Last pic is befor i took the 32s off the rear. Only place they rub is up front at bottom of fender. Needs smacked with a big fxxxing hammer.
But other wiese i was able to stuff them all the way. 259,700 miles on truck. No lift what ya think?
Look mom no lift clearing 34s
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Last pic is befor i took the 32s off the rear. Only place they rub is up front at bottom of fender. Needs smacked with a big fxxxing hammer.
But other wiese i was able to stuff them all the way. 259,700 miles on truck. No lift what ya think?
I think your springs must be in great shape - I would bet my FJ62 wheel arches would rest on the top of those tires while she sat in the drive way - at the very least the arches would be torn off as I pulled out of the drive way and into the street.
As a side note when I was having my donuts balanced the salesman at Discount tires said he bet that 33x10.5 BFG muds would fit without a lift. I had to call BS on him.
As a side note when I was having my donuts balanced the salesman at Discount tires said he bet that 33x10.5 BFG muds would fit without a lift. I had to call BS on him.
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The last pic shows some 32 bfg ATs 11.50 wide . they were inch and a half from inner wheel well at full stuff. The 34s are just shy of a inch of clearance between the wheel and wheelwell. And like inch maybe inch and a half clearance still on top. On the rock i was sitting on my bumbstop!
Do you have longer shackles? I ran 34x12.50 trxus with an inch of shackle lift and and an inch of body and only rubbed in a couple spots that can easily be trimmed. Im sure that with a 10.50 it would have been fine. Id look into shackles and a body lift, i bet that you could clear them realyl well with that setup.
Be really careful driving it that way. I sold my s10 to a guy who was bragging about the 33s he put under his s10 with no lift. He said the only problem was that sometimes if he turned a corner the tires would bind in the wheelwells 
Your tires are larger then 34 when turned
Your tires are larger then 34 when turned
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clearing aint no prob
depending on the shape of your springs, the FJ62's can clear larger than OEM tread just fine...
my first tire was a 33X12.50 Swamper SSR that cleared front and rear...the front rubbed on SHARP turns with the tire's cranked in either the direction against that front droop from the fender...
the back's rubbed only once when we piled 13 people in the cruiser for some offroading...obviously, w/o lift, the fender kept sittin on the tread, but only on bumps!
With the 4.11 axle gears too, the FJ62 does great with a 33...but of course, once you go that far, why not an add-a-leaf or ext. shackle and so on...i mean, with a 15" suspension lift and 3" body (+ wheel spacers) the crusier can fit a 44"...not smart on the stock components, but don't mean it can't be done.
depending on the shape of your springs, the FJ62's can clear larger than OEM tread just fine...
my first tire was a 33X12.50 Swamper SSR that cleared front and rear...the front rubbed on SHARP turns with the tire's cranked in either the direction against that front droop from the fender...
the back's rubbed only once when we piled 13 people in the cruiser for some offroading...obviously, w/o lift, the fender kept sittin on the tread, but only on bumps!
With the 4.11 axle gears too, the FJ62 does great with a 33...but of course, once you go that far, why not an add-a-leaf or ext. shackle and so on...i mean, with a 15" suspension lift and 3" body (+ wheel spacers) the crusier can fit a 44"...not smart on the stock components, but don't mean it can't be done.
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Beleve it or not. When i flexed it in the second pic me and another person crawled up under it and the rear tires Had aprox 1 inch of clearaNCE TILL TOP OF WHEELWELL SAME WITH INNER FENDER liner. The fronts in pic 4 the little white spot button corner of the fender closest to the wheel is where it rubed. Yes eventualy ima throw a dakar lift on it and get some more clearance. But with it sitting on the bumbstops i honestly didnt rub. Also remember im running a 10/50 not a 12/50
I think that has alot to do with me not rubbing that bad. Also the boy said he thinks the rims are 3 and a3/4 backspaceing but wasnt shore. I no that the outside of the tread is exactly where my 32 11/50s sat so the rims definitly put the tire out alittler further.
Im just so stoked about not haveing any issues and bein able to wheel it till i get my lift.
I figure if the big fxxxing hammer dont fix the fender the sawzall will. Also i been considering not lifting it till i start haveing the rub issues due to helping keep the center of gravity as low as possible
Remeber we only lift our trucks so we can run a larger tire on them lol
I think that has alot to do with me not rubbing that bad. Also the boy said he thinks the rims are 3 and a3/4 backspaceing but wasnt shore. I no that the outside of the tread is exactly where my 32 11/50s sat so the rims definitly put the tire out alittler further.
Im just so stoked about not haveing any issues and bein able to wheel it till i get my lift.
I figure if the big fxxxing hammer dont fix the fender the sawzall will. Also i been considering not lifting it till i start haveing the rub issues due to helping keep the center of gravity as low as possible
Remeber we only lift our trucks so we can run a larger tire on them lol
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O i forgot as far as i no that shackles are stock the whole truck stock. I havent done nothing but tuneups ooilchanges rear pinion seal after slaping a rock and a valve adjustment.
MDH33 said:
no matter how much spring lift he has, when it's flexed to the bumpstops, the amount of tire stuffed in those wheelarches is the same, it'll rub all the same spots, lifted or not
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bad_religion_au said:no matter how much spring lift he has, when it's flexed to the bumpstops, the amount of tire stuffed in those wheelarches is the same, it'll rub all the same spots, lifted or not
yepers
Im sorta thinking of ordering omes addaleafs and stick the min the stock spring pack just for alittle firmer ride. Onlyreason im even considering the dakar lift is to raise the trans skid plate up higher so im less likely to high center.
But otherwise how does everyone think it did in the pics?
for bein stock on 34s how would u rate the flex of it.
Has anyone ran airshocks on there 60 or 62 yet? I been considering them also for the rear to help keep it from saggin whel loaded
with a lift i rub my 33x12.5s in the front. ive gotten the rear to rub just a tiny bit. they dont rub on the top they rub on the side of the wheel well.
the way you have your truck flexed doesnt really show real world wheelin though. when you have your back left tire up on a hill and front right tire on a hill and a tire off the ground then you will have flexed it all the way out. i can flex it same as yours and not have any rubbing but when wheelin it hard it rubs hard. ive taken chunks out of my front tires from the bolt on the front fenders. also when your flexing you have to think about turning. when you turn a lot of the time you will hve clearence issues.
personally i would rather have slightly smaller tires and more flex. ive come into way more situations where i needed the flex more than i need the clearence under the axles. yes ive drug my axles and my skids and rockers but i never wished i had bigger tires. i can get down the same trails as my 35 friends no problem just because i have the flex.
the way you have your truck flexed doesnt really show real world wheelin though. when you have your back left tire up on a hill and front right tire on a hill and a tire off the ground then you will have flexed it all the way out. i can flex it same as yours and not have any rubbing but when wheelin it hard it rubs hard. ive taken chunks out of my front tires from the bolt on the front fenders. also when your flexing you have to think about turning. when you turn a lot of the time you will hve clearence issues.
personally i would rather have slightly smaller tires and more flex. ive come into way more situations where i needed the flex more than i need the clearence under the axles. yes ive drug my axles and my skids and rockers but i never wished i had bigger tires. i can get down the same trails as my 35 friends no problem just because i have the flex.
I would be careful especially on downhills, you come off a ledge with the wheel turned wrong somethings gonna give, and its probably gonna be sheetmetal.
I pulled the bolt from the front of the fender so it wouldnt take chunks out of my meats, its not really necessary to hold everything together.
If moneys short i bet you could to a body lift and trim it and be fine all around (maybe, if not shackles would do it.)
Matt
I pulled the bolt from the front of the fender so it wouldnt take chunks out of my meats, its not really necessary to hold everything together.
If moneys short i bet you could to a body lift and trim it and be fine all around (maybe, if not shackles would do it.)
Matt
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Im saying we had it in a couple difrent situations .I appreciate everything on where to look for rubbage. But we identified exactly where its rubbing. And im gonna be either removeing the bottom bolt that does hit the tire. And im gonna try useing the BFH on the inner fender and if that dont work ima kick the sawzall out and do alittle trimming. trucks for wheeling and traveling not pimping!
I would say yes i need more lift for clearance and imshore the stock springs arent the best for flex. but im able to stuff the wheel front or rear all the way up to the BUMBSTOPS. Also when i flexed it I turned the steering wheel left and right lock to lock.And there was no other places it rubed. The boy said he thinks the rims were 3.75 backspaceing i duno but they seem to stick out further then the Stock rims did. that were on there. And they are also a 10/50 not a 12/50
Im just currious why everyone keeps compareing My 34 10/50s to a 33 12/50. Aint no way i think i could get my 33 inch 12/50 trxs MTs on it that i have on my jeep . They would rub crazylike.
I also understand you all probly dont beleve thats the only rub spot but its true.
I look forward to wheeling with some of you guys on the next GWNF trip.
I would say yes i need more lift for clearance and imshore the stock springs arent the best for flex. but im able to stuff the wheel front or rear all the way up to the BUMBSTOPS. Also when i flexed it I turned the steering wheel left and right lock to lock.And there was no other places it rubed. The boy said he thinks the rims were 3.75 backspaceing i duno but they seem to stick out further then the Stock rims did. that were on there. And they are also a 10/50 not a 12/50
Im just currious why everyone keeps compareing My 34 10/50s to a 33 12/50. Aint no way i think i could get my 33 inch 12/50 trxs MTs on it that i have on my jeep . They would rub crazylike.
I also understand you all probly dont beleve thats the only rub spot but its true.
I look forward to wheeling with some of you guys on the next GWNF trip.
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Hey orange did i wheel with you couple weeks ago at GWNF?
Nope, i think youre thinking of a blue cruiser right? There are a couple 60's in blacksburg, couple of the owners are on mud too. Mine is a white 62.
Matt
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bad_religion_au said:no matter how much spring lift he has, when it's flexed to the bumpstops, the amount of tire stuffed in those wheelarches is the same, it'll rub all the same spots, lifted or not
Yeah it was the blue one.
Trust me im amazed as much as you guys are that i stuck 34 10/50s on my truck without a lift shackles or bodylift . And im only haveing the same issues that other people are with lift kits with a 12/50 tire. Im gonna go play with it this week once i take care of the rubbing im getting on the front fenders and if everything clears rightShould be good.
Now other then rub issues i was wondering what other reasons you all recomend a lift kit
1 i no the factory springs will start saggin more then they are eventualy
2 I beleve a dakar lift would give more flex but will addaleafs give more flex or just give a slightly firmer ride and maybe a hair of lift. I Dont think they will add anymore flex or am i wrong?
3 shackles dont they lead toa wholeother area of issues caster changes any other things that shackles afect?
4 what about airshocks anyone tried them on a cruiser yet?
5 airlift 1000 or 2000 lbs airbags how would they do on a stock cruiser flexed out rip in half or you think they would stretch enuf
ide like alittke more load capacity and not as much lean in turns i no a lift would help but money tight as things are.
Bodylift. I tried takeing a shock bolt off and it snaped im not tuching them body mounts
Hell i need to replace my master cylender and im afraid the lines are gonna snap. Every couple days i spray them with something to help break it lose.
No the truck aint a rust bucket but i do live east coast and salt does it tolls on bolts and nuts.
stock backspacing is 3.5 and if you have 3.75 it would actually put your tire a quarter inch closer to the body. i have 3.25 which pushed the wheels out a quarter inch. i believe you dont have the rubbing. with the skinny tall tires and the tires set slightly in they probably fit in the wheel wells way better than a 12.5 tire. also since i have lift springs and you dont my tire has to go further up and at a harder angle which i believe makes it rub on the side of my rear wheel wells.
on thursday i am actually removing the bolt on the front fender, and putting longer shackles on. yes longer shackles can create caster issues. when i bought my longer shackles i also bought shims and longer spring pins so i dont have any caster issues. i think longer shackles can increase flex but im not totally sure of that.
its funny that you said you snapped a shock bolt off because i also snapped one off. the other three had no issues but of course i sprayed the crap put of them with pb blaster.
on thursday i am actually removing the bolt on the front fender, and putting longer shackles on. yes longer shackles can create caster issues. when i bought my longer shackles i also bought shims and longer spring pins so i dont have any caster issues. i think longer shackles can increase flex but im not totally sure of that.
its funny that you said you snapped a shock bolt off because i also snapped one off. the other three had no issues but of course i sprayed the crap put of them with pb blaster.