Events/Trails LCDC 2019 - 5th Anniversary

[Fred X]

I thought several were suggesting a portable ham radio?

If you've got a license (easy to get nowadays), the BaoFeng units available on Amazon are super-cheap. I don't have personal experience with them, but a few friends got 'em and they seemed to work fine. I'm a long-time ham radio guy, with some more expensive radios, but a BaoFeng should be fine for starters. And there's plenty of time to get your license between now and the LCDC!

Hope this helps,

- Fred

 

[Ninja Cruiser100]

If you've got a license (easy to get nowadays), the BaoFeng units available on Amazon are super-cheap. I don't have personal experience with them, but a few friends got 'em and they seemed to work fine. I'm a long-time ham radio guy, with some more expensive radios, but a BaoFeng should be fine for starters. And there's plenty of time to get your license between now and the LCDC!

Hope this helps,

- Fred

Thanks Fred. I am going to try to get my license. If I don’t I can still listen in can’t I?

 

[Fred X]

Thanks Fred. I am going to try to get my license. If I don’t I can still listen in can’t I?

Of course. The chatter can be quite entertaining!

All that said, we participants should be aware that the Kendall Mountain repeater will be rather occupied from early Saturday morning through Sunday morning for this:

Silverton Ultra Marathon

I doubt it will affect LCDC comms at all, but it's good to be aware of planned repeater traffic...

I'm helping with that event in Silverton, so I'll bow out from the LCDC Friday afternoon. Gonna be fun!

 

[codyaustin5]

Yea, I grabbed a set of those, though I have no idea what I'm doing with them either.
I know theres a wait-list, but I have confirmation through eventbrite, so I'm good right? Seeing everyone else question this has me paranoid as well.

Yes if you got the Eventbrite confirmation you are in!

 

[Terry Ivanov]

OK, so two way CB radio will work or you guys suggest ham radio?

 

[BTUMAN]

There are a few Apps to use to study. Really easy to study and they have sample tests. I think I paid like $3 for the app. Usually test sites are Sat at local fire houses etc. I use this $100/set Baofang and they work great. I wired mine to an external antenna and permanent power and I have 8 watt in cruiser and one spare. Not required but easy.

 

[KenB]

There are a few Apps to use to study. Really easy to study and they have sample tests.

I passed my Technician amateur radio test last Thursday in preparation for the LCDC event. Get the test prep app and give it a try. That’s how I did it. If you have any friends that are into amateur radio most will be glad to help.

 

[ethernectar]

OK, so two way CB radio will work or you guys suggest ham radio?

If you don't have HAM, pick up a pair of FRS/GMRS walkie-talkies. They'll likely be more prevalent (and cleaner sound) than CB. Some of us will likely have loaners as well.

 

[Romer]

FWIW I am leading two runs and have HAM. Just say'in

 

[Terry Ivanov]

If you don't have HAM, pick up a pair of FRS/GMRS walkie-talkies. They'll likely be more prevalent (and cleaner sound) than CB. Some of us will likely have loaners as well.

10-4

 

[indycole]

Once June rolls around we'll start sharing more details about signing up for trails and the overall logistics of the event. Feel free to PM me or email info@200lcdc.com if you're unsure as to whether you're on the waitlist or registered as a driver.

We don't have any official rule about trail communications and thus it's left up to the leader. There's definitely still time to get a ham license before the event and I highly recommend getting a license for many reasons. That said, we totally understand that not everyone will have the time or inclination to do that.

To cover your bases, I personally recommend having an FRS/GMRS two-way radio and at least a cheap handheld ham. Anyone can listen on ham but you can only transmit if you have a license. It gets kinda chaotic simultaneously leading and broadcasting on both FRS and ham.

 

[Union]

You probably already thought of this but when we signup for the trail, it'd be cool to see who's leading it and what primary comms device they're going to use.

 

[indycole]

You probably already thought of this but when we signup for the trail, it'd be cool to see who's leading it and what primary comms device they're going to use.

That's the plan!

 

[codyaustin5]

LCDC 5th Anniversary is right around the corner and we have officially finalized our sponsors. Our final sponsor this year is Toyota!

Toyota joined us year 3 in Breckenridge and was definitely a highlight of the event. They'll have special Toyota swag and a representative joining us which we'll do a similar Q&A.

Cole and I will be sending more details via email regarding dates, times and locations. The event will officially kickoff with a friends and family BBQ sponsored by Elite Land Cruisers and @Cruiser Corps

 

[linuxgod]

If Dave is coming back I'll be sure to re-ask the 300-series question

In all seriousness though, Toyota should bring a crew and film some of the 200-series action for promo. What a better way to get people excited about their flagship vehicle?

 

[gomez268]

LCDC 5th Anniversary is right around the corner and we have officially finalized our sponsors. Our final sponsor this year is Toyota!

Toyota joined us year 3 in Breckenridge and was definitely a highlight of the event. They'll have special Toyota swag and a representative joining us which we'll do a similar Q&A.

Cole and I will be sending more details via email regarding dates, times and locations. The event will officially kickoff with a friends and family BBQ sponsored by Elite Land Cruisers and @Cruiser Corps

Cant say this enough, but thank you guys for organizing and putting this together. It says a lot about your characters the amount of time and effort you guys put in to organize this event and not charge a dime. Thank you all for this.

 

[Ninja Cruiser100]

Fantastic job guys!

 

[mcgaskins]

LCDC 5th Anniversary is right around the corner and we have officially finalized our sponsors. Our final sponsor this year is Toyota!

Toyota joined us year 3 in Breckenridge and was definitely a highlight of the event. They'll have special Toyota swag and a representative joining us which we'll do a similar Q&A.

Cole and I will be sending more details via email regarding dates, times and locations. The event will officially kickoff with a friends and family BBQ sponsored by Elite Land Cruisers and @Cruiser Corps

It's great to see Toyota supporting this event. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think on a proportional basis the 200 series Land Cruiser gets built and wheeled more than just about anything on the road in the United States. People would immediately assume the Jeep Wrangler would earn that spot, but looking at the sales data is interesting.

Jeep sold 1.45M Wranglers from 2008-2017, whereas Toyota sold 28k 200s in the same time period. Including the wait list for LCDC, about a hundred 200 series want to show up and wheel their trucks in Ouray, most of which are built to some degree which means 0.36% of all 200s sold in the last decade in the US want to show up at this one single off road event. That would be analogous to over 5,100 JK Wranglers showing up to a single event. Just looking at the number of built trucks on this site shows, in my opinion, a fairly significant proportion of owners who modify their 200s. I would estimate at least 4% of 200s get built and/or wheeled (~1,100 trucks from 08-17), and that would mean proportionally speaking over 57,000 JKs would be required to get to the same proportion. I know there are a lot of built and wheeled JKs out there, but I think purely on a percent of ownership basis the Land Cruiser gets "used properly" more than Wranglers, 4runners, Tacomas, etc.

Now keep in mind this is 100% speculation, and I have no empirical evidence to support it. I started wheeling Jeeps when I was 16 and have owned and wheeled CJs, XJs, ZJs and a JKUR, and I've had a 100, 3 200s, and a Tacoma all of which were built and wheeled. I have found the 200 series community to be the among the most eager to build and wheel of them all, which is amazing when you consider how expensive the truck and the mods are. The community is also one of the most supportive and enjoyable I've been a part of, and that extends to even more clubs I've been involved with including Porsche, Audi, Ducati, Tesla, etc. The 200 enthusiast crowd is a great group of men and women, and I'm happy to see Toyota recognize that as well. I can't wait to see the 300 and hope it continues the tradition of what's made the 200 such a solid platform.

 

[Oakleyguy]

If Dave is coming back I'll be sure to re-ask the 300-series question

In all seriousness though, Toyota should bring a crew and film some of the 200-series action for promo. What a better way to get people excited about their flagship vehicle?

Guess I can finally stop asking about the Supra, time to double down on the 300 with LG!

 

[Markuson]

It's great to see Toyota supporting this event. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think on a proportional basis the 200 series Land Cruiser gets built and wheeled more than just about anything on the road in the United States. People would immediately assume the Jeep Wrangler would earn that spot, but looking at the sales data is interesting.

Jeep sold 1.45M Wranglers from 2008-2017, whereas Toyota sold 28k 200s in the same time period. Including the wait list for LCDC, about a hundred 200 series want to show up and wheel their trucks in Ouray, most of which are built to some degree which means 0.36% of all 200s sold in the last decade in the US want to show up at this one single off road event. That would be analogous to over 5,100 JK Wranglers showing up to a single event. Just looking at the number of built trucks on this site shows, in my opinion, a fairly significant proportion of owners who modify their 200s. I would estimate at least 4% of 200s get built and/or wheeled (~1,100 trucks from 08-17), and that would mean proportionally speaking over 57,000 JKs would be required to get to the same proportion. I know there are a lot of built and wheeled JKs out there, but I think purely on a percent of ownership basis the Land Cruiser gets "used properly" more than Wranglers, 4runners, Tacomas, etc.

Now keep in mind this is 100% speculation, and I have no empirical evidence to support it. I started wheeling Jeeps when I was 16 and have owned and wheeled CJs, XJs, ZJs and a JKUR, and I've had a 100, 3 200s, and a Tacoma all of which were built and wheeled. I have found the 200 series community to be the among the most eager to build and wheel of them all, which is amazing when you consider how expensive the truck and the mods are. The community is also one of the most supportive and enjoyable I've been a part of, and that extends to even more clubs I've been involved with including Porsche, Audi, Ducati, Tesla, etc. The 200 enthusiast crowd is a great group of men and women, and I'm happy to see Toyota recognize that as well. I can't wait to see the 300 and hope it continues the tradition of what's made the 200 such a solid platform.

This is a great little bit of number crunching, Matt!

I was having a very similar conversation about the percentages revolving around how many built & wheeled 200s there are compared to their tiny niche presence. I personally have had the long impression that the number of highly-modified-But-NEVER-wheeled % of poser Jerps is astronomically higher compared to 200’s. Sooo many massively-modified Jeeps on the road with nary a scratch nor even the tiniest indication of trail-induced crud or damage.

Your numbers are a great illustration of this.

I hypothesize that for those primarily seeking the “rugged IMAGE” ...the squared-off classic look of the Jeep draws in posers far more readily than the smooth lines of the LC. But for the few who actually recognize and appreciate the hidden capabilities of the newer LCs, there is a strong presence of actual wheelers beating trails with them as your numbers suggest.

The psychological aspects of poser vs. wheeler % q and it’s impact on vehicle selection I s fascinating to me.