LSD v.s Lockers

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Poser said:
Anyone know of a Chromo drive slug/caps for Toy axles? I know Long has the Chromo lock out gear....


Out fishing for broken ARB's.....and find this:



Long does it again....


Too cool Sir. :beer:
TOYOTADRIVEFLANGE.webp
 
You are aware that if you deselect 4wd at the transfer case with the front hubs locked, your autolocker freespools, SO you can just use hit the tcase lever and leave the lockouts engaged when you intermittently need 4wd...

I tend to engage and unengage the front driveshaft frequently in between obstacles, to reduce stress on the steering when I don't need the front axle.

sandcruiser said:
I don't have an LSD nor a locking front diff... but I'd rather install an LSD up front than any autolocker.

But!
I spend a LOT of time in 4wd. Miles and miles and miles every week. On "roads" that are very muddy/sandy/rutted.
 
Poser said:
Please explain how this is a negative.

in my experience 40's with any amount of body roll handle like s*** onroad with an open diff, they pick up inside wheels through corners and just spin them, especially if it's a damp road etc. locked or lsd seems to make my 40 handle better
 
bad_religion_au said:
in my experience 40's with any amount of body roll handle like s*** onroad with an open diff, they pick up inside wheels through corners and just spin them, especially if it's a damp road etc. locked or lsd seems to make my 40 handle better



If you are carrying inside tires on road when in a corner, you are going to damn fast....and should be on your roof....where your auto locker and or slip will serve you even better. ;)
 
Poser said:
If you are carrying inside tires on road when in a corner, you are going to damn fast....and should be on your roof....where your auto locker and or slip will serve you even better. ;)


not going that fast :grinpimp:

i was dreading onroad driving when i threw the detroit in the back (but i got it cheap) and was pleasantly surprised at how it improved things
 
I must not have been clear:
I use 4wd on the roads. They suck. Ruts, mud, gravel, sand, puddles of unknown depth (definately more than a couple inches, less than a couple feet, sometimes firm-bottom, sometimes not). DEEP ditches on the sides into which you really don't want to slide....

So, yes, I know you can switch from 2 to 4 and vice versa. I know it can even be done on the fly if you are coordinated enough.

But
If I were to slow down and switch in/out of 4wd for every 'obstacle' I encounter in a half-hour drive, it would become an hourlong drive.

And switching into 4wd when you are already bogged down in a mud pit isn't nearly as likely to get you out as it is to use 4wd in the first place.

I don't have anything in the front, and an ARB in the back. I use 4 hi a lot, and if I do get stuck, I flip the ARB on and it is enough most of the time. I would love a front ARB, but don't really think it is worth the price since I would only use it to get myself stuck in deeper, harder to get out of mud! But, an LSD up front would be a reasonable addition. Heck, an LSD in the back would be great for the type of driving I do most of the time... but the ARB is better.

One of the things I like best about the ARB is that I can drive w/ the open diff until I just can't get through something, then flip the ARB on and have more traction to get myself unstuck. With an autolocker, you get the help all the time... so if you get stuck with that, you've got to winch or get strapped, or dig, or whatever. For running trails with friends, that's fine. For daily driving in 4wd conditions, that isn't as good.

As others have said: it all depends on your needs. I would agree absolutely that an LSD in the rear isn't a great solution for rock-crawling or for group Off Road trips. Better than nothing, but not much better.


CruisinGA said:
You are aware that if you deselect 4wd at the transfer case with the front hubs locked, your autolocker freespools, SO you can just use hit the tcase lever and leave the lockouts engaged when you intermittently need 4wd...

I tend to engage and unengage the front driveshaft frequently in between obstacles, to reduce stress on the steering when I don't need the front axle.
 
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