LX470 or LX570, the agony...

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Hmmm, I’ve got pristine examples of both, an 06 with 90k and a 15 with 40k. I struggle to think of areas where the 200 series is better than the 100. It’s bigger, uglier (IMO), has less ground clearance, and more onerous bumper overhangs. It also has a lower quality interior I think. Little things bug me about the 200. They moved the ahc reservoir from the engine bay and stuffed it in the rear wheel well??? I prefer the mechanical handle on the rear hatch to the rubberized electrical switch. I also prefer the 4wd shift lever to the button. Although not much bigger on paper, the 200 is nowhere near as nimble to drive as the 100. Also, if you remove running boards like I did you will notice ahc globes hanging so low they need their own mini sliders for protection. On the 100 they’re tucked up nice and tight, and aren’t visible. The 200 is a great truck of course, I’ll have it for a long time cuz I think the 300 is gonna suck, I guess I just don’t “love” it at this point. Maybe it’ll grow on me.

PS The stereo in the 200 is superior
 
I can add the LX570 rear sticks out too far. Bad clearance when on approach on steep angles. The crawl control is its best option in my opinion. Last spring I had a chance to test it out and was very happy with its ability to hold the vehicle on a very steep slope. If I had tried that in my GX470 it would have been sliding for sure.
 
My brother bought my '06 LX470. It's actually in my driveway next to my LX570 as he's visiting for the holidays. I agree with many of the comments here. Yet I have no desire to go back as the LX570 is the newer, finer, tighter vehicle.

The primary reason I upgraded to the LX570 is the engine and towing ability. It's way more powerful. The chassis is more capable in handling higher weights. The LX470 in the later vvti variants was fine and great. Just that it wouldn't handle the size of the trailer that I bought the LX570 for.
 
I've been looking at 200's as well as 570's, ready to sell my very well maintained 80.
You guys are :cry: bring me down.
 
Sandroad said:
“Wife really likes the 570”. What in the world is there to agonize over?
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oh no. when "my wife likes it" it usually means the correct choice is the opposite. Well thats for me only.

im finding towing sucks on the lx470. im gonna change the fuel pump and maybe switch the setting in the transmission to give her another chance. maybe theres a restriction there in the fuel as its not going uphill as good as it used to.

ive read good things on the lx570 but im still in love with my lx470.

thank you for your input.👍
 
PDoyle said:
I've been looking at 200's as well as 570's, ready to sell my very well maintained 80.
You guys are :cry: bring me down.
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I made the move and sold my mostly restored and built 80 last December. All I had left to update was the interior. I was drawn to the V8 and comfort of the 200 since I spend about equal time on and off road. I loved the 80 and still think it’s a much cooler truck - but I don’t regret moving to the 2014 Land Cruiser. They are very different vehicles though. Really no comparison at all. In my opinion, the 200 is far superior in almost every way. But the 200 definitely lacks the ‘cool’ factor that the 80 has.

If you’re on the fence, my vote would be to just do it. The 200 has the same aftermarket support and is still a beast offroad - and you’ll be way more comfy from the driveway to the trail. I live in Oregon and do a LOT of weekend road tripping. I can’t imaging doing this much driving in the 80. The 80 wasn’t my daily driver but I had to downsize and the 200 was the practical option. Anyhow...no ragrets (TM).
 
Thank you, that is reassuring. Running through the posts here for a while seeing trucks can be 💻 "hacked" , changing the oil looks painful, and some head gasket issues. Argh.
But I've had the 80 for a long time, and it's time to make a change and nowhere else to go.
 
PDoyle said:
Thank you, that is reassuring. Running through the posts here for a while seeing trucks can be 💻 "hacked" , changing the oil looks painful, and some head gasket issues. Argh.
But I've had the 80 for a long time, and it's time to make a change and nowhere else to go.
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That's the first instance of a hacked 200 I know of on this board, oil changes aren't bad at all, and if head gaskets are a thing they are exceedingly rare. Radiator failure yes, but easy to watch for issues and usually plenty of time to address it. Water pump likely but not catastrophic, a couple other little problem areas sure. But IMO between the lack of birf soup issues and power/mileage/comfort/overall rock-solid reliability, unless you need the articulation and smaller size of an 80, or want to minimize the pain of beating the crap out of it (get a 100), the 200 is a slam dunk if you can afford one.

Oil change: remove driver's side skid and plastic cover, remove under-engine skid (or just the access panel, I do the whole thing), drain oil, remove filter housing plug, insert drain tool, remove filter housing cap, change o-rings/drain gasket and reassemble. For me a full oil change including my usual engine degreaser (timing cover oil leak) takes about a half hour usually.
 
bloc said:
That's the first instance of a hacked 200 I know of on this board, oil changes aren't bad at all, and if head gaskets are a thing they are exceedingly rare. Radiator failure yes, but easy to watch for issues and usually plenty of time to address it. Water pump likely but not catastrophic, a couple other little problem areas sure. But IMO between the lack of birf soup issues and power/mileage/comfort/overall rock-solid reliability, unless you need the articulation and smaller size of an 80, or want to minimize the pain of beating the crap out of it (get a 100), the 200 is a slam dunk if you can afford one.

Oil change: remove driver's side skid and plastic cover, remove under-engine skid (or just the access panel, I do the whole thing), drain oil, remove filter housing plug, insert drain tool, remove filter housing cap, change o-rings/drain gasket and reassemble. For me a full oil change including my usual engine degreaser (timing cover oil leak) takes about a half hour usually.
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Im in the " beat the crap out of it group" but it seems like parts are more readily available for the 200. I think I read somewhere its based on the tundra platform so parts are more easier to get and in stock in north america? I wonder if the parts for the 200 are less expensive than the 100? And i love the 80 but still want a good towing option.

Anyways Ive been waiting for my 100 to breakdown but looks like i need to wait for the zombie apocalapse before that happens.
 
bloc said:
That's the first instance of a hacked 200 I know of on this board, oil changes aren't bad at all, and if head gaskets are a thing they are exceedingly rare. Radiator failure yes, but easy to watch for issues and usually plenty of time to address it. Water pump likely but not catastrophic, a couple other little problem areas sure. But IMO between the lack of birf soup issues and power/mileage/comfort/overall rock-solid reliability, unless you need the articulation and smaller size of an 80, or want to minimize the pain of beating the crap out of it (get a 100), the 200 is a slam dunk if you can afford one.

Oil change: remove driver's side skid and plastic cover, remove under-engine skid (or just the access panel, I do the whole thing), drain oil, remove filter housing plug, insert drain tool, remove filter housing cap, change o-rings/drain gasket and reassemble. For me a full oil change including my usual engine degreaser (timing cover oil leak) takes about a half hour usually.
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When a vehicle with a US license plate travels around Montreal, it is considered marked. Period. There are pros there just waiting to take your Sh!t. So the hack is really no surprise. Just a little scary. Yes this is the first time on this forum but who knows, there are people who own these trucks that don't frequent MUD. Hey we can't all be cool.
I'm going to start putting together little metal boxes now to hide the keys:smuggrin:
 
I'm sort of in a similar situation. Bear with me for a bit.

My wife recently sold her Subaru and has been using the summer convertible (2014 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon) for the last month. The reliability of the Subaru was acceptable but not great. The Jeep is even worse but we both love driving the Jeep in the summer with the top and doors off so it's staying in the stable for now.

So now that we are shopping for a vehicle for her, we've decided to stick with a Toyota or Lexus as "drama free" is the top priority. I've had multiple Toyota's and I'm currently on my 2nd LC with the first being a 97 LX. The RX is the top on her list but a 2017 RX with 35k miles is in a similar price range as a 2013 LX with 75k miles. Which leads me to think that I might want to sell my 2005 if she goes for the RX. For what it's worth, my 2005 has 160k miles, up to date on all maintenance, runs perfect, and is 99% rust free. I absolutely love my LC100 but looking at the newer LX's is like going to a strip club. You REALLY want to touch one but you know you nothing good is going to come of it. So does anyone else think it's a smart idea to sell a perfectly fine 100 to get into a LX200? Or should I just enjoy the shopping experience and stick with the 100 until I hit 300k.
 
I couldn't let go of my 100 after we bought the 200. However if I could just have one it would be the 200 since it is a great family trip car. No way I would have driven from Orlando to Austin last Friday in the 16 1/2 hour straight shot in the 100. I don't like driving the 100 over 75 mph plus the 4 speed sucks on the interstate. The 200 cruises great on the highway with plenty of power and feels stable approaching triple digits. I delegated my 100 to an occasional daily driver but I did just spend a bunch of money on it on maintenance and to make it look cool.
 
loop737 said:
Ha ha, because that' what landcruisers have always been about, triple digit speeds. Think you might be driving a bit too fast?
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Pretty sure all “100” posts in this thread so far are referring to a 100-series LandCruiser, not the speed at which they are driven.
 
lol
 
loop737 said:
Ha ha, because that' what landcruisers have always been about, triple digit speeds. Think you might be driving a bit too fast?
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We have 75 mph to 85 mph speed limits in Texas and anytime I go to pass someone in the 200 series it gets to 90-95 mph before you realize it. Utah has high speed limits too of 80 mph. I said approaching triple digits speeds and I don't drive it over 100 mph. I don't feel safe driving my 20 year old 100 series 85 mph+ for any long distance on the highway and the 4sp sucks at those speeds. If you ever drive West Texas the traffic usually flows 80-90 mph with a 75 mph speed limit. We have a tollway with 85 mph speed limit and traffic usually flows at 90 mph+. The 200 feels much more planted at higher speeds maybe due to the extra weight. I read on MUD the 200 will go 130mph top speed and faster if it didn't have a governor. I wouldn't drive my 200 over 100 mph due to the AT tire speed rating. Also for me the 200 has newer safety features and more airbags than my 100 since it only has the two front airbags.
 
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