Pura Vida
What an absolute noob
Idk if it is factory or not, I thought they were aftermarket, but I have the exact same holes you do
Let me introduce Phred, my 1973 FJ40.
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@Skreddy If the stick says TOYOTA MOTOR maybe it's a rare OEM tool? Mine doesn't have one....
No this one wasn't in Rockford. It was about 40 miles southeast of Oakesdale...in Moscow ID. Here's a screenshot from Google Earth from 2013. The neighbor said that when he moved in 27 years ago the Land Cruiser was sitting in the same place....and those two pallets of pavers were there too!
No this one wasn't in Rockford. It was about 40 miles southeast of Oakesdale...in Moscow ID. Here's a screenshot from Google Earth from 2013. The neighbor said that when he moved in 27 years ago the Land Cruiser was sitting in the same place....and those two pallets of pavers were there too!
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Pura Vida
What an absolute noob
Crazy it sat for so long and it is so low rust@Skreddy If the stick says TOYOTA MOTOR maybe it's a rare OEM tool? Mine doesn't have one....
No this one wasn't in Rockford. It was about 70 miles southeast in Moscow ID. Here's a screenshot from Google Earth from 2013. The neighbor said that when he moved in 27 years ago the Land Cruiser was sitting in the same place....and those two pallets of pavers were there too!
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@Pura Vida So those MUST be factory!? What's the chance that we both have the exact same asymmetrical holes? I'm sure someone knows what they're for. @Living in the Past ??
Skreddy
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Looks better than this one…. 22 years ago I knocked on the door for the first time and was told “it’s getting restored this winter”. I ended up being his neighbor for 10 years and this was 1 month ago.
Skreddy
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I think the holes are for other market items? I bought a new bumper from Toyota in 2020/21 and it had a dozen extra holes.
Living in the Past
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Two holes closer to the bib on the right side are for the license plate bracket. Two together on the left are for the bracket to use as a guide for the rod to hand crack the engine. The two separate holes are for the factory PTO winch. Outside the frame there is matching hole on each side. These are for the factory fog lights. The two other hole on the right side are for the license plate bracket when a PTO winch is installed. Could possibly be two extra hole on the bottom right side out of the frame. These would be for different license plate bracket when a winch and fog lights were installed.
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I know...right? I couldn't believe my eyes when I walked around to check out the back and there wasn't any rust under the rear doors. The only rust I've found is where the clutch master cylinder leaked onto the footboard around the steering column....but its just light surface rust. I was going to use rust converter on it but after trying boiled linseed oil on the air cleaner housing I think I may just use a light coating of that and call it good.
The PO made aluminum shades for all the windows and hung them with little velcro squares. I'm sure that's why the interior/upholstery looks like new.
Living in the Past
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I've seen the later bumpers and not sure what they are all for. While never heard of being sold in the US late in the 40 series Toyota had their own electric winch which might explain a few of them.
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@Living in the Past THANKS! I figured you would know.
My factory license plate bracket is mounted in front of the passenger tire.
You just brought up a topic I am curious about. The PO said he really enjoyed adjusting the valves, and that an easy way to do it was to use the jack handle to turn over the engine. He remembered inserting the jack handle through the gap between the crossmember and the front bib into the crank pulley to roll the engine. Is he correct about the jack handle or is there another crank handle that I'm missing? I can't figure out how the jack handle would engage the crank pulley. (I have the factory handles secured under the rear passenger jump seat)...
My factory license plate bracket is mounted in front of the passenger tire.
You just brought up a topic I am curious about. The PO said he really enjoyed adjusting the valves, and that an easy way to do it was to use the jack handle to turn over the engine. He remembered inserting the jack handle through the gap between the crossmember and the front bib into the crank pulley to roll the engine. Is he correct about the jack handle or is there another crank handle that I'm missing? I can't figure out how the jack handle would engage the crank pulley. (I have the factory handles secured under the rear passenger jump seat)...
Living in the Past
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Never heard of a jack handle working. There is a special tool to start the engine, also used to lower the spare on the FJ55. Tool was dropped from US market early on in the FJ40. My 65 FJ45 still has the clips to hold the rod, but had a goofy spare tire hanger without a winch to lower and raise the spare tire. Rod is nothing that special. Can post a picture tomorrow but there are pictures already on mud. Search hand start in the 40 section.
Skreddy
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Not the jack handle but there is a special hand crank tool that goes between the bib and frame and fits into the claw nut on the crank. You can start it this way; much easier if you are properly tuned.
Especially if you have a Holley Sniper….
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@Green Bean That's clean. I'm assuming that is mounted on the rear fender well behind the driver's side seat? I looked last night (after I learned there was a separate engine crank handle) and didn't see one in mine, but I was mainly looking at the rear passenger fender well where the jack handles are mounted. Is yours factory and is it mounted in the factory location?
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Thanks! Definitely not factory but I thought it was a cool "modification." The jack rods are mounted on top of the passenger side fender, so I painted the engine crank yellow and mounted on the driver's side fender which is where I believe they were mounted on some non-USA spec vehicles.
Living in the Past
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Would have to check my 2/73 to see if the screws are there. Factory there were two clips on top of the fender well and one low. Low was horizontal not on the angle of the front side of the fender well. My FJ25 I sold a few years back the lower clip was on the mounted to outside of the tub. It was an early FST which had a CJ5 style side doors. 1/79 the jack was mount to the bracket behind the seat. Markets that still had the rod the lower clip was on the jack mount. The rod also came in two lengths.early were 850mm and later 1004mm.
Checked and the screws are still for the rod clips on my 73.
Plus the rods used to lower the spare carrier on long wheel base 40 and 55 series
Checked and the screws are still for the rod clips on my 73.
Plus the rods used to lower the spare carrier on long wheel base 40 and 55 series
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@Living in the Past Thanks for all that info. I'll be checking mine out when I get home tonight. It makes me think the PO must've had that crank handle or he wouldn't have described turning the engine by hand with it to adjust the valves. If its not in my FJ40 maybe he picked one up and has it sitting in his garage with the other stuff he hasn't located yet. Fingers crossed.......
Ironically, the hand crank will be a mute point once I get the 8274 installed since the winch will block the line to the crank. If I don't find the original crank I think I'll make a custom one that can be used with a 1/2" ratchet. It would be nice when adjusting the valves.
Ironically, the hand crank will be a mute point once I get the 8274 installed since the winch will block the line to the crank. If I don't find the original crank I think I'll make a custom one that can be used with a 1/2" ratchet. It would be nice when adjusting the valves.
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@Living in the Past OK so now that I've officially entered another rabbit hole......what do the factory clips look like that hold the engine crank handle? I'm assuming those are as easy to find as the dash map lights?
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@Living in the Past OK so now that I've officially entered another rabbit hole......what do the factory clips look like that hold the engine crank handle? I'm assuming those are as easy to find as the dash map lights?
Never seen the clips in a 40 series and that includes the 61 FJ40 I have. The clips are larger than the ones used to hold the rod for the jack. I know I have some clips for the larger rod somewhere. These are actually harder to find than the map lights. Those were fairly easy at one time. I would like to find the rod holder for the late 40 series. 79+ the tool kit was under the passenger jump seat and jack handle rods under the drivers side jump seat. There is a style of clips that stacked the rods with the starting rod on top. Will have to be sourced out of another market.
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I checked and mine has the screws for the clips. I don't think I'd have an issue making the crank rod itself but the clips might be a challenge. I'm going to see if I can find clips from another source that would work and look correct, but I'm sure it won't be easy.
Its crazy that I started this thread to get an opinion on mounting a winch and now I'm down a rabbit hole for tiny clips that are nearly impossible to find....and I didn't even know existed until two days ago. I guess that's part of the fun.....
Its crazy that I started this thread to get an opinion on mounting a winch and now I'm down a rabbit hole for tiny clips that are nearly impossible to find....and I didn't even know existed until two days ago. I guess that's part of the fun.....
