LX570 Slammed on 33's (6 Viewers)

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@grinchy I was not aware of a middle-of-the-road option in terms of cost. That is good to know, thank you.

Yes, 1.25" is rather mild and you'll be fine lifting that much. The full adjustment is reportedly more like 1.75". It's a slippery slope of more in trade with handling. More static lift puts the front control arms at a steeper angle, narrowing the track width, and causing more toe steer upon cycling the suspension. The rear axle panhard bar also is at a steeper angle, displacing the rear axle off to one side. Hitting a bump will cause the rear end to oscillate left/right more.

It will give you more overall lift even in AHC high positions as it adds to each height mode. Extra high is 80mm lift in the rear. Adding to a base 1.75" lift (~45mm), makes that an incredible 125mm (5"!). Not too shabby and something LC's can't touch. So if that's your focus, that's a good thing. Keep in mind some level of droop travel in the higher positions should be considered though. Generally when I offroad in anything other than smooth fireroads, I'm generally in 4-lo which already gives some added lift.

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I believe you said you're building a newer 2020 LX? Those come with 8-speeds with a great low first gear, and awesome spread. You can practically run any size tire you like without bothering to re-gear, as first gear is practically the same as the old 6-speed with 4.88 regear. If you do go all the way to a 35", then you'll probably want to routinely drive in S7, to lock out 8th gear.


As a advocate of well rounded rigs, I'll reiterate it's easy to compromise the rigs balance with mods such that it loses quite a bit of handling and on-road performance, such that on road handling safety could be compromised. Not trying to be alarmist, but that's the truth with lots of overly built and biased for off-road rigs. When a balanced rig could do 99% of the same stuff, without as many compromises.

To that end, I'd highly recommend 285/60r20 (33.5") tires or even a 295/60r20 (not as common a size) with 1" spacers to increase track width and maintain lateral stability. Both woudl be considered a "34" by traditional measures, which will almost be an unstoppable tire on most any trail. And fit in the spare position. With a 1.25" AHC lift, you'll be sitting pretty.

Again, thank you for the great insight.

I am building an 08, i said earlier that my budget for 2020 (next 12 months) is limited. I didn't mean to confuse you with a 2020 LX. If i could afford a 2020LX, i would not care as much about labor costs for the build. Per your advice, I will start researching tires in those two sizes. I think i will try them both with lifting AHC and without lifting and go from there.

As far as tires in those two sizes, do you have any you could recommend?

Also, i assume that the same consideration will be taken when lowering her 1.25 instead of raising? Has any LX owners adjusted the AHC the other way, to get that nice low look when she is on pavement? I want the car to almost touch the tires when in low so that i can still get in and out easily, for when she is in city-driving mode. Then when it's time to hit the camping spots and trails, i would raise it back up 2.5 inches by sliding the sensors all the way to the opposite end.

I know i have a lot of questions, and i really do appreciate you guys taking the time to educate me on the matter.
 
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My front fenders overlap the 35s in L. So back on topic for the thread, it's "Slammed". I have more lift from sensor if I want it, but I don't until I get step sliders on.

Tires is another well worn topic. The default is KO2 or Ridge Grappler. There are many many other options, and of course some makes/models aren't in every size. You can now also get up to 33" in a pmetric (not 3 ply sidewalls though)
I tend to follow the path less treaded - Examples: Patagonia MT (up to 275/70/18, with 35x12.5 in a couple rim sizes). . . if you want a tall skinny Kenda RT (kr601) has an 35x10.5/17 (it is reviewing really well, tread is Duratrac crossed with Ridge Grappler), also has the 35x12.5 options.
If you're on 20" rims, the Patagonia MT has a 34", I don't remember what the metric measurement was.

I'm on 275/80/18 Kenda ATs. I haven't invested in the 17" steelies I want yet for MTs, so these are as tall skinny as I could find in an 18". Also economical which didn't hurt.
 
@grinchy I was not aware of a middle-of-the-road option in terms of cost. That is good to know, thank you.

Again, thank you for the great insight.

I am building an 08, i said earlier that my budget for 2020 (next 12 months) is limited. I didn't mean to confuse you with a 2020 LX. If i could afford a 2020LX, i would not care as much about labor costs for the build. Per your advice, I will start researching tires in those two sizes. I think i will try them both with lifting AHC and without lifting and go from there.

As far as tires in those two sizes, do you have any you could recommend?

Also, i assume that the same consideration will be taken when lowering her 1.25 instead of raising? Has any LX owners adjusted the AHC the other way, to get that nice low look when she is on pavement? I want the car to almost touch the tires when in low so that i can still get in and out easily, for when she is in city-driving mode. Then when it's time to hit the camping spots and trails, i would raise it back up 2.5 inches by sliding the sensors all the way to the opposite end.

I know i have a lot of questions, and i really do appreciate you guys taking the time to educate me on the matter.

What's your intent for your vehicle and what type of climate do you live in? How aggressive are you looking to build your rig? How hands on are you and willingness to mod? Is rain or snow performance a consideration?
 
What's your intent for your vehicle and what type of climate do you live in? How aggressive are you looking to build your rig? How hands on are you and willingness to mod? Is rain or snow performance a consideration?

Starting next year I want to start traveling across the US and Canada, so she will be seeing different climates. Snow and rain performance is a consideration, and i am very willing to get hands on and mod it as needed. Between my dad, friends, coworkers and you guys, i have access to all the tools and expertise i need. I also make $15 an hour, so something has to be pretty darn difficult for me not to attempt the labor myself. I will say that i have next to nothing for living expenses though, so my entire paychecks just goes towards the car.

As far as how aggressive, i want something that can get me anywhere and back reliably, but i don't need to show off while getting there. Priority is on overlanding with heavy loads, and not rock crawling. I won't be taking difficult lines/trails that are tough on the car when i am off road, unless out of necessity. I just want to keep up with everyone at an LC meet. I also want to be able to find the remote camping, sometimes hard to get to spots, for nights/weeks when i want get away from civilization and enjoy some peace and quiet. There are a lot of beautiful places in the US that i have only dreamed of visiting, and i think that it's time i build myself a vehicle that can get me there.

When i get back into civilization from these off road adventures, i want to be able to use her for work which may include hauling around a trailer full of nail products (i work in wholesale). Ideally, i want to use her to deliver the big orders (like $100k or more), and after i drop off the rental trailer, i would go and explore the trails and camp out for a bit before heading back. This way i can have some of my travel expenses covered by work. We actually had an order for $250k today that was going all the way to the west coast and it was only 3 pallets worth of stuff, so i would imagine the LX can handle much more.

Just to double and triple check, 33/34 inch tires in addition to adding a lot of weight to the vehicle (both with and without a trailer attached), will require higher gears, correct? Like i said i am on a budget so i want to make absolutely sure that i focus on pure necessities first.

Thanks again for your valuable time.
 
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Starting next year I want to start traveling across the US and Canada, so she will be seeing different climates. Snow and rain performance is a consideration, and i am very willing to get hands on and mod it as needed. Between my dad, friends, coworkers and you guys, i have access to all the tools and expertise i need.

As far as how aggressive, i want something that can get me anywhere and back reliably, but i don't need to show off while getting there. Priority is on overloading with heavy loads, and not rock crawling. I won't be taking difficult lines/trails that are tough on the car when i am off road, unless out of necessity. I just want to keep up with everyone at an LC meet. I also want to be able to find the remote camping, sometimes hard to get to spots, for nights/weeks when i want get away from civilization and enjoy some peace and quiet. There are a lot of beautiful places in the US that i have only dreamed of visiting, and i think that it's time i build myself a vehicle that can get me there.

When i get back into civilization from these off road adventures, i want to be able to use her for work which may include hauling around a trailer full of nail products (i work in wholesale). Ideally, i want to use her to deliver the big orders (like $100k or more), and after i drop off the rental trailer, i would go and explore the trails and camp out for a bit before heading back. This way i can have some of my travel expenses covered by work. We actually had an order for $250k today that was going all the way to the west coast and it was only 3 pallets worth of stuff, so i would imagine the LX can handle much more.

Just to double and triple check, 33/34 inch tires in addition to adding a lot of weight to the vehicle (both with and without a trailer attached), will require higher gears, correct? Like i said i am on a budget so i want to make absolutely sure that i focus on pure necessities first.

Thanks again for your valuable time.

Require? No. But as Sam pointed out it will improve drivability As you go up in size and add weight.

I’d start with tires. If you are just over landing a 33” will be totally fine. Start there and adapt as you go.

Good luck!
 
Agree with tbisaacs. Nothing is required. She'll easily do everything you ask.

I agree, slap on a good set of 33s with some mils fender liner tweaks for clearance. 34s are okay too but gearing and braking will start to get impacted.

As you mentioned towing and large loads, be aware that AHC sensor lift will reduce payload slightly as AHC bears more weight. You can lift too but you may need to add spacers to the rear springs especially to restore or increase payload capacity.

Regarding tires, I'm a huge proponent of Falken AT3W tires. They strike a better balance for every use, including heavier winter weather than many AT tires. Doesn't hurt that they are very competitively priced.
 
Jumping in here late - about to put some 'overalls on the prom queen'.. I have a '13 LX570, mostly stock - AFE CAI + JDM chipset are the only mods. Came across a deal too good to pass on - 5 x 315/70R17 BFG KM3's on Matte Black Method 702's for 1/3 MSRP. Will be running a 1" (105 to 5x5) spacer/adapter and possible AHC front sensor lift; rears should clear no problem. KM3's are factory 34.4" at 18/32; these measure out at 13-14/32 which equates to 34.31 to 34.275. I'm a scosh anxious about rubbing/fender well mods/cutting. I figure I can always put the OE's back on if the KM's are too big, sell the 315's & size down some. Spacers should be in tomorrow - swap out on Monday. Will post after photos (if possible). Needless to say, I hope to be posting. Good luck to me.
Second pic is new setup leaned against the installed/OE wheels for reference (size relevance/perspective is off some).. 😳😬

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Jumping in here late - about to put some 'overalls on the prom queen'.. I have a '13 LX570, mostly stock - AFE CAI + JDM chipset are the only mods. Came across a deal too good to pass on - 5 x 315/70R17 BFG KM3's on Matte Black Method 702's for 1/3 MSRP. Will be running a 1" (105 to 5x5) spacer/adapter and possible AHC front sensor lift; rears should clear no problem. KM3's are factory 34.4" at 18/32; these measure out at 13-14/32 which equates to 34.31 to 34.275. I'm a scosh anxious about rubbing/fender well mods/cutting. I figure I can always put the OE's back on if the KM's are too big, sell the 315's & size down some. Spacers should be in tomorrow - swap out on Monday. Will post after photos (if possible). Needless to say, I hope to be posting. Good luck to me.
Second pic is new setup leaned against the installed/OE wheels for reference (size relevance/perspective is off some).. 😳😬

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Good luck! I doubt that spare fits underneath. Have you tried?
 
Jumping in here late - about to put some 'overalls on the prom queen'.. I have a '13 LX570, mostly stock - AFE CAI + JDM chipset are the only mods. Came across a deal too good to pass on - 5 x 315/70R17 BFG KM3's on Matte Black Method 702's for 1/3 MSRP. Will be running a 1" (105 to 5x5) spacer/adapter and possible AHC front sensor lift; rears should clear no problem. KM3's are factory 34.4" at 18/32; these measure out at 13-14/32 which equates to 34.31 to 34.275. I'm a scosh anxious about rubbing/fender well mods/cutting. I figure I can always put the OE's back on if the KM's are too big, sell the 315's & size down some. Spacers should be in tomorrow - swap out on Monday. Will post after photos (if possible). Needless to say, I hope to be posting. Good luck to me.
Second pic is new setup leaned against the installed/OE wheels for reference (size relevance/perspective is off some).. 😳😬

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Nice grab! Keep us updated with some photos after you put on them if you can.

I gave a lot of thought into what @TeCKis300 and @grinchy said, and decided that i am going to re-gear it to 4.88s. I was speaking to my friend earlier about it, and he mentioned that our other friend who ran 38s without regearing ended up blowing his transmission really fast. I know i am not going that big, but the thought of putting all that extra strain on the engine and transmission, in addition to what you guys have stated, was enough to push me over the fence.

Now if i can get a deal like @CURIOUS GEORGE to save money on tires, i'd be a happy man. One thing i did not consider before when asking about tire size, is what the largest tires i can get are if i want to run a dual spare carrier rear bumper? I know 33s are good, but are 34s too big? I plan on relocating the spare and installing a long range fuel tank underneath, and was considering running 2 mud terrains as spares.
 
Thanks. I'll be running a RigD Ultraswing Mega-fit for #5 👍 Ultraswing Mega-Fit
Apparently mine is the test monkey for the 570 set - RigD has done a few 200 LC's but never an LX. Looking forward to getting it all put together.

I would like to hear how the works out. I talked to them a while back and told they didn’t have a 200 compatible ultraswing. I guess that has changed.

I like the idea of not dealing with a swing on a daily basis but having one when needed.
 
Nice grab! Keep us updated with some photos after you put on them if you can.

I gave a lot of thought into what @TeCKis300 and @grinchy said, and decided that i am going to re-gear it to 4.88s. I was speaking to my friend earlier about it, and he mentioned that our other friend who ran 38s without regearing ended up blowing his transmission really fast. I know i am not going that big, but the thought of putting all that extra strain on the engine and transmission, in addition to what you guys have stated, was enough to push me over the fence.

Now if i can get a deal like @CURIOUS GEORGE to save money on tires, i'd be a happy man. One thing i did not consider before when asking about tire size, is what the largest tires i can get are if i want to run a dual spare carrier rear bumper? I know 33s are good, but are 34s too big? I plan on relocating the spare and installing a long range fuel tank underneath, and was considering running 2 mud terrains as spares.
It depends on the carrier. . . If you work with a fab like RLC or @benc you can get what you want. It may take extra time or cost, and you might have to give up the truck for fitting for a few weeks. An easier approach is to gat a single rear and put a spare underneath. Limit is 34” or a smidge lower to hang under. With three ply tires getting two unrepairable flats at once is really highly unlikely. To get three such flats would be astronomically unlikely. What is the driver for two spares?
 
It depends on the carrier. . . If you work with a fab like RLC or @benc you can get what you want. It may take extra time or cost, and you might have to give up the truck for fitting for a few weeks. An easier approach is to gat a single rear and put a spare underneath. Limit is 34” or a smidge lower to hang under. With three ply tires getting two unrepairable flats at once is really highly unlikely. To get three such flats would be astronomically unlikely. What is the driver for two spares?

Thank you, i will get in touch with @benc and see what he can do for me when i get closer to that point. The bumper is one of the last steps in my build, but will have go to that route if i want 2 spares because the under spare will be relocated for the long range fuel tank.

I have a honda ruckus i can ride around in, so giving her up for a couple weeks isn't a big concern as long as she is in good hands. My only real concern is cost as i have seen rear bumpers get really pricey, but i do want dual spares. Also, will having rear bumper with spares affect the towing?

Sorry if this is getting off topic of @TeCKis300 's thread, but you guys seem like really knowledgeable people and this seems like a good place to ask.

The reason for 2 spares is so i can swap out the tire type depending on the terrain, as in i want to run 2 really aggressive tires (MTs) as spares and run ATs as mains. If one tire goes out i would just swap 2, and worst case scenario i would just run diff types if both tire types went out and i needed to still get somewhere. I don't like the thought of packing it up and going home after 1 tire goes out, and i like the idea of being able to swap out 2 tires for better traction on muddy roads. I just have a hard time picturing what would be more valuable to carry in that valuable space on the bumper other than another tire. With the LR Fuel Tank i do not need jerry cans, and the shovel/hi lift can still be mounted with 2 spares.
 
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Go ahead and start a build thread if you want to centralize discussion in one place. Sounds like you’re headed in a good direction and that can help you save it for others.

I originally thought I’d get two sets of tires four each and keep them the same size and run one of each as the fifth. But in reality it’s just super fiddly, and rims in particular aren’t so expensive that you can’t have two sets.

I found out that my at and mt tires would be different sizes (I expect to go around 33 for the mts) where the at all arounders I went bigger on.
There are a lot of choices and lots of room to change as you use the truck and find out what you really want.
 
Thanks. I'll be running a RigD Ultraswing Mega-fit for #5 👍 Ultraswing Mega-Fit
Apparently mine is the test monkey for the 570 set - RigD has done a few 200 LC's but never an LX. Looking forward to getting it all put together.

Just FYI, one of the co-founders of RigD was featured in the March/April issue of Tread Magazine. He's got the Ultraswing on his Tacoma.
 
Cause I know how much you guys love the Sport in SUV. Time to go hunting for some AMGs.

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Do you remember whether the 1” spacers were the minimum needed for clearance?

Would you happen to have an opinion on whether 0.75” spacers would suffice?
 
Just FYI, one of the co-founders of RigD was featured in the March/April issue of Tread Magazine. He's got the Ultraswing on his Tacoma.
Well, did they ever make the Ultraswing fit your LX? I don't see one as compatible on their website, and I was interested. If not, any other good options? Sorry to revive such an old thread, but when I searched Ultraswing this is the only one that came up.
 
Well, did they ever make the Ultraswing fit your LX? I don't see one as compatible on their website, and I was interested. If not, any other good options? Sorry to revive such an old thread, but when I searched Ultraswing this is the only one that came up.
I don't have an answer, but this is probably a better thread to bump. If they have a fitment for an LC (i didn't check if they did), i can't imagine it wouldn't work on an LX.

 
Jumping in here late - about to put some 'overalls on the prom queen'.. I have a '13 LX570, mostly stock - AFE CAI + JDM chipset are the only mods. Came across a deal too good to pass on - 5 x 315/70R17 BFG KM3's on Matte Black Method 702's for 1/3 MSRP. Will be running a 1" (105 to 5x5) spacer/adapter and possible AHC front sensor lift; rears should clear no problem. KM3's are factory 34.4" at 18/32; these measure out at 13-14/32 which equates to 34.31 to 34.275. I'm a scosh anxious about rubbing/fender well mods/cutting. I figure I can always put the OE's back on if the KM's are too big, sell the 315's & size down some. Spacers should be in tomorrow - swap out on Monday. Will post after photos (if possible). Needless to say, I hope to be posting. Good luck to me.
Second pic is new setup leaned against the installed/OE wheels for reference (size relevance/perspective is off some).. 😳😬

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