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Mtbcoach

Mtbcoach

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Long time coming, its time to pull the engine/tranny/transfer case from the 45 and get it moving in the right direction. I have learned so much from all the HAMOM's I've attended but haven't done this task first hand.

What I'm asking for is all your secret tricks to get this done. Being a virgin (please be gentle) at this task, I've spent as much time as one can looking over the FSM but that just doesn't cover the scope of the project.

This will be in preparation to do the 2F-E project, install new wiring harness and get it functioning as it should.

I know everyone has their plan of attack and I'm open to suggestions as to the best/easiest way to get this done. I still have one of Greg's lifts and a fresh engine stand to bolt the 2F up to, a floor jack, plenty of stands with enough power tools to get the job done (I hope).

I just need the know-how.

Thanks in advance for your insight, guidance and pointing out the obvious...:beer:
 
One little thing that can become a big thing is LABEL EVERYTHING!!! Every wire, hose, nut, bolt, everything. A box of zip lock sandwich bags, pen and pad and some masking tape are the tools required. When you take say the altenator off, put the bolts in a bag and label them as such. When you pull a wire off the motor write on masking tape wherre it goes and wrap the tape around the end of that wire like a tab.

It is easy to think that you can remember this stuff, and today or tomorrow you may, two months from now you'll be saying "what the heck does this wire do"?

Got to Northern Tool or similar and get yourself a couple cheap dollies, no you cant just steal them from your daughter's room, different type of dollie. These are used to set the motor, trans, transfer case on and move around the shop. The wheel is your friend and all this stuff is heavy.

It may be easier to remove the radiator and grill assembly than it is to try to pull the motor and trans up and over it. Take the hood all the way off. Drain all the fluids before you start tearing it down. Have some oil dry or saw dust around to soak up spills, you will spill.

An ATV jack is a great tool for dropping the transfer case and the trans if you choose not to remove it with the motor. A motor leveler for the engine hoist will make the job easier as well. It will help you change the position of the motor/trans as you pull it out. Plan out your route with the hoist before you pull the motor out.

Take a ton of photos of the engine bay, trans and t case connections prior to taking anything apart. It makes re assembly later easier when you have forgotten a bunch of little details.

Don't let Ruby help, she is all thumbs :)
 
wow, he got it ALL covered right there... good write up!
 
NCFJ said:
One little thing that can become a big thing is LABEL EVERYTHING!!! Every wire, hose, nut, bolt, everything. A box of zip lock sandwich bags, pen and pad and some masking tape are the tools required. When you take say the altenator off, put the bolts in a bag and label them as such. When you pull a wire off the motor write on masking tape wherre it goes and wrap the tape around the end of that wire like a tab.

It is easy to think that you can remember this stuff, and today or tomorrow you may, two months from now you'll be saying "what the heck does this wire do"?

Got to Northern Tool or similar and get yourself a couple cheap dollies, no you cant just steal them from your daughter's room, different type of dollie. These are used to set the motor, trans, transfer case on and move around the shop. The wheel is your friend and all this stuff is heavy.

It may be easier to remove the radiator and grill assembly than it is to try to pull the motor and trans up and over it. Take the hood all the way off. Drain all the fluids before you start tearing it down. Have some oil dry or saw dust around to soak up spills, you will spill.

An ATV jack is a great tool for dropping the transfer case and the trans if you choose not to remove it with the motor. A motor leveler for the engine hoist will make the job easier as well. It will help you change the position of the motor/trans as you pull it out. Plan out your route with the hoist before you pull the motor out.

Take a ton of photos of the engine bay, trans and t case connections prior to taking anything apart. It makes re assembly later easier when you have forgotten a bunch of little details.

Don't let Ruby help, she is all thumbs :)
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Yeah, the hood, radiator, grill and front fenders will more than likely be removed for better access. I just bought a 50lb bag of oil dry but if you've seen my driveway, its clear that I don't keep it accessible.

Good idea with the low profile dolly to move things around, I'll have to hit Harbor Freight this weekend for some wheels for sure...

96Cruiser13 said:
wow, he got it ALL covered right there... good write up!
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Yes, Stan is typically very thorough when it comes to these things...
 
Stan forgot the most important part...... lots and lots of :beer:
 
krzyabncanuck said:
The only thing i got is take more pics and start a post on here.

Other than that get started.
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So there is no secret levitation button? Yeah, it's been long overdue...

lt1fire said:
Stan forgot the most important part...... lots and lots of :beer:
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Makes sense to me but Stan isn't really a beer drinker...:beer:
 
Mtbcoach said:
So there is no secret levitation button? Yeah, it's been long overdue...



Makes sense to me but Stan isn't really a beer drinker...:beer:
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Never trust a man that doesn't drink beer :flipoff2:
 
Man, I quit drinking when it bacame legal for me.

Military is saying now that they are going to look at reinstating the 18 year old drinking age on post for active duty.

I have done this numrous times so if you need help give me a hollar. Will help you anyway i can.
 
krzyabncanuck said:
Man, I quit drinking when it bacame legal for me.

Military is saying now that they are going to look at reinstating the 18 year old drinking age on post for active duty.

I have done this numrous times so if you need help give me a hollar. Will help you anyway i can.
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Thanks, but you have plenty on your plate already. I know it's not rocket science, just wanted to be sure I didn't need that flying doohickey nut removal device when I'm up to my elbows in it. I try to cover up my lack of skill with too much information so I have no excuses...:beer:
 
Labels,ziplocks, and pictures, and have a clean space available twice as big as you think you need to lay everything out on. I ended up using some vynil I had around here and writing right on it as I would lay down bits and pieces on it.


i removed the radiator and grill, as well as dropping the tcase and 4spd out the bottom.

For removing the tcase and tranny you can use the motor hoist through the window or even a 2x4 through the windows with the doors shut and a come along. Makes the package lighter and easier to manuver. oh yeah and disconnect ALL the lines before trying to pull it. :D

also its easiest to break the crank nut loose before removing it from the frame if you need too

Do you need to remove the motor? how bout transfer/tranny combo?
prefer to work outside the truck or just going to clean it up a bit too?

I can point and BS and drink your beer, holler if you need a hand.
 
jfz80 said:
Labels,ziplocks, and pictures, and have a clean space available twice as big as you think you need to lay everything out on. I ended up using some vynil I had around here and writing right on it as I would lay down bits and pieces on it.


i removed the radiator and grill, as well as dropping the tcase and 4spd out the bottom.

For removing the tcase and tranny you can use the motor hoist through the window or even a 2x4 through the windows with the doors shut and a come along. Makes the package lighter and easier to manuver. oh yeah and disconnect ALL the lines before trying to pull it. :D

also its easiest to break the crank nut loose before removing it from the frame if you need too

Do you need to remove the motor? how bout transfer/tranny combo?
prefer to work outside the truck or just going to clean it up a bit too?

I can point and BS and drink your beer, holler if you need a hand.
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Thanks Jason.

I'm just trying to be "smart" and do it "right". Don't know how that will work for me since I'm venturing into new territory...being smart that is.

Yes, I want to work on it outside the engine bay, clean things up and make sure I don't miss things.

You are welcome anytime to point and beer until your knee is good. After that, I'll put you to work...
 
Does your transmission tunnel separate easily from the floor?

from your intro pics I seem to remember it being new, or custom, or different color and not all rhinolined over the edges. I would definately drop the t-case/transmission down onto a floor jack or I used my creeper so I could drag it out easily. Make sure you have enough clearance to drag it out the side or ability to still safely jack it up to make room. (sound proof the tunnel while it is out)

the actual removal and install was the easiest part here minus the trying to clear the bumper with the oil pan with the hoist at max height and zero air in the tires.:rolleyes:

a sacrificial tree saver proved nice on the hoist as it spun easily and didnt put stress on any accesories -- if you have a load bar its less of a concern

install is nice to have second hands to line pins up on back of motor and bellhousing or a pry bar to twist and push works

stamp your driveshaft flanges for reinstallation orientation

chock your tires :idea:

I dont know your driveway details but Ive seen some guys put their vehicles up on dollies as mentioned so they can move the whole vehicle out of the way as well.

give me a shout, cant move all that well yet but better each day and I did manage to rescue two vehicles yesterday on crutches :bounce:

silly:princess:drivers
 
Drain and label everything. Take a ton of pics if you don't know where everything goes. Bag all small stuff and label the bags. It's easy once you get to this point. Remove the shifters


Put a floor jack under the tranny. Attach the hoist and get it to start holding weight. Remove the engine mount bolts. Crank the engine up a little. Remove the rear bell housing mounts. (This helps a ton in getting it out.
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Notice the floor jack under the tranny.
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Hey, If Ian Johnson can build an entire tube frame in one half hour episode, you should be able to pull a motor out in the same amount of time.
 
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