Long range fuel tanks

[VidereStudios]

FWIW, the rest of the world 03-07 100's have their charcoal canister up front. The 'above the spare tire' canister seems to be specific to North America.

That is good to know! Thanks hoser. That means that I'll have to more extensively modify the dual filler neck to route around the charcoal canister for the later years.

Does that mean one could successfully relocate it to the front using parts from the rest of the world without issues?

My guess is that it would be possible. Someone would have to compare the two different versions to see exactly what is different (besides size and shape). Hmm...

The AUS market canister is much different and lacking the sensors required by NA spec 100's. But it might be possible to use the NA spec 98-02 canister up front and reroute the lines. I'm not sure the '03+ canister would fit in the engine bay. It appears larger than the 98-02.

The NA 200 faces the same issues. DTT255 successfully relocated his canister. Not too much info though...
47 Gallon Long Ranger Aux Tank installation USA 200 series...

Yeah, I don't think the '03+ canister would fit real well up front. It is significantly bigger than the '98-'02 canister. But maybe substituting the older version could work...

 

[crimsonaudio]

Yeah, I don't think the '03+ canister would fit real well up front. It is significantly bigger than the '98-'02 canister. But maybe substituting the older version could work...

I think the older canisters lack some of the sensors the newer canisters have, so this would most likely result in CELs like crazy.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Just heard back that the dual-filler neck is the same part number from 1998 until 2005.

 

[ChuckB]

I appreciate everyone's work on this project. Having an '04 I would love to have any extended range tank. I don't mind the mpgs of the 100, but the (lack of) range is somewhat annoying even on regular road trips.

 

[VidereStudios]

I think the older canisters lack some of the sensors the newer canisters have, so this would most likely result in CELs like crazy.

Good to know...that is what I was figuring.

Just heard back that the dual-filler neck is the same part number from 1998 until 2005.

Alright, so the dual filler neck will have to be modified extensively to work on the '03+ rigs. I'll have to work on that separately. I may have to get some measurements pulled on the charcoal canister location in the later version...I'll let you guys know if and what I need.

I appreciate everyone's work on this project. Having an '04 I would love to have any extended range tank. I don't mind the mpgs of the 100, but the (lack of) range is somewhat annoying even on regular road trips.

Yeah, I hear you. This has been a slow project but one that will be oh so useful. More developments coming soon!

 

[ScubaJon]

Sorry I did not notice this reply. If you want to shoot me the drawings I can get you a solid price on doing it. Although Without several expensive tests it would have to be sold as a water storage tank and not a fuel tank.

Are you still interested in doing this? I would be open to sending you several drawings that would show the tank and not to exceed measurements as well as the location for bungs for the hoses. While the initial outlay is high (for the mold), the price of each polyurethane tank would definitely be a huge savings for people over a fabricated SS tank. Finding a welder who could TIG weld these together without charging an arm and a leg has proven difficult.

 

[cboyd]

I'm down for water storage! This has become more a focus for me for the way we use our rig.

 

[cainventure]

any word on this thread, rookie question why does the canister play such a role in the long range tank. I want to make a gravity feed tank to make it easy. I have the FSM for an 2006 if anyone needs any diagrams.

 

[VidereStudios]

On the 1998 to 2002 100 series Land Cruisers, the charcoal canister was under the hood next to the motor. In 2003, it was moved up above the spare tire just behind the rear axle. It is in an awkward place that affects the routing of a dual filler pipe as well as requiring a bigger void cut out of the subtank to accommodate the charcoal canister. Nothing super difficult to deal with, but just a time consuming thing to finesse the dual filler pipe and creating a new prototype for the subtank to make sure it works. I am hoping to make lots of progress on this over the winter...

 

[cainventure]

@VidereStudios is your plan to have the sub tank use a pump to fill the other tank when it's low. or do you think creating a gravity fed tank is possible. or the sub pump is the way to go?

 

[crimsonaudio]

On the 1998 to 2002 100 series Land Cruisers, the charcoal canister was under the hood next to the motor. In 2003, it was moved up above the spare tire just behind the rear axle. It is in an awkward place that affects the routing of a dual filler pipe as well as requiring a bigger void cut out of the subtank to accommodate the charcoal canister. Nothing super difficult to deal with, but just a time consuming thing to finesse the dual filler pipe and creating a new prototype for the subtank to make sure it works. I am hoping to make lots of progress on this over the winter...

Any idea as to whether the sub-tank has to be below the charcoal canister in order to avoid flooding it?

 

[Claws]

Great updates. My interest lies primarily in a level with the frame option. Be it 20 gallons or whatever. My reasoning is twofold. One, I feel that with a bumper/tire carrier/whatever we are already pushing the weight limits of the frame on the back of these trucks (search for bent frame). Adding 45 gallons of fuel to the mix seems a recipe for both poor handling and potential for unintended stresses. Reason two is cosmetics/departure angle. I could live with a 1-2" drop below the frame potentially but would prefer flush. 4-6" or more would be a deal breaker for me. I also would want this to be as integrated and plug and play as possible. As with other aftermarket accessories, I've found that when all the miscellaneous hardware and parts/pieces are supplied, the headaches saved outweigh the added cost.

As for specifics. Stainless, dual filler neck and a overbuilt bottom pan would be my preferences. If you are between 6 and 12 gauge I would go 6 regardless of capacity or the bottom of the tank.

I am in Australia and have a 2003 HDJ100. I have a Longranger 180 litre ( 48 US Gallons ) aux fuel tank fitted along with a Kaymar rear tyre carrier, I tow a 2 1/2 ton caravan with a ball weight of 300kg and I can assure you the car handles brilliantly with that weight. I do have a 2" lift with Bilstein shocks, heavy duty rear coils and airbags.

My tank hangs below the chassis but is in line with the bottom of my towbar so departure angles are not affected by the fitment of the tank. I have scraped over quite a lot of ground and rocks with very little damage to the tank (scrape marks and a few minor dents). The 100 is used primarily as a tourer towing our caravan but we still use it on remote tracks out west and have done medium core 4wd in it, I have a modified 80 series for hard core 4wd.

aux tank 1

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aux tank 2

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aux tank 3

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[PhrogsPhorever]

So, aside fron the aux tank, whatabout the Longranger main tank? They make a 150L replacement for the UZJ-100

Toyota Landcruiser UZJ100 150L Replacement

 

[hoser]

Probably fine for a touring cruiser... but the ground clearance loss isn't trivial.....

 

[PhrogsPhorever]

Yeah, would be good for an expo rig where you wouldn't see hardcore wheeling. They used to only do the diesel tanks, just thought it was interesting they do one for the UZJ100 now.

Just looking to see if anybody had actually bought one in the US and their opinions Granted it only gives you another 15 gallons, so I can throw 3 jerry cans on a rear carrier and have the same juice. But, for expo it would be nice to have 40 gallons internal plus whatever you carry in cans

 

[SNLC]

I heard there is a vendor who will be offering long range tanks for the 100 come March of this year. Maybe they already posted in this thread, I didn't read it all. I am not naming the vendor, they can do that when they are ready. It may also be an aux fuel tank rather than a LRT.

Cheers

 

[SHREDwagon]

Probably fine for a touring cruiser... but the ground clearance loss isn't trivial.....

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A 1" body lift will decrease this. My Longranger replacement sits ~ flush with the Slee skidplate. The other benefit of the replacement is that the weight sits between the axles - not off the rear.

 

[PhrogsPhorever]

A 1" body lift will decrease this. My Longranger replacement sits ~ flush with the Slee skidplate. The other benefit of the replacement is that the weight sits between the axles - not off the rear.

If you get a chance, can you post a pic?

 

[CreasyBear]

I'm sure it has happened, but has any member asked a shop overseas to do a group buy and a bulk shipment? Its my understanding that the shipping is what really makes this cost prohibitive. Maybe if we can get 10 or so members onboard we can share the cost and get some tanks.

 

[ih8everything]

I recently got a quote for the 180 liter replacement tank. $1300AUD for the tank and $500AUD shipping to Port of Oakland. So in USD that's about $1300 total.