Longer wheel studs

[ntsqd]

Longer Front wheel studs

I started a thread about this in the 60 forum, but I don't know how many may have seen it. A search at the LAPS has turned up no options - longer or not. Since the head shape of these Mini/60 studs are unusual I've started looking into what it would cost to have ARP make some.
Those willing to go to one of the Moroso studs won't be interested as that option is likely lower priced. They don't have the same head configuration as stock, and they result in two different lug nut threads unless the rear is also converted. I'm inclined to think that Toyota had a reason for the way they made them and would prefer to keep that design.

If you have interest please post in this thread:

https://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/278894-longer-wheel-studs.html

 

[cruiser88]

Take your current stud and go into napa and compare........... then get a longer one. That is what I did to my 62 Heck I have Ford ones in the front of my mini now.....tapped right in

 

[ntsqd]

Have done that at both NAPA and Carquest. Such a stud does not exist in their parts books. We've been thru them now a couple of times at Carquest and once at NAPA.
Though I easily can I'm not looking to modify anything, or to have different lug nuts front to rear. I'm looking for a stud that fits as Toyota intended them to fit, and be longer in the threads.

 

[cruiser88]

Ahh I must have gotton lucky. This Napa sells alot of heavy truck parts however they had shelf after shelf of studs. I remember it took me a good 30 minutes to fnd them.


The ones I put on the mini are not not longer but a exsact fit. I am finding more and more Ford stuff that work on minis..lol just odd s*** like brake lines etc.

Have done that at both NAPA and Carquest. Such a stud does not exist in their parts books. We've been thru them now a couple of times at Carquest and once at NAPA.
Though I easily can I'm not looking to modify anything, or to have different lug nuts front to rear. I'm looking for a stud that fits as Toyota intended them to fit, and be longer in the threads.

 

[pappy]

I can't remember if the fronts are different than the rear. Which are you looking for?

The longer of the two is Toyota 90942-02079.

 

[ntsqd]

Neither of those will work in the front. The other thread has a pdf drawing of a front stud.

 

[dallen341]

Try here?

Lug Nuts Wheel Adapters Spacers Lug Bolts

 

[ntsqd]

Guys, have a look at the pdf and you'll see why these are a challenge. The shoulder arrangement is unusual and as best as I've been able to determine this design has only ever been used in this application. I've not yet even found any that were similar, but with different dimensions.

 

[ntsqd]

BTT, if interested in longer stock type wheel studs have a look at the 60's forum thread.

 

[toy4xfun]

why do you want longer studs?
what is wrong with the size Toyota put on the truck?

 

[ntsqd]

The stock stud length does not have sufficient thread engagement when using aftermarket alloy wheels. Steel wheels are no problem.

 

[toy4xfun]

you might want to get different lugs, the ones that are made for alloy wheels they have a shoulder that slips down beyond the face of the wheel.
no time to find one and take a pic now, but will do and post it up tomorrow.

 

[cruiser88]

sometimes there is a need for longer studs........trust me

you might want to get different lugs, the ones that are made for alloy wheels they have a shoulder that slips down beyond the face of the wheel.
no time to find one and take a pic now, but will do and post it up tomorrow.

 

[ntsqd]

Both sets of alloys that I have, as well as those that I've seen being sold currently do not use the old style of aluminum wheel lug nut. They are tapered seats just like steel wheels. Any lug nut that might have the taper and then a portion to stick down further into the wheel would have such a thin wall in that section that it would be pointless.
I've debated spot-facing the taper deeper, but the added depth would directly reduce the strength of the wheel centers.

 

[pappy]

you might want to get different lugs, the ones that are made for alloy wheels they have a shoulder that slips down beyond the face of the wheel.
no time to find one and take a pic now, but will do and post it up tomorrow.

Not all of them do. My AR don't.

 

[toy4xfun]

very true pappy, but if he does not have enough stud for the acorns i am assuming he needs that type.
and if he does and uses the acorns it is possible he could loose a wheel.

 

[toy4xfun]

here is a pic of a toyota dual purpose lug nut.
it has both acorn and shoulder, it is used on stock allow rims, it is off of a 1990, the truck had a steel spare.

 

[ntsqd]

Neither set of my wheels use anything but a typical 'acorn' type lug nut. That is what came on the 60 holding it's Enkei's on, and that is what the tire & wheel shop supplied for Eagle's on the Mini. Neither wheel set has a large enough set of lug holes to use the old style of mag wheel lug nut, and neither wheel is hub-centric so a flat-faced lug nut wouldn't work either.

In a 12mm wheel stud I have about 9.5mm worth of the thread engagement per nut. That's not even 80% of one thread diameter!

 

[Chop Shop]

I have never replaced the studs on a toyota. There are so many other things to do before worring about studs.

Better spend more on studs than a pair of normal wheels.

 

[ntsqd]

I'm not sure what you're saying here. That I should just fork over the $900-$1000 that ARP quoted me for making the 48 studs ?

I'm reluctantly open to the idea of using a 1/2-20 aftermarket wheel stud if someone can find one with a shoulder that isn't about 7/16" shorter than the OE stud's shoulder. The aftermarket stud with the longest shoulder in a suitable OD that I've found thus far has a shoulder length of ~0.900" The OE stud has a shoulder length of 1.344"