 60, 80, and 100 Series). Most of those earlier trucks you could also get pretty serious with, but IMHO, starting with the 100 and continuing with the 200, the truck just got to be too much of a whale to take on the really tough stuff.

Since you asked, here are some pics of what I consider "serious" off-roading, and if you can find the 2005 NorCal Rubicon video that Snook Offroad did, you can see my green 80 Series in that.

First two are me and my old 80 on the Rubicon (courtesy of James Doh). The third is a Mog in Moab:

 

[twstrchasr]

Holy Hell !! What the Fk is that yellow thing ??? Is that really a Unimog ?? That is really FAR OUT !!!!



Whoever said that the interior of the new 200 is bland needs to get his/her pulse checked !! Hi-tech luxury, YES!! Bland, uhhh, NO !!

As far as this ongoing debate about "serious off-roading" goes, I guess it depends on ones definition of "serious". I really think all LC wagons in stock form are plenty capable. With changing things like tires and removing running boards I consider the LC capable of doing just about anything asked of it, within reason...Some of these things some of you people are talking about doing is way beyond the scope of what the rigs are built to do...Reality people, reality !! No one in their right mind ( Ok, maybe Bam Margera) is going to take a $70,000 + vehicle and tear the s*** out of it like some of you are suggesting to do !! Rock crawling, etc , is not what the LC wagon was built to do..

 

[lexusrottie]

^^^^ I did .

 

[dclee]

Holy Hell !! What the Fk is that yellow thing ??? Is that really a Unimog ?? That is really FAR OUT !!!!



Whoever said that the interior of the new 200 is bland needs to get his/her pulse checked !! Hi-tech luxury, YES!! Bland, uhhh, NO !!

As far as this ongoing debate about "serious off-roading" goes, I guess it depends on ones definition of "serious". I really think all LC wagons in stock form are plenty capable. With changing things like tires and removing running boards I consider the LC capable of doing just about anything asked of it, within reason...Some of these things some of you people are talking about doing is way beyond the scope of what the rigs are built to do...Reality people, reality !! No one in their right mind ( Ok, maybe Bam Margera) is going to take a $70,000 + vehicle and tear the s*** out of it like some of you are suggesting to do !! Rock crawling, etc , is not what the LC wagon was built to do..

Yeah, that's a "slightly modified" Mog, but a Mog nonetheless. Used to be a competition rig built by a guy out of Colorado. For purposes of scale, it should be noted that those tires are ~40" in diameter.

I also agree with your comments re: capability. 100s and 200s are very capable, as I said, but for things other than what the older trucks can do without breaking a sweat, i.e. crawling over big boulders. They're just big beached whales, and expensive whales at that. Because of that, they can't physically do what some of the older trucks can do, they just won't fit, or they'll ground out and get hung up. But I think they would make outstanding expedition rigs. Especially with that IFS setup.

Also, I guess there is a time-impact factor as well. By that I mean, all of these rigs are tough and capable of taking a pounding. Some of the smaller, older trucks can take on the "serious" stuff and get their "X" amount of pounding in a couple of days on a trail like Rubicon, Fordyce, Dusy, Hammers, etc. Then there are the trucks that do "easier" expedition-style wheeling, but is it really easier? Yes, they're not pounding sheetmetal over granite all day long for two days, but they might be pounding their truck over corrugations for four weeks. End result is the same "X" amount of pounding, it just takes longer to get there. And instead of crunched sheetmetal and broken suspension pieces, you might instead have broken motor mounts and frayed wiring. I fully understand this, so take my "serious" comments with a grain of salt.

So I guess I would say my personal definition of "serious" wheeling is that which gets you "X" amount of pounding in the smallest amount of time. Dirt fire-trails do not fall under that definition (for me).

 

[dtt255]

Ok you are right...that is serious wheeling!

That is something I would love to do in a few years...but with 4 young kids, I would be lucky to get a day to myself

I would need some serious mods to the 200 for me to feel comfy putting it on the rubicon, not because the truck could not handle it, but because I would not know how to drive it well enough without knocking it up alot!

I live in the Palm Springs area...so I know there are some nice sandy trails around etc....but I have yet to invest the time to find them with work and the kids.

I know my videos are nothing like Rubicon trailing, but for a first timer, then sure were a hell of alot of fun....which I guess is the goal at the start!

BTW your pics, kick my video's ass!

 

[lexusrottie]

with the back seats you cant tell which one is which

The top picture is the TLC the bottom is the LX570.

 

[dclee]

I know my videos are nothing like Rubicon trailing, but for a first timer, then sure were a hell of alot of fun....which I guess is the goal at the start!

I feel ya brah, you've got the right attitude! We all started out the same way.

And if I haven't already, let me formally invite you to join the NorCal Wagons group (yes, we have lots of SoCalers on the list). It's as laid back and cool a group of wagon wheelers as you will ever meet. If you ever want to tackle the Rubicon, we will be glad to take you and get you through (as long as you are willing to accept some "rock-rash"). We have an annual event called 80Con (because it started out as mostly 80 Series trucks) in the Fall on the Rubicon trail, and a great Death Valley run in the Spring, plus lots of other stuff all year long. Everything is fairly informal and family-oriented (and bring some good recipes because this group eats on the trail like a bunch of Culinary Institute of America grads). It's a great technical resource as well, with lots of familiar MUD names there plus a few others. Check out our group here:

80scool_usa_norcal : 80 Series Land Cruiser Owners Online

 

[dclee]

Holy Hell !! What the Fk is that yellow thing ??? Is that really a Unimog ?? That is really FAR OUT !!!!

BTW, just getting crazy with the silver star and feeling the need to post lots of pics!

First one below is my German Civil Service firetruck (the 404.115 in my sig). Those tires are not stock, they are 42" and with the portal axles there are 18" from the ground to the bottom of the pumpkins (by comparison, that's more than double the ground clearance of a stock 100 Series)! It has since shed its body and I'm dropping a factory Mercedes rebuilt crated OM617A turbo diesel in it, plus we're fabbing a new body from a basic two-seat open top military cab. It will be a crew cab with full internal cage and removable soft-top (sort of like that yellow truck), and cut-down OEM pick-up bed with removable gates to make it a trayback if desired. Rear of frame is being cut by 12" to give it about a 90 degree departure angle.

The other two are basically stock Mogs running... wait for it... Ford Aerostar minivan coils! Otherwise, you can see the amount of flex that is capable with the basic setup and suspension geometry. Those guys at Mercedes are wizards, I tell you! And they did this all on the very first Mogs more than half a century ago, and they haven't changed much up until today, because, really, why mess with perfection?

 

[rdy2run]

AHC AVS vs KDSS what are the differences and which one is better for off road ;p